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Tuesday, January 16, 2007

Name That Hood

posted by on January 16 at 14:20 PM

In the middle of Seattle there is neighborhood suffering an identity crisis because it doesn’t really have a name.

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It’s not quite Capitol Hill - according to realty maps, the “Hill” begins north of Madison Avenue. It’s also not the absurdly-named Squire Park - the community council Web site says the area only reaches as far north as Union Street and east to 23rd Avenue. It’s not the entire sprawling Central District – because that has many smaller neighborhoods within it and informally includes everything from Judkins Park to the Madison Valley, and we are not supposed to utter the acronym “CD” because it sounds like “seedy” or something. Here’s a map of the area.

The boundaries leave everyone on the “other” side of Capitol Hill, between Union and Madison and east of 23rd, neighborhoodless. And the vibe in the northern part of Squire Park - around 21st and Union where I live and near where I grew up - feels like a different country from the southern part of Squire Park on 12th and Jackson Street, where everything is written in Vietnamese.

Around here, spunky coffee shops, cult movie houses, and hipster bars characteristic of Capitol Hill are juxtaposed with CD institutions like Thomson’s Point of View and Ezell’s. Freaks and queers live adjacent to indigenous African-Americans and prodigious breeders, and we love one another and everything is good.

Politics of gentrification aside, it’s the coolest place to live in Seattle. And it feels like a neighborhood. A friendly debate over the name regularly ensues amongst residents, as we often don’t know how to describe the location.

You see, the name of your neighborhood is part of your identity and right now we’re identityless, so dammit, we need a name. And there is nobody better to help name it than you, the brilliant readers of Slog.

A few names we’ve tossed around are SoMa, as in South-of-Madison, Union Square, for the area around 23rd and Union, and the Triangle of Influence, since it’s an up-and-coming neighborhood kinda shaped like a triangle.

We have ideas for you to consider; you have better ideas and a lovely comments section, so, I beg you – for the sake of our identity – please help us choose a name for our hood. We might even run a Slog poll for the leading contenders and declare the winner “squirrels” which is like “squires” only they actually have parks. Once we decide, we can sing it from the crematorium tower at Providence Hospital to the poorly-lit Safeway on 23rd and Madison.

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1

TriBeMa. Just annex everything West of 23rd to Madison. ;p

Posted by golob | January 16, 2007 2:32 PM
2

As someone kinda on the border there (25th and Madison), I just consider myself a resident of the DMZ between the CD, CH, and MP.

Posted by kap0w | January 16, 2007 2:32 PM
3

don't go with union square, since that's already a 'hood in nyc and other cities

how about Union Triangle?

Posted by bill | January 16, 2007 2:33 PM
4

In honor of my sister (who lives at 20th and Union) I move we call it Annique-ville. Or Funkytown.

Posted by tam | January 16, 2007 2:39 PM
5

It's part of the CD. Who cares what realtors want.

Posted by rodrigo | January 16, 2007 2:45 PM
6

Me 'n' my peeps refer to it as the Burner Triangle or the Burner Dodecahedron of Influence because there are so many of us Burning Man type people around. It's the Burner Ghetto fer sure.


Posted by Michael Holden | January 16, 2007 2:49 PM
7

How about Cherry Hill?

Posted by catalina vel-duray | January 16, 2007 2:50 PM
8

I live a few blocks off Cherry and MLK, and I understood this neighborhood was called Leschi? Although hardly anyone know where I mean when I say that.

Posted by Mistress Matisse | January 16, 2007 2:56 PM
9

You pretentious wank wannabes really need to get over yourselves. It's about as Central to the Central District as you can get. Maybe if you learned a little bit about Seattle's history you wouldn't be so assamed of where you live.

Posted by proud to be the CD | January 16, 2007 2:56 PM
10

dude, it's two blocks from 23rd and union. it's in the middle of fucking CD!

Posted by chris | January 16, 2007 2:58 PM
11

SoMad

South of Madison.

Posted by monkey | January 16, 2007 2:59 PM
12

To be perfectly clear, I've lived within two miles of here for more than half my life. And Dominic has lived in this area for all but four years of his life. We love this neighborhood, we're hardly ashamed by it. Especially now that, say, I don't have to walk past Pal's Tavern on my way home from school, know what I mean?

It just needs a name of it's own that really fits.

Burner Triangle.

Yo.

Posted by Michael Holden | January 16, 2007 3:02 PM
13

It's the CD. Anyone ever notice the sign at about 18th and Madison that says "Welcome to the Central District"?
It's right where your beloved triangle starts.

Posted by scharrera | January 16, 2007 3:06 PM
14


I seriously think that's the CD. I love saying the CD. (Who says it means seedy? Hmph.)

Posted by CD | January 16, 2007 3:10 PM
15

Central District. Rock rock on.

Posted by Beachhead | January 16, 2007 3:13 PM
16

Note that in the context of neighborhood planning (in the Capitol Hill Urban Center Village Neighborhood Plan:

The 397-acre neighborhood planning area, called the Capitol Hill Urban Center Village (Village), is a densely populated urban neighborhood made up of multiple-family residential areas and storefront commercial streets. The Village is only a portion of what is commonly referred to as "Capitol Hill." The Village's north and east boundaries follow existing borders between multiple-family and single-family housing zones (single-family zones lie outside of the Village). To the south, the Village borders the Pike-Pine neighborhood and, to the west, Interstate-5 separates Capitol Hill from downtown.

