The simple fact that he is only interested in attracting "white" gay boys is disburbing enough not to go to Sugar.

People wonder why we never get any new bars, or at least ones with staying power. It's because of crap like this.

I used to work with the bar owners when I volunteered for a non-profit, and I was employed at a bar for several years. The bars that have been around for a while were, by and large, easy to work with, and the owners were engaged in the community, and quite generous.

But a good chunk of the bars that have come and gone in recent years were owned by people who had no business running a business. They were either drunks or addicts or had a thing for a certain type, all to the detriment of their business. And all of them have failed.

I've never been to Sugar, and I have no real interest in going. I'm too old for that crowd, and most of my socializing is done outside the bar scene anymore. I hope they can work out their problems, but experience tells me that this is just another chapter in the drama of the bars.

I went to Sugar several times when LA Kendall was promoting. Aside from opening weekend, the place was never packed... in fact, far from it. Just because 500 people walk in the door on a given evening, when the club is open 6 PM to 3 or 4 AM, does NOT mean it's at capacity - it just means they showed up, looked around and left. The last weekend they were running things they even stopped the afterhours for lack of anyone sticking around that long. And if it was a "gay club", you could have fooled me. The place had the atmosphere of a high-school dance, complete with large packs of drunken sorority girls, straight couples, and suburbanites. The various times that we went, the music was invariably the same... bad. When the DJ plays the Dolly Parton song "9 to 5" or the Beastie Boys, it's time to go home. If you like that music, fine, but the atmoshpere created by the promoter and DJ's obviously wasn't working. They have done other monthly events like Comeback and Hot Mess that draw big crowds, but those crowds did not follow them here, and the circuit crowd definitely stayed away. I also have a hard time believing that the owner said "he was upset the clientele wasn’t younger, white, gay boys". It's more likely that he was upset that there was no clientele. And a point of clarification, Megan - it has not been " a couple of months" - their opening weekend was May 5th. They're making changes because the place was going to tank. It still may, but the promoter was the one who had primary responsibility for drawing the crowds.

"I also have a hard time believing that the owner said "he was upset the clientele wasn’t younger, white, gay boys"."

I believe it....check out www.isbadlandsbad.com

What does "circuty" mean?

See "circuit party"

shoulda called it fagbar...

Maybe the place is just cursed, is all. Clearly, the boxers who got kicked out of there some years back, prior to the first attempt to turn the place into a dance club, left some serious bad juju in the building.

"shoulda called it fagbar..."

Good lord, no. Unless the target demographic is suburban housewvies, because that'll attract them in droves.

"I believe it....check out www.isbadlandsbad.com"

This is not a Badlands issue - the bouncers were not keeping people of color out of the bar. In fact, on the multiple nights I went to Sugar, there were barely any people of color to be seen. In fact, there were barely any gay men to be seen. It looked more like a hoppin' night at Applebees.

I must concur that despite an impressive start, the place is disappointingly empty these days. Last night I tried to take a friend visiting from SF, but nobody was inside - just an empty flashing cube of beats - so we moved on.

I'd love Sugar to succeed, but that might be impossible.
Maybe it's the hex of 916 Pike St. Maybe it's the management.

The owner-attibuted quote that he wants to make it more "circuity" is a troubling sign. The things Capitol Hill's queer bar scene is slurping up are a mixed crowd and a somewhat gritty setting (Just look at Comeback, Lick, Hot Mess, etc.).

We just ain't a bunch of Toronto muscle boys who want to bump and grind to gay anthems. We're more like alcoholic hipsters with a penchant for kitschy grooves. The other statement that the place wants more young white boys is sad on many levels - not to mention racist. But not surprising. Sugar cubes are cookie-cutter little sweet things, like the allegedly desired clientele.

They must have missed the memo that Seattle's young, skinny white boy crowd usually only goes to house parties. Too bad for Sugar. That's a bitter pill to swallow.

"The things Capitol Hill's queer bar scene is slurping up are a mixed crowd and a somewhat gritty setting (Just look at Comeback, Lick, Hot Mess, etc.)"

