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Friday, March 23, 2007

Now That’s Frat-errific!

posted by on March 23 at 12:42 PM

As Josh noted yesterday, the Weekly, under bitter ex-Maria Cantwell staffer Mike Seely, looooves to bag on Maria for being, you know, a bitch. Last week, it fell to Weekly newbie Aimee Curl to demonstrate, via staff turnover stats, that Maria deserves her bitchy reputation. Josh noted the Weekly didn’t compare Cantwell’s staff turnover to other offices; if they had, they would have found that Cantwell’s nine-person turnover isn’t much above the average for the state.

Well, guess what self-proclaimed frat boy Seely’s nickname for Cantwell was, according to a former SW staffer?


Yeah, nothing sexist (or personal) about that.

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That nickname is more telling of its creator than it is of Mrs. Cantwell.

The whole thing makes Mr. Seely sound like a baby. A difficult, irrational boss? Ka-razy! (We had a CEO of a small-but-successful company in here the other day bitching that there was no diet Red Bull amongst the morning meeting coffee and tea spread. These idiots are Par for the course.)

I don't even know if staff turnover is a great indicator anyhow - we usually don't know why people quit their jobs. Maybe working for her totally and absolutely sucks, or it could just be they hire the wrong people.

And when time comes for Mr. Seely to look for a new job - I mean, c'mon, how long do people stay at the Weekly? - that little whine-fest he published on his former employer is going to look great on his resume.

Posted by Dougsf | March 23, 2007 1:17 PM

Especially when the joke on her name writes itself:
"How does she do her job?"
"She can't, well."

I'm just sayin'.

I wish the whole idea that a candidate is qualified on the basis of how much you imagine you'd enjoy having a beer with them would just go away and die. Nobody ever implies that Winston Churchill wasn't a good leader because he was abrasive and really, really bossy.

Sadly, with Hillary's candidacy I'm sure we can look forward to two years of this sort of name-calling. jesus.

Posted by flamingbanjo | March 23, 2007 1:19 PM

C'mon! What else are you gonna call someone with the name Cantwell? It begs to be bastardized into Cuntwell.

Posted by Mike in MO | March 23, 2007 1:30 PM

Will she be played by Meryl Streep in the movie?

Posted by monkey | March 23, 2007 1:38 PM

Yeah, but while Winston Churchill may have been an SOB, it would have been totally awsome to have had a beer (or more likey a scotch) with him. Can't, well/Cuntwell is no Churchill, not by a long shot. Not as a politician, a leader, a personality, or a person. To compare them is laughable. When you have Churchill's stature, you also have earned certain privileges that you don't have if your a housewife who buys a Senate seat.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | March 23, 2007 1:38 PM

Hate to break it to you, Erica, but every workplace in the land is full of guys that create dumb sexist nicknames for their coworkers. It's not really a major news story, but you can still give yourself a medal if you want to.

Posted by Harsh Realm | March 23, 2007 1:39 PM

"Youre" an idiot.

Posted by Eric | March 23, 2007 1:41 PM

Is there an editor in the house?

Quoting an anonymous source to nail someone at a rival publication is really pretty lame.

The Muni League's going to get some fleas from climbing into bed with this dog.

Posted by Editor's note? | March 23, 2007 1:42 PM

"if your a housewife who buys a Senate seat."

WTF? "Vice president of marketing for Real Networks" = "housewife"?

Posted by tsm | March 23, 2007 1:42 PM

What's Erica's middle name? Just curious...

Posted by DOUG. | March 23, 2007 1:47 PM

I hope it's Carol.

Posted by Jason | March 23, 2007 1:48 PM

Amusingly, we never hear jokes about guys who do exactly the same thing.

Misogyny, thy name is DC.

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 23, 2007 1:52 PM

I much prefer politicians who are bitchy, that is more concerned with getting shit done than making people feel good about themselves. Fuck that shit. How many successful politicians waste their time coddling their staff?

Posted by keshmeshi | March 23, 2007 2:00 PM

Of course, YOU, Erica, you'd never do a thing like that, would you? You know, riff on someone's name? No, not you.

You're hell-bent on working for the stranger for the rest of your life, aren't you? Wow, $32K a year and no drug-testing! How posh

Posted by Stop | March 23, 2007 2:07 PM

had it not been for the two of you pointing fingers at the weekly, I would have read their article as a defense Cantwell.

Posted by really. enough. | March 23, 2007 2:23 PM

@9 Housewife trumps Vice president of marketing for anything. (What the hell do you have against housewives?) The only part of any large company that is more BS than Marketing is Sales. If you have ever worked for a large company, you know that.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | March 23, 2007 2:23 PM

To No. 12 - ever hear the word prick?

