quick.

Experience is bad, m'kay?

nice try ronk, but they are saying inexperience isn't bad when the experience cited was experience in making poor decisions.

America wants change, Hillary is in trouble. And I want to be the Obama Boy!!!

Sen. Clinton or Sen. Dodd will make a great VP choice for President Obama.

Sen. Edwards will be Minister of Finance.

I think the point is well made. Everyone thinks experience is everything, but if it was, Dick Cheney would be the best leader in the world. He has screwed up royally.

Experience is important, no doubt, but so is judgement.

judgement and character, both very important. and for the love of god, time to put a PILF in the white house. obama wins on all counts.

@6

Judgment is important, indeed. Someone should have told that to Obama pre his bible-belt-homosexual-reformation revival tour.

Obama sets up a false comparison when he compares Clinton to Cheney.

In my experience it is those with experience and gravitas who get elected president in this country. Obama is a leader for the future, but I am not at all sure he is the choice for 2008. When you watch the debates you can see the difference between Obama, who says what people want to hear, and Clinton, who usually gives the presidential answer. Remember, Seattle is not at all representative of America.

As for me, I think it is far past time for a woman in the White House.

I want to like this guy, but he not yet convinced me that he's anything other than a polite multicultural political version of Mr. Rogers. Grow some balls, dude!

If I had to pick someone other than Hillary, right now it would be Edwards. (I love Biden but his numbers are in the toilet.)

It will be interesting to see how he spins this statement back in the opposite direction when he is campaigning for her next year.

@6 - Everyone on here thinks "change" is everything. If it was, Bush would have been the best leader in the world.

@6 Are you kidding? We don't love change as an abstract principle, we want change from the current administration. Change from Bush = good. Change in general = ?

I mean @12. We're cool, 6.

the Obama--Clinton--Edwards slapfighting isn't really the converse of Kerry's meek response to Swiftboating. His problem was that he didn't hit back hard enough against Republicans; their problem seems to be hitting back too hard against Democrats.

Big Sven @10 - you want to like him but he's too much like Mr. Rogers? You wouldn't want Mr. Rogers running things? Balls? Mr. Rogers had balls of iron go netflix Fred Rogers: America's Favorite Neighbor.

And start liking Obama. Because of this:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/12/obama.death.penalty.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Phoebe-

Cool link.

I was just so traumatized by Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry, I have to *know* that he will beat up the Rs. Perhaps this new feistyness with HRC will up my comfort zone.

And, no, sadly, I wouldn't want Fred Rogers running the country. We had that in 1976-1980 and the result was 12 years of Reaganomics. I love Jimmy Carter as a person and think he was one of the most principled men to ever rise to high office, yet the inescapable conclusion one reaches from his tenure is that Americans really have a primal need for strong, decisive, aggressive leaders.

Man, it's a shame that Paul Wellstone died. He was progressive *and* a fucking pitbull.