That's who was running this place for the past month - same promoter, same djs, same music. And a big, empty dancefloor. As someone who likes to "bump and grind to gay anthems" and enjoys a night out with other gay boys, hearing djs like Brian Gorr at Sugar (last Saturday and tomorrow night, 6/3) is a refreshing change from the tired top-40 of Neighbours and the ultra-tired Comeback sound.

And I can only conclude that Kendall's comment about the owners wanting more "white boys" is a desparate parting attempt to trash this place. Anytime I've ever been to Comeback or Hot Mess I've seen nothing but skinny young white boys. Somehow though they didn't follow her to Sugar.

Her formula failed - move on.

On the first Thursday that place was open, as I walked down from Purr to Neighbours, I stopped outside of Sugar and peeked inside. After hearing the music, seeing the super white lighting, and asking the doorman say how much cover was going to be on Thurs/Fri/Sat, I predicted the place would be out of business in 6 months. Last night the place was shuttered by 1am. I might have been too generous with my prediction. I applaud them for trying to be different, but they picked the wrong kind of different. There are just too many places in that area where you can dance/drink for less money and not get a migrane from the lighting.

Young white gay men are the oppressors, and it's sad to hear a racist club owner could try to turn a Capitol Hill establishment into a arian Hitler Youth rally. We don't need young gay white men on Capitol Hill ruining our community. Let's start a boycott of this business and show him what Capitol Hill community really means. Most young gay white men are no better than racist Nazis.

Many young gay white men are racist. No Capitol Hill business owner should be allowed to promote a racist gathering place. Since when does a gay dance club have to play music that young white gay men enjoy?

Let's get the word out about the rampant racism here and ruin this guy's business.

Z bois, lets get the word out. Nobody set foot in this place, and he'll go under. He should no better than to piss off Z bois who read The Stranger.

"Maybe the place is just cursed, is all. Clearly, the boxers who got kicked out of there some years back, prior to the first attempt to turn the place into a dance club, left some serious bad juju in the building."

The Easy was quite successful in that space, especially when they annexed the old convenience storefront next door for the dance area. They only closed because they were bought out. Maybe the space is cursed because Seattle doesn't need ANY more boy bars like it needs another girl bar....

Dominic Holden said:
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They must have missed the memo that Seattle's young, skinny white boy crowd usually only goes to house parties. Too bad for Sugar. That's a bitter pill to swallow.
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Hey Dominic, weren't you supposed to be the alternative to this:

sour-ass bitches who are always venting and hating on everything.

Dominic, please make sure you Cc: your enlightening memo to Dan "it's all about skinny white boys" Savage.

Megan -

Another bang-up job of the type of half-assed reporting the Stranger has become known for! You wrote in your entry:

“So I set him down and I had a meeting. He started bringing up that he was upset the clientele wasn’t younger, white, gay boys and he was also expressing concern about not making enough money."

Did it ever occur to you that Kendall maybe had a reason to trash the owner? That she might be bitter because she failed so miserably and so publicly??? Did you get another perspective before you published your entry? NO. And now there are a bunch of fuckin' idiots writing enlightening responses about young gay white men being racist oppressors. WE'RE THE ONES BEING OPPRESSED, YOU DUMBFUCKS.

I went to Sugar a couple of times during Kendall's reign of terror. The only people in the place were white. How could the owner want a crowd that was any whiter? Kendall was in charge of promoting the place, and she attracted the whitest crowd I've ever seen, as she does to all of her events. The problem is that the owner opened up a gay bar, hired Kendall (big mistake), who failed to attract much of the gay scene to this place. In the times that I went it felt more like, as another poster put it, a night out at Applebees.

Good job on spreading rumors and half-truths! You suit the Stranger well.

Dominic - what happened? Not three weeks ago you were tapped by the illustrious Dan Savage to write the most glowing and gushing of reviews of this place. And now Sugar has "a bitter pill to swallow"? Which is it?

Young gay white men are the oppressors? No better than nazis?

Uh-huh.

Isn't it awful how all those young gay white men run around town beating up people of color all weekend long? And where would the neo-nazis be without the young gay white men who fill their ranks?

Dom can defend himself, but he makes it clear that the place got off to a good start, and seemed to come down fast. There's no contradiction in Dom's statements—stop hatin' on Dom.

