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Wednesday, November 5, 2008

What He Said

posted by on November 5 at 8:47 AM

Jon DeVore at HA:

As Republicans survey the smoldering wreckage of the party of Lincoln and the inevitable reassessment occurs, hereís some free advice for them: stop lying about everything.

I donít mean spinning and fudging and trying to put a good face on your policy positions. I mean stop lying as a first, middle and last resort about every last damn thing under the sun. If you think a specific tax proposal is a bad idea, just explain why, donít paint anyone and everything who might think it is a good idea as a communist. Donít call birth control abortion. Donít paint opponents as lovers of sex offenders. If your opposition is pointing out that the Constitution needs to be upheld, donít call them terrorist sympathizers. If Americans are concerned about the economy, donít try to blame people who were in office 30 years ago.

Stop lying. If you can.

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Yes, I agree.

Stop the name calling.

I have put out a call in Physics World magazine asking him to stop name calling people who question some of the tenets of Global Warming and labelling them "deniers".

I wrote an essay asking Al Gore to call us Questioners:

http://you-read-it-here-first.com/viewtopic.php?t=3257&sid=9b0545e5e847ad9afa058e5363b3be48

Posted by John Bailo | November 5, 2008 8:51 AM
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How about we call you Ostriches? Because clearly you have your stupid heads jammed in the sand. "Questioners" is as misleading and disingenuous as "intelligent design." Whine somewhere else today, would ya?

Posted by sorryroger | November 5, 2008 9:05 AM
3

Can we have a slog poll on whether to have John Bailo's ip address banned? I really don't think we'll be missing out on much intelligent discourse without him.

Posted by harumph | November 5, 2008 9:07 AM
4

A-fucking-men.

Its like the party has been run by a bunch of frat kids who've never been told 'no' for the last 12 years.

"The sky is orange."
"Uh...it's blue!"
"Fuck off! Nazi! Fuckface!"
"Uh...it's still blue!"
"I'm gonna beat the crap out of you!"

Posted by Kat | November 5, 2008 9:10 AM
5

but... but... you lied first!

no, you actually are a fascist. you're just to dumb to know it.

Posted by max solomon | November 5, 2008 9:45 AM
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re: that smoldering wreckage of their party,
my dad had the best proposal(/dream) i've heard yet about that:
the Republican party should re-form as the Green Party (sincerely), then the Democratic Party would sort of fill the place of the bad guys that the Republicans have done so repugnantly all these years. i.e. the choice would be between the Democrats and a *better* party.

the reason why that's not going to happen is the same as why that "stop lying about everything" idea isn't going to get very far with them - they're not capable of it.
are you, John Bailo?

Posted by jw | November 5, 2008 9:57 AM
7

Well you can call the Republicans LOSERS! because that's not name calling, that's a fact.

Posted by PizmoSF | November 5, 2008 9:59 AM
8

Um actually when Lincoln was a republican they were what we think of as democrats now. the Democrats were the PRO-slavery party of the south.

Posted by AS | November 5, 2008 10:09 AM
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I agree with the premise that they should stop lying about everything and that they use it as their first and last option, however my list would be a little different. Stop lying about:

Reasons to go to war
Whether we torture people
The effects of tax policy
The effects of environmental policy
The way and reasons government contracts are awarded
The way governmental hiring and firing is handled
The seriousness and nature of terrorist plots against us
Whether and why we conduct domestic spying

And perhaps most importantly:
Whether our government follows our own laws

Posted by Jim | November 5, 2008 12:45 PM
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I agree with the premise that they should stop lying about everything and that they use it as their first and last option, however my list would be a little different. Stop lying about:

Reasons to go to war
Whether we torture people
The effects of tax policy
The effects of environmental policy
The way and reasons government contracts are awarded
The way governmental hiring and firing is handled
The seriousness and nature of terrorist plots against us
Whether and why we conduct domestic spying

And perhaps most importantly:
Whether our government follows our own laws

Posted by Jim | November 5, 2008 12:56 PM
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I agree with the premise that they should stop lying about everything and that they use it as their first and last option, however my list would be a little different. Stop lying about:

Reasons to go to war
Whether we torture people
The effects of tax policy
The effects of environmental policy
The way and reasons government contracts are awarded
The way governmental hiring and firing is handled
The seriousness and nature of terrorist plots against us
Whether and why we conduct domestic spying

And perhaps most importantly:
Whether our government follows our own laws

Posted by Jim | November 5, 2008 1:17 PM
12

Man, sorry about the triple post. I was getting some sort of weird movable type error. I reloaded to make sure I wasn't multi-posting and everything.

Posted by j | November 5, 2008 1:45 PM

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