And as for cunt,Erica, run the name in the Stranger's search box, great reporter of rumor that you are. It appears to be the Stranger's pet word instead.

Posted by BadBrad | March 23, 2007 2:30 PM

Brad: It's not the use of the word, but the usage (woman=inherently bad; cunt=inherently insulting) that I object to.

Posted by ECB | March 23, 2007 2:43 PM

It's not the use of the word, it's the usage of the word? Que?

And when you call someone a cunt, this means women are inherently bad? So what does it mean when a man is called a prick, an asshole, a dick, etc? Wait--that middle one applies to both genders! So if use the term "asshole" I must hate all of humanity!

Posted by torrentprime | March 23, 2007 2:50 PM

t: Use=The fact that a word is used. Usage=the use of a word as an insult.And the use of cunt as an insult begins from the premise that women are inherently bad,and thus "cunt" is a major insult (and totally different, btw, than "prick" or asshole"), not the other way around.

Posted by ECB | March 23, 2007 2:57 PM



Seely assigned the story and well, the reporter couldn't quite get it. Probably cuz it's not much of a story. Which is exactly why I brought up the Baird stuff.

Basically: Seely is hung up on this one story idea based on his cutting edge analysis that Sen. Cantwell is a bitch. And he forced it on his new reporter, and it went nowhere. So, she did this meaningless story about... um... well, I don't know what it's about. Cantwell's a bitch/she isn't a bitch.

Posted by Josh Feit | March 23, 2007 3:36 PM

"Vice President of Marketing" is far ruder insult than "cunt". Even I've been called a cunt before, many times. But call me "VP Marketing" and you'll be picking your teeth up out of the gutter.

Posted by Fnarf | March 23, 2007 3:36 PM

Fnarf: We agree on something! (Must be Friday)

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | March 23, 2007 3:42 PM

Also, Senator Cantwell is no one's wife.

She helped start Real Networks so I believe she was more than just a cog in the marketing department.

She's no Churchill, but she's definitely earned her stripes. She's been a politician since she was 28 years old (interrupted by a stint as a corporate executive of a successful company). She must be doing something right.

I doubt she's sitting at home worried about name-calling.

Posted by dum | March 23, 2007 5:06 PM

I'm just happy we finally figured out with the C in Erica C. Barnett stands for

Posted by Mystery Solved | March 23, 2007 6:21 PM

Okay, I (and poster No. 1) gave her more credit than we should have.

She's not a house wife, she's an old maid.

(She must really be a cunt if she can't find a man to marry her.)

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | March 23, 2007 8:00 PM

Patty Murray doesn't think she's a bitch.

For some reason unknown to me and many others, Patty Murray considers her one of her best friends.

She obviously sees something that we don't.

Posted by Jen | March 23, 2007 8:42 PM

barnett, i'm usually on board with you, but come on--it's like making fun of cheney for being a dick. genitals aren't compliments in our society, regardless of the sex. perhaps seely is driven by sexism, and the name-calling is childish, but it's not inherently sexist. also, prick=penis, erica.

Posted by jesus | March 23, 2007 10:01 PM

Let's see, who's side should I pick, the dickhead frat boy or the negative prude?

I choose Fnarf.

Posted by Sean | March 24, 2007 10:20 AM


I'll raise eric's "idiot" and call you a "complete idiot".

Marketing and Sales may be BS in SOME large companies, but for those with actual products to sell they're two of the most important aspects of the operation, apart from fabrication of rhe product itself.

You can make a brilliant product, but if you don't have marketers letting potential purchasers know it exists, and people out in the field selling, you got nothing but a brilliant product that nobody knows about, and that nobody buys. The idea that a good product "sells itself" is both naive and ludicrous.

Certainly, marketing and sales can frequently convince people to buy a piece-of-crap product as well; the difference being that at some point customers will catch on and stop buying it.

Posted by COMTE | March 24, 2007 7:58 PM

Yawn. More potshots at the Weekly, this time via an anonymous source. Gutsy, hard-nosed journalism.

Posted by EatingCant | March 25, 2007 3:56 PM

Having dealt with Cantwell's press staff in 2000, including Seely then and since, never have I heard him use the term in question. Nor did any other media person employed before or after the election.
Quite the contrary, even under the worst pressure, respect was present even when affection was not. Maria works harder than anyone in her employ, and it is impossible not to acknowledge that fact.
The Stranger is capable of some first-rate reporting. Unfortunately, it can also be inaccurate and capable of pursuing feuds with whole-cloth inventions.
Dan, the snowboarding season is nearly over. It might be time to concentrate on controlling the behavior of your other kids.

Posted by hearstscribe | March 26, 2007 1:17 PM

Would that be the same former SW/Stranger writer that was a spy at the Seattle Weekly... just saying you shouldn't be one to judge.

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