Megan is brave to stand up to Seattle racism just like Erica and Charles have.

Let's show this business owner what the Capitol Hill community is really all about. Spread the word gender queers and Zbois - this guy's business is going down. The Stranger readers are against racism.

Racist young white gay males can read Seattle Weakly if they want to know when the next Hilter youth dance is happening.

Oh dear.... I'm afraid I'm not up on the "lingo" of the young kids. What are "gender queers and Zbois"? Is that anything like teddy boys, or those "rappers" everybody keeps talking about?

The reason this place will fail is because it is not being sufficiently promoted. I'm gay and live on Capitol Hill, but I just learned of this bar last week. None of my gay friends and acquaintences were aware of it. I haven't seen an ad for it in the Seattle Gay News, or any flyers posted around the neighborhood.



Last night my buddy and I stopped by the bar at around 7:00 pm. It was empty; we were the only two people in the place. Other than the ultra modern decor, there was nothing to clue us in that this was a gay bar; no rainbow flag, no erotic art, nothin'. If this bar succeeds, it will get taken over by the straights, just like the Crescent did. It has a very weak gay identity.



As far as the posts accusing George of being a racist, I think its the posters themselves that are racists. Somehow I doubt they would object if he was trying to attract blacks. Ever heard of reverse racism? It's just as wrong. Some of us are tired of having political correctness shoved down our throats.

Hey "gender queers" and "zbois" - whatever that means - before you go and firebomb this place or start picketing, you might actually try to find out whether the owner actually made such a statement, or whether Kendall was, maybe, perhaps, possibly, LYING to cover for her sorry performance as the promoter. Anyone with two cents would stop and find out the facts before they launch a boycott. After all, Dan Savage gave this place his blessing on more than one occassion - does that make him the lead of the skinny white gay nazis?

Oh GOD. Folks... all white people in America are racist. Get over it and move on. Damn.

Dan, don't be so fucking stupid. Racism isn't about being "beaten up". Get your thumb out of your ass.

I wish Seattle could talk intelligently about race instead of sounding like third grade males who just discovered they have nuts.

As a skinny white gay boy I can think of no better way to spend a Saturday night than terrorizing people of color on Capitol hill with my friends and then going to Sugar so we can fuck each other in the ass while chanting nazi slogans. Like that would EVER happen.

I truly cannot believe the idiocy of all of you claiming that the ranks of the neo-nazis are populated by gay boys who are the oppressors of the world. I think the Stranger needs to institute a mandatory IQ test to be able to post responses on this blog.

"I wish Seattle could talk intelligently about race instead of sounding like third grade males who just discovered they have nuts."

Very inspiring commentary, particularly from a coorospondent who, in their opening paragraph, made the rather extrodinary statement "all white people in America are racist"

If you can't see the racism in your statement, dearie, then you probably aren't the person to lead us to that higher plane where Seattle will talk intelligently about race.

And btw, most males have, by the 3rd grade, been aware of their nuts for quite a long time. Get over THAT and move on.

"And btw, most males have, by the 3rd grade, been aware of their nuts for quite a long time. Get over THAT and move on."

Are not most females aware of their "coochies" by the 3rd grade? I'm still trying to get over the fact that girls have a vagina.

"Megan is brave to stand up to Seattle racism just like Erica and Charles have."

This is true and I appreciate it, but newer organizations like the ACTION NW and its affiliates are doing something too and sometimes gets ignored by our community. And it is Chaired by a man of Latino descent (and is gay!)

Does Action NW have a site?

Some of this reminds me of a conversation with a good feminist friend who went on and on about rape and ALL males. Her rant collapsed when a couple of queer guys pointed out not only do we not rape women, it is not in our thoughts motives or desires..... Duh.

I have never know a racist gay male. In fact, my feeling is that gay men as a group have a very strong desire to fight racism. WE do get concepts/realities of oppression and discrimination and fears of getting beaten up and insulted.

Go find straight rednecks to peg rape and racism on.

By he way - Sugar sounds overpriced and boring.

Just so you all know - I went to Sugar last night. It was ROCKIN. The place was PACKED with a rainbow assortment of fags and their friends - black, white, asian, latino, you name it - they were there, having a great time. Next time check the facts before lobbing insults at someone.

