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Friday, November 30, 2007

Dialing It In For Waterboarding

posted by on November 30 at 10:45 AM

Posted by Ryan S. Jackson

In the Pavlovian world of the ultra-conservative primary voter, the man who will waterboard the children of illegal immigrants is king. Time’s Joe Klein goes into the depths of a Republican focus group for the last debate, wherein people were armed only with dials to show their displeasure for compassion:

In the next segment—the debate between Romney and Mike Huckabee over Huckabee’s college scholarships for the deserving children of illegal immigrants—I noticed something really distressing: When Huckabee said, “After all, these are children of God,” the dials plummeted. And that happened time and again through the evening: Any time any candidate proposed doing anything nice for anyone poor, the dials plummeted (30s). These Republicans were hard.

But there was worse to come: When John McCain started talking about torture—specifically, about waterboarding—the dials plummeted again. Lower even than for the illegal Children of God. Down to the low 20s, which, given the natural averaging of a focus group, is about as low as you can go. Afterwards, Luntz asked the group why they seemed to be in favor of torture. “I don’t have any problem pouring water on the face of a man who killed 3000 Americans on 9/11,” said John Shevlin, a retired federal law enforcement officer. The group applauded, appallingly.

The winner in the hearts of these angry, angry people? That would be Romney, who of the 30 people in focus group, left with the approval of 14.

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say it aint so Joe--Republicans are bloodthirsty, unthinking greedy bastards with revenge in their heart and no tolerance for, well, tolerance and balanced thinking? say it aint so...

Posted by andy niable | November 30, 2007 11:01 AM
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You can't expect the average republican these days to be much more than an ignorant racist in sheep's clothing.

In other news, if you want to justify anything to a group of conservatives just say 9/11.

Posted by seattle98104 | November 30, 2007 11:16 AM
3

Speaking of 9-11, where's bin Laden?

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 30, 2007 11:43 AM
4

The human species can be so fucked up sometimes.

Posted by SDA in SEA | November 30, 2007 12:17 PM
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That "retired federal law enforcement officer" is totally right -- someone should scrape up the remains of all those 9/11 hijackers with a razor blade, gather them together in a petri dish or a coffee mug, and then waterboard them. That'll learn 'em.

Posted by flamingbanjo | November 30, 2007 12:50 PM
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1984 anyone?

Posted by cbc | November 30, 2007 1:27 PM
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I wish Joe Klein had credibility.

Posted by laterite | November 30, 2007 1:44 PM
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Blessed are the poor? Nope, I guess not in this Christian nation.

Posted by NOLA Reader | November 30, 2007 2:02 PM
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Will in Seattle wrote:

Speaking of 9-11, where's bin Laden?

Hey Will, you know he's not wanted for the crimes of 9/11, right? He's on the FBI's most-wanted list for other things, but the FBI says it has "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

Posted by Phil M | November 30, 2007 3:35 PM

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