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Wednesday, October 25, 2006

On Pregnancy and Sex

posted by on October 25 at 17:10 PM

I’ve stayed away from Charles’s post on “pregnant sex” (shorter version: sex with a pregnant woman is dishonest because the woman’s body has changed; thus sex with a pregnant woman is close to pity). Fortunately, one of my favorite bloggers, Amanda at Pandagon, has taken up the gauntlet:

From his Derbyshire-like insinuation that his unpopularity somehow bolsters his case that he’s right to suggesting that someone getting a Viagra-assisted hard-on and getting off and possibly taking a snooze is a bad ending, this paragraph is a work of genius. Yes, genius at horseshit, but genius is genius.

Well done, Mudede. I know this particular rabbit hole he’s plunging down all too well. Or versions of it—I’ve seen some bitter arguments over whether someone is still punk or a sell-out, and then there’s the perennial “lefter-than-thouā€¯ and “can feminists wear lipstickā€¯ insanities. But Mudede really does beat all in the authenticity obsession—affection, pregnancy, Viagra and who knows what else are all deeply dishonest threats to this Platonic ideal of authentic, unencumbered lust.

The more I turn Mudede’s points over and over in my head, the more I must reach the conclusion that by his very own cynical standards, there is no such thing as sexual desire. After excluding emotional reasons for lust (clearly, “honestā€¯ lust is all about your looks) and excluding anyone who claims they can feel physical desire for someone who doesn’t have “objectiveā€¯ good looks as defined by our entertainment industry and then excluding anyone who does have pure physical desire for standardly attractive bodies because we know their desire isn’t “honestā€¯ but a product of their environment, we are left to conclude there is no such thing as authentic sex.

Read the whole thing here.

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Oh gawd. Someone else calls Mudede a genius.
People, get this thru your heads: No matter the context, do not egg him on. And never, never call him a genius.

Posted by Frank N. Sense | October 25, 2006 5:22 PM

If people spent as much time arguing syntax as they do symantics, the world would be harder to read, but easier to live in.

Posted by Dougsf | October 25, 2006 6:33 PM

Its kind of like having sex with a pregnant woman. It's harder to get inside (I guess), but its easy to live in there (for multplying cells).

Posted by patrick C | October 25, 2006 7:00 PM

Fucking a pregnant women is like having a threesome for half the price and none of the pedophilia charges.

Anyways infusing stupid remarks with pseudo-intellectual bullshit does not make one a genius. In fact in makes one a moron, and a pretentious one at that.

Posted by Giffy | October 25, 2006 7:12 PM

I prefer precocious over pretentious, pal.

Posted by patrick C | October 25, 2006 7:46 PM


What if one's partner had a cancer growing inside them instead of being pregnant with a child? The body is producing a new life: the cancer. In the case of cancer, the body is not necessarily used up by the function of the cancer and you and your partner may be completely unaware of the cancer.


Posted by Jensen Interceptor | October 25, 2006 8:11 PM

Wow, I can't believe anyone would bother with a serious response to this nonsense.

Posted by Sean | October 25, 2006 11:51 PM

Charles has mastered the difficult art of intellectually elitist trolling. He is their Mozart.

Posted by Aexia | October 26, 2006 8:16 AM

aexia, this trolling business is the easy way out. the fact is, and a fact those in this office can verify, the ideas i post are often long ideas of mine. they are not new. some of these ideas push buttons; others clearly don't. and most of the ideas i really care about push no buttons at all (clearly very few people were offended by the fact that i think hancock's only important work is in the 60s, before he turned to that funky chicken music of the 70s).

all i ask of my readers is to recognize my range. if you call me a troll it is because that is all you can see in my work--meaning, it has more to do with your limitations than mine.

Posted by charles mudede | October 26, 2006 9:19 AM

"all i ask of my readers is to recognize my range. if you call me a troll it is because that is all you can see my work--meaning, it has more to do with your limitations than mine."

Bwahahahaha. OK then ... NOW I'm officially convinced that Charles is trolling.

Posted by soultaco | October 26, 2006 10:06 AM

i love this - that one post can generate so much discussion about so many things, and can last so long.

and i love wm stephen humphrey, whom i would french anytime, anywhere.

Posted by gforce | October 26, 2006 10:51 AM

not that that has anything to do with this subject, i'm just sayin.

Posted by gforce | October 26, 2006 10:53 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

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