"I have never know a racist gay male."
I think this nicely summarizes the dominant persperctive of the people who post on this board...white liberals in SEVERE denial and who are completely out of touch with the current state of race relations (the reverse racism argument is so 90's) and who probably thought CRASH was a good movie. I'm over it. This whole dialouge is tired, and people of color should save their energies for something more productive. In the meantime, I will not give Sugar the benefit of the doubt as a white-owned establishment; until the owners provide proof that the are NOT trying to court an all-white male clientele and that they value all of their customers regardless of race, age, or gender, I will presume it is racist, ageist and sexist. I will tell my family, friends and coworkers about it, and I have a very big mouth, and I am networked to many other people of color who will not hesitate to get uppity. If the owners continue to promote their racist and sexist policies (and they begin to put those policies into action, like Badlands in SF, where the racist owner directed the bouncers to keep out people of color) they will be sued into oblivion, and will be out of business anyway. This should not be of any surprise to queer people of color, and we got too many other more important things on our to-do lists than to waste time on this board.

I don't have any allusions about SOME gay people being racist. We're all human, after all, and racism is a human failure. But it cuts both ways.

The most racist gay person I've ever met in Seattle is black, but he won't sleep with black men. He was quite popular at one time (back in the 70's) but his internalized ageism has made him bitter and resentful, so much so that no one wants to be around him anymore.

He blames this on racism, when his real problem is a bad case of bitter old queeniness.

But that kind of gets to the point of a lot of racism: People threatened by anything different, and/or looking for some other kind of group to blame for their personal shortcomings.

In my first post, I refered to owners of failed bars who had a certain "type". This doesn't mean they're necessarily racist - they just are running their business to get laid, and that almost always leads to failure of the business.

But if you want to get your panties in a bunch about this, that's your business. But it seems like further investigation might be needed.

Ok z bois and gender queers - in SF they don't allow racists to stay in business. Let's shut this place down. All z bois who read The Stranger, get your uppity mouths spreading the word.

Yes, by all means, let the hysteria begin! With Self-Righteousness and hearsay on your side, how could you be wrong?

Zqueers and Gender Bois Untie!!!!

Oh, and yes - we must always be JUST LIKE SAN FRANCISCO!!! She's our pretty, popular older sister. She wears high-fashion outfits, and always smells so nice.

I bet she could be a stewardess if she'd just knuckle down and stop thinking about boys all the time.

Vote Coolidge!!

All white men are racist. The Stranger needs to get a person of color as editor. Seattle's had white male editors long enough, it's time for a fresh perspective from someone who get's it. This club owner is racist, if The Stranger editors are too chicken shit to write about it, the community will take care of it like we did with Septieme.

Racist Watch is a racist and a fan of Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton is a closet racist.

I saw Racist Watch steal all the toilet paper out of the womyns room at Planned Parenthood, and give it to young gay males, who used it to TP the homes of people of color, and then had a fisting orgy at Club Z.

Club Z's building is owned by an Asian woman. Coincidence? I think not.

Racist watch should start a paper. The community will take care of it, like we did Frederick & Nelson!

Racism is no joke. Kendall has plenty of supporters who'll get the last laugh.

Wow, 40 comments and counting. This is no mere thread – it’s an entire spool! Anyhow, since a few folks directed questions my way, I’ll sew on several more inches.

First I want to reiterate something written by other commentators. The quotes attributed to the owner are just that: alleged statements and third-hand accounts. These are not words heard by your own ears, so take them with a grain of salt. In fact, take them with the Dead Sea.

As for my "gushing" review… you don’t even know. I said Sugar looks like an abortion clinic. However, Dan Savage did remove one paragraph that criticized the place. I basically said the dance floor was empty, therefore felt awkward.

That one paragraph aside, I think Sugar deserved a boost in the form of a positive review. Here’s why:

Seattle’s gay club scene is flaccid. Other than a few noteworthy gay theme nights, Capitol Hill only has a handful of queer dance clubs, and almost all play super-cheesy gay pop. This is fucking Seattle. Can’t us fags go out and listen to music rendered by an artist and not a record label? On my two trips to Sugar, skilled DJs played indie tracks.

