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Thursday, March 1, 2007

Highlights from the Debate Over Washington’s Soon-to-be New Domestic Partnership Law

posted by on March 1 at 15:25 PM

According to notes prepared by Slog reader Brian Slodysko:

Around 10:50, what appeared to be several Ms. Washington contestants, in tiaras, gathered on an upper balcony.

Sen. Val Stevens (R-Snohomish) suggests the bill will lead to bestiology (sic), necrophilia and incest. The bill’s chief sponsor, Ed Murray (D-Seattle), objects.

Surprise of the day, from another source: Dale Brandland, the Republican Whip from Bellingham, switched his vote from no to yes.

Murray says he was impressed that, “for the first time, the Senate moved before the House on a gay issue.” He said Sen. Steven’s comments were shocking. “She’s referring to a member [of the Senate], me, who’s sitting on the floor, people who work here, friends and families and constituents. It was very difficult to sit there and listen to it.”

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Just because your dog is like a member of the family and dead, doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to make sweet love with it.

Question: does mr. stevens take his notes in crayon?

Posted by kinaidos | March 1, 2007 3:34 PM
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Dear Senator Stevens,

Please go to the cannon at that Snohomish high school, you know the one that blew up and maimed the kid who the community turned on, insert your head and have your brother/husband light it up.

Gawd, what a nasty b*&^h!

Posted by Original Andrew | March 1, 2007 3:41 PM
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I don't understand. Can't the bestiologists practice their infamy in secret already, without anybody having to get married? Really, what does one have to do with the other? You could make the same "argument" about, say, allowing divorce. Or miscegenation. Or Methodists marrying Lutherans (not that that would ever happen).

Posted by Fnarf | March 1, 2007 3:54 PM
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I used to be into bestiology, but I had to change my major when the lab classes started getting intense.

Posted by giantladysquirrels | March 1, 2007 4:11 PM
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yum...i can't wait until i can marry (and fuck)my brother's dead horse in the ass....HOT!!!!

Posted by michael strangeways | March 1, 2007 4:18 PM
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Wasn't the most highly publicized act of beastiality in Washington state committed by a straight man?

Posted by alienjukebox | March 1, 2007 4:20 PM
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alien @6... well, it was a male human and a male horse, no? i'm really not sure how you define things in such a case...

Posted by infrequent | March 1, 2007 4:27 PM
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@ 6 and 7,

Yes, technically, that poor dude was straight.

Posted by Original Andrew | March 1, 2007 4:29 PM
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He was neither gay nor straight, he was a beastialogist.

Just like Val Stevens' husband.

Posted by monkey | March 1, 2007 4:40 PM
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i think a dick in the ass, regardless of the species of the dick, makes you kinda gay...

Posted by michael strangeways | March 1, 2007 4:42 PM
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i think a dick in the ass, regardless of the species of the dick, makes you kinda gay...

So then straight men wanting their girlfriends to peg them with a strap-on are actually kinda gay? Not just adventurous and non-vanilla? interesting

Posted by Faux Show | March 1, 2007 4:48 PM
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I didn't realize Sen. Stevens was a practitioner of bestiality.

Good to know - she's not going anywhere near Norm's in Fremont now!

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 1, 2007 5:02 PM
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a strap on isn't a dick

BUT

a guy who likes to get fucked in the ass with ANYTHING, IS a little gay..

Posted by michael strangeways | March 1, 2007 5:16 PM
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Huh? How do you figure? Orientation has nothing to do with acts, only with who you like to do the acts with. You can be homsexual without ever committing a sex act at all, and you can have all the kinkiest butt sex imaginable, but if you're a man and you're with a woman, you're not gay. It's not really that complicated.

Posted by Fnarf | March 1, 2007 5:33 PM
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Yeah, sure Fnarf... You just keep telling yourself that.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | March 1, 2007 5:46 PM
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So are lesbians that enjoy vaginal penitration kind of straight?

Fnarf is right.

Posted by follow your logic | March 1, 2007 6:42 PM
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You know what *is* kinda gay? Nervous tittering about butt-sex....

Posted by golob | March 1, 2007 6:54 PM
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it is not the act of butt fucking itself- FNarF, the Carnal Expert is right - it is falling in love with the good feeling and the fucker......tres gay.

I did have a friend who went around for years saying - I am not gay I just like to suck cock. ( kinda fnarf theory)

People were kind to his face, and laughing behind his back.

And we all know the ending - the biggest homo in the world after he finished coming out

I have a very low fag meter index - one act and you are gay, forever

Easier and adds many fantasy roads

Posted by celisea | March 1, 2007 7:37 PM
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"a guy who likes to get fucked in the ass with ANYTHING, IS a little gay."

Mike, do yourself a favor and experiment. There's a damn good reason why many gay men enjoy ass play, and it's not because they are gay.

Posted by Sean | March 1, 2007 7:38 PM
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Now I understand why Ed Murray is strung out far enough to actually continue to tell people I am a homophobe (for once saying that anyone the 43rd sent to the statehouse would defend gay rights, and that's not enough) despite the fact I am bi, lived on Capitol Hill for most of a decade and wrote a feature film with a gay love story at its center: because listening to insane shit like this from his bigoted, backwoods ignorant fellow legislators has understandably driven him a little bonkers.

Ed, you have my sincerest respect and sympathy: all is forgiven. (I am not kidding.) I don't know how you put up with it.

Posted by Grant Cogswell | March 1, 2007 9:24 PM
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so this may be slightly off topic, but i counted like 56 co sponsors of the dp bill in the house out of something like 97 members, so unless im wrong its pretty much a done deal before it even gets to an actual vote.

Posted by blehpunk | March 1, 2007 10:11 PM
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Val Stevens needs to retire, sit on her front porch back in Snohomish County and tell passers-by to get off her property. That would be the most productive thing this horrible person could do for the rest of her days.

During the '96 session, she co-sponsored a bill that would have changed the definition of child-abuse to "disfigurement, dismemberment, or death". This was so parents could discipline their children how they wanted with the intervention of "The State." (AKA Child Protective Services) That's right, burning cigarettes into a child's hand or hanging them by their ankles in a closet is a-okay and it's none of the State's beeswax!

(The sponsor of the bill wanted it passed because he was angry that his foster children were taken away from him because he was beating them with wooden spoons. Go figure.)

What a piece of work.

Posted by urgh | March 1, 2007 11:50 PM
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Washington State is out of control. We have passed a historic law for GLB and sometimes T folks, and not supported it. We have had last Friday, Marc Brenman of the WA HRC admit on behalf of the HRC they have had no clue they didn't have jurisdiction in several insurance cases, even as they heard them!

What good is a ring for a 2nd class citizen? What good is the word 'Marriage' if it only means you have half the rights of the other 'Humans' around you?

What ever happened to 'we all bleed red'? More people need to start speaking the truth, instead of worrying how it will affect the Gay Marriage Movement momentum. We don't have civil rights yet, why should we marry and die without them? Is that good enough?

Posted by Anya Adora | March 2, 2007 3:01 AM
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Celisea, I fail to see how you can possibly have taken "I am not gay I just like to suck cock" to be a "kinda fnarf theory". A cock is a male characteristic. An ass is not.

Posted by Fnarf | March 2, 2007 11:31 AM
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I love how this "what's gay" discussion also presupposes that no women enjoy anal sex. So if such a woman existed, would her love for assplay make HER gay? Would she be a lesbian? How does THAT work?

Posted by Gloria | March 2, 2007 1:00 PM
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