Here’s another reason to support Sugar, which has a dumb name. Most of Seattle’s gay bars are nasty; Sugar isn’t. Sure, ghetto-fabulous can be fun (I heart The Cock in NY and The Cresent in Seattle), but we’re already a second-tier city; let’s have some first-tier-city gay bars. Sugar’s owners converted a shit hole box into a damn fine club. That’s a step in the right direction.

Lastly, Sugarbaby and checkyerselfb4uwreckyerself, Sugar’s “bitter pill” would be accepting that most young gay white boys in Seattle congregate at private residences and parties, not clubs. So if a Seattle club owner were to expect gaggles of YGWBs to show up, s/he would be disappointed because the XY Magazine YGWBs aren’t old enough to get in, they can’t afford it anyway and there aren’t enough of them to fill a club. Hence, the bitter pill is about a fantasy clientele not Sugar itself.

Dominic -

Last night I was at Sugar. There were hundreds of young gay males (OF ALL COLORS) there. Then I went to Neighbours. There were hundreds more young gay white males there. Apparently they all did not get your memo that they were supposed to be at a private house party. Stop trying to be the authoritative voice of the gay scene - you don't know shit.

All white business owners in Seattle are racists. All of their business owners should be boycotted. And all banks and mortgage companies, which are owned by whites, should be boycotted. Everyone should move out of their homes, live in a cardboard box on the street, and eat garbage. Except - shit - the cardboard company is owned by white people. I guess we all just have to kill ourselves. Fuckin white people.

"Racism is no joke. Kendall has plenty of supporters who'll get the last laugh."

Ahem - if you had ever gone to Sugar when Kendall was promoting, you would have seen that she is white, all the djs where white, the lighting techs were white, all the staff were white, and the dancers were white. Since this was Kendall's staff and she was in charge of promoting and organzing events, that seems to me that she would be the queen racist, if your logic holds true.

Sugarbaby -

You are absolutely right. The crowd at Sugar and other places is diverse. Club owners can't expect a homogeneous crowd of YGWBs. And besides, a mixed crowd is more fun. I hope Sugar keeps playing good tunes and attracting a diverse crowd, because it is filling a niche Seattle needs.

Q zeers and bender gois - since Dan Savage promoted this place on the Slog, he has exposed himself as being in league with the racist owner. Let's boycott the Stranger until they replace him with a persyn of color as editor! Don't pick up free copies or read the free online version. We'll show them who owns the Hill! We have also launched a web site to fight Sugar and the racist Stranger. Go to www.screaming-mimi.com to join us!

Megan, Charles, and Erica have been brave in writing about Seattle's racism. Reading the comments here it's obvious white Seattle is unwilling to face their racism. It would help to have a person of color editing The Stranger. Charles is the only black writer in both weeklies. Why can't someone like Charles be editor?

The problem here is not racism. I went to Sugar this weekend and there were plenty of people of color there having a great time. The problem is bad journalism. Megan Seling irresponsibly posted a blog entry that included hearsay taken as truth, and without finding out the other side of the story before posting. A responsible journalist would have contacted the owner before posting and at least waited for them to offer or decline the opportunity to respond. Another reader noted that Kendall is white and that her staff at Sugar were white. Having gone there when she was promoting, I can say I believe that to be true. I've not attended many of her other events like Comeback or Hot Mess, but I seem to remember that the djs and the majority of people who attend those events are white. Why then is she being held up as some sort of heroine and role model for fighting racism?

If you would like a little background on the George Foster look into his legal issues with his other club The Down Under and you will find that he has had a recent issue with a lawsuit aimed at him for refusing to allow a man, who wears a turban for religious reasons, into his club unless the turban was removed. That is a fact. George was offered an opportunity to apologize & avoid the law suit but refused and chose to pursue it in court. That is also fact. I can also say that G. Foster on more than one occasion, well before opening the doors when he was recruiting people to work on his team, vocalize that he wants a young white crowd. He once stated this after an evening at Comeback which had a “hot white crowd” that he was very taken with. It’s pretty clear though that his focus on young white boys is due mainly to the fact that that’s where his sexual interests lie. These views are what made a number of people, including myself, back off of his project early on. I was appalled at how calmly he would make the most racist of statements and then seemed shocked at people’s reactions often responding with “you don’t understand how much trouble I have from those people at The Down Under” He doesn’t even seem to understand that these statements are wrong and it’s even a little bit sad that he doesn’t get it. Personally, I don’t care what the music is or who is promoting the space. I refuse to pay money to any business that I know to hold such views and that’s the case regardless of whether or not the music is circuty, gay anthems or power rock disco and I couldn’t give a damn whether or not he’s filling a niche that is missing in the gay scene on the hill. If Sugar represents that niche then we certainly don’t want it filled. The owner is a racist, among many other things, and I know this from what I have heard come out of his own mouth. It’s not about the scene at all, it’s about the principal!

I have been to a number of LA Kendall's events and have met a few Djs that work with her. Two of the three were women of color. Get your facts straight folks. Your unfounded assertions are not helping anyone.

Z bois and Gender Queers, get the word out. A racist is trying to do business on Capitol Hill. Let's shut him down. Boycott Septieme and Boycott this place. Young gay white men are all racist.

Bender Kweers and G Boizz! Light the torches! We're going to take this place down! All business owners are revanchist capitalist pigs! Long live the revolution of underprivileged persyns! Shit on the Racist Stranger! Shit on Sugar!

And I've been to several of Kendall's events - white, white, WHITE, WHITE, WHITE. All white DJs, all white staff, all white clientele. I was there and saw it, so fuck you. She can cry wolf all she wants. The peeple of Capitol Hill know the truth!!!!!

"for refusing to allow a man, who wears a turban for religious reasons, into his club unless the turban was removed"

The Down Under has a strict dress code policy posted on its front door stating absolutely no headgear or hats of any kind. Try wearing a baseball cap in there - you won't get in.

Light the torches! We're going to take this place down! All business owners are revanchist capitalist pigs! Long live the revolution of underprivileged persyns! Shit on the Racist Stranger! Shit on Sugar!

And I've been to several of Kendall's events - white, white, WHITE, WHITE, WHITE.

ewwww....This sounds a lot like Kyle Huff's letter. It's creepy.

"ewwww....This sounds a lot like Kyle Huff's letter. It's creepy."

It's an ironic post... to point out how ridiculous people like Z Boi sound when they overreact based on a rumor or second-hand information.

I just got on here last night because several of my friends and people who worked very hard on Sugar were offended by this 'conversation'. I have frankly been shocked at how much passion everyone has for this thing considering everything else going on in the world.

Some of my comments, well, can be taken out of context when you read them this way.

For the record, I can't control who comes to the party - white, black, straight, gay or otherwise. Nor do I have any desire to. My hiring practices are also not governed by skin color or sex. That was the point of what I was saying. I was not responsible for every aspect of Sugar either. I did not hire the barstaff or security.

I wrote a press release which was sent out last week which I still stand by:

Thanks to all for their support in our most recent Re:Launch-HitGirl! Project!
We have had a wonderful time, and have gotten to share amazing experiences with the whole community in assisting Seattle’s newest nightclub Sugar with their opening. Some incredibly talented people have lent their names and expertise to the project. We wish to extend our thanks to them and everyone who has joined us along the way. The club has had an extraordinary opening, and that support has helped to make that happen!

Our intention has always been to move on to our other projects once the venue opened, and this time has finally come. Our last show at Sugar was Thursday May 25 featuring our very own DJ Minx, and a benefit for Gay City. A wonderful note to go out on!

It’s been an exciting ride since January helping with everything involved, from build-out, staffing, booking, developing the marketing strategies and public relations for the launch! Such an amazing accomplishment for our team to pull together such a diverse group from the community and beyond and it is now complete.

We wish our best to Sugar and it’s entire management and staff as they move forward to what we hope will be years of great success!

Sincerely,
The entire Re:Launch-HitGirl! Team!

Kendall is a good promoter, but if he wanted the circuit, he should have gotten somebody from the circuit.

I would say that this is a case of somebody who was not in the community attempting to profit from the community.. Which has been done before, with great success. I personally know somebody who was the least gay man in history who got the bright idea to sell pink triangle t-shirts at the parade, and he made loot.

However, do some research. Sometimes you try to put a square peg in a round hole.. nothing wrong with the peg or the hole..

I have to agree, though, that space doesn't have the best track record. I guess the easy did ok, though, right?

GUY

LA Kendall is one of the best promoters I know. She is also one of the most non-discriminating people I know, and has a heart of gold. She works her ass off and puts %1000 effort into everything she does. She is a beautiful person with wonderful ideas who I look up to in so many ways. This girl has been in the game for a long time and deserves nothing but the utmost respect. She has done so much for the Seattle music scene, gay or straight.

For the record, Megan did leave a message for me to give her a call. I thought it was about designing an ad for the Stranger. I had no idea it was about this article. I didn't get that from the message that was left.

I don't consider myself racist. I am sorry if I offended Kendall and some of her employees. I am a gay man who hasn't been out long and I wanted to start something new here up on the hill. I didn't know very many people and I knew Kendall so I hired her. Unfortunately it didn't work out. I think the local dj's she brought in were good. Perhaps they will come back some day.

As for the turban thing, I just didn't want to bring religion into the nightclub of Downunder. I don't want to know what customers religions are because most religions look unfavorably at gays. The Downunder already has a strict dress code because it is a hip hop club and you have to have some kind of dress code. An attorney for the Sikh religion did threaten to sue so I have signs posted up front now that turbans are allowed at the DU. I wasn't trying to offend people. The attorney was nice and understood what I was saying but I still had to give in.

Please don't boycott us yet. We've only got business on the weekends so don't come during the week unless you want a drink at a quiet bar.

And if someone whats to use the club for an event, give me a call.

I don't wan't or need to foster (no pun intended)
anymore drama/gossip and i don't know Kendall or her employees but i do know George & in trying to work with him, & for him i can completely sympathize with Kendall on what an impossible task that is!
The things kendall said, wich iam sure came out after along time of trying to be professional & holding her tongue, needed to vent & was givin the perfect opportunity to do so, unfortuetly it happened to be with press & iam not sure if i or anyone else would not have done the same thing under those circumstances. What i can say for sure is that my working experiance with Mr. foster sounds very familar to Kendall's working experiance. I too tried to be professional and bite my tounge under very un-professional working conditions. Mr. Foster makes the smallest of tasks impossible in order to feed his own ego & control issues! It wasn't until i could no longer look myself in the mirror & justify my working relationship with him. No amount of sappossed experiance or MONEY (wich is his #1 way of controling people) could justify his self indulgent, yes racist, manipulative, mean,& random behavor! I take 100% responsibility for chooseing to work for this man & i also take 100% responsibility for choosing to NOT work for this man. I am not shifting blame. But the reason i decided to write anything is because of the slog he wrote. The way he protrays himself to be an innocent in this situation, that he didn't know anybody & that he is just a guy trying to do something differn't wreeks of the exact behavor i wrote of above.And is further proof of his complete lack of personal accountability.
It makes me a bit sick in the stomach. I just wanted to offer another perspective that does indeed support Kendall's experiance.
Iam not concerned with sucessfull or un-sucessfull nightclubs, especially when it comes to total lack of integrity & no personal accountability. Iam however concerned with patronizing a buisness that has someone like this @ the helm, & so should everybody especially you gays! To me this is the real issue here!
Kendall if you are listening (i really hope you are not!) i understand & i applaud you for being the wipping boy/girl for what is a much bigger issue, for taking a bit of heat to expose this guy & for having the where with all to get out when you did! Much Respect & Success!

P.S. For what it's worth i think "hotmess" is a dope ass party. Thanx for doing shit right! Keep on truck'n!
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LA Kendall above all else is a classy woman of great character and a top notch promoter. She consistently tries to challenge boundaries and preconceived notions of how a club night should be. I have found her club nights for over the last ten years to be nothing but diverse in every way. To call her racist, unprofessional, or anything other than great is just full of ignorance and clear you don't know her at all. I applaud her for being so professional about a completely ridiculous situation, that I myself would want to bad mouth and bitch all over town about. Keep on keeping on Kendall. You know what's up.