I don't know how your neighborhood is categorized. I think of it as part of the Central District for sure. But then, I think of Pike-Pine as part of Capitol Hill, although it really is not.

Posted by Phil | January 16, 2007 3:23 PM
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Hey, I like the name CD, too. I'm not suggesting we try to abolish the name. But the CD is huge and has lots of other little pods within it. Ya know, like Capitol Hill has Pike/Pine and 15th and North Capitol Hill - because they are each unique. And when describing your hood, just saying CD is pretty vague and doesn't specify where you live. So it would make since to narrow it down a bit to describe this part, me thinks.

And, in case you didn't read it, I grew up in the CD, live in the CD and love the CD. So spare me the sanctimonious geography lecture.

Posted by Dominic Holden | January 16, 2007 3:23 PM
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We don't want another West Edge on our hands. It's the CD. Period.

Posted by k | January 16, 2007 3:25 PM
19

Every time a lease has expired on me, I've jumped hoods. Since I haven't been here long, that's not saying much, but I've moved progressively south and am currently on 26th between Howell and Denny.

And I hope I'll never have to leave. I am
So Mad about the CD!

The Greater Madison Valley Community Council sends me their rag and I love it...but though my roomate and I joke about living in "SoMad", there's no doubt about it: we're in the CD and I for one am damn proud of it. I love it here. The neighborhood is peaceful (except for all the construction...the condos are encroaching!), the people are great. And don't even get me started about the chicken.

Central District, represent.

Posted by jessieissomadaboutcd | January 16, 2007 3:26 PM
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I love living in Squire Park, and I love that it's called Squire Park. That no one who doesn't live there even knows the name "Squire Park" is part of its charm.

Posted by genevieve | January 16, 2007 3:28 PM
21

I like "Central District," though it's truly a blessing to live in a small city in which every block is deemed its own named neighborhood.

Posted by horatiosanzserif | January 16, 2007 3:33 PM
22

I've always thought the CD was a rather vague name for a neighborhood. If I lived there I would call it the Garfield District since it is so close to Garfield High School. And it is named after the coolest of the assassinated presidents, "who was shot by disappointed office seeker."

Posted by elswinger | January 16, 2007 3:33 PM
23

If it's slightly off center from the CD, you could call it the Magnetic Pole.

Posted by Gabriel | January 16, 2007 3:34 PM
24

It's the CD. You're in denial.

Posted by The Baron | January 16, 2007 3:39 PM
25

How about "Chihuahualand"?

Posted by Willard Benway | January 16, 2007 3:41 PM
26

you really feel a need to rename the CD there Pizzaro? how many bullshit neighborhoods we need anyway? i'm gonna name my fiefdom WoJack(West of Jack N The Box).

Posted by lar | January 16, 2007 3:47 PM
27

Michael Holden, please check your e-mail.

Posted by Amy Kate | January 16, 2007 3:51 PM
28

Dude! I used to live in WoJack! Those were the days.

Posted by scharrera | January 16, 2007 3:52 PM
29

WoJack! Love it. I suppose it could be "NoJack", since I'm not aware of a Jack N da Box there.

Posted by Thomas | January 16, 2007 3:55 PM
30

The City Clerk's neighborhood atlas calls that area "Mann":
http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/public/nmaps/S/NN-1283S.htm

BTW Union Square is the area at 4th, 2nd Ave Ext, and Jackson, generally north of King Street Station. (Go look.)

Posted by K | January 16, 2007 3:56 PM
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eeek! i live right there. it's the central district, dumbass! and proud of it.

Posted by kelis | January 16, 2007 3:59 PM
32

It's South Capitol Hill; and that's obvious to this long-time Seattleite

Posted by Roger on Beacon Hill | January 16, 2007 4:06 PM
33

I think it's "Minor", which is also part of the "Central Area"

http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/public/nmaps/S/NN-1287S.htm

Posted by josh | January 16, 2007 4:07 PM
34

It's the CD. Everything else is Realtors (trademark). Fuck the Realtors (trademark).

Posted by Fnarf | January 16, 2007 4:11 PM
35

K and Josh, I think you're looking at school enrollment boundaries (Horace Mann, T.T. Minor)...

Posted by MoTown | January 16, 2007 4:13 PM
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Cool people refer to the CD as "The District".

Posted by Sean | January 16, 2007 4:17 PM
37

...Oh, and having lived in a couple of locations in the area: 18th & Madison (technically not Capitol Hill because I couldn't join the Community Council,) and 15th & Spring (Squire Park by just a block) I would suggest Madison Gateway. Especially for the spots on Madison between 15th and 23rd that are changing with new apt, stores (Trader Joe's), and things like the farmer's market.

Posted by MoTown | January 16, 2007 4:17 PM
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...Oh, and having lived in a couple of locations in the area: 18th & Madison (technically not Capitol Hill because I couldn't join the Community Council,) and 15th & Spring (Squire Park by just a block) I would suggest Madison Gateway. Especially for the spots on Madison between 15th and 23rd that are changing with new apt, stores (Trader Joe's), and things like the farmer's market.

Posted by MoTown | January 16, 2007 4:18 PM
39

Sorry for the double post. Errors and delays and not-loading, oh my. =(

Posted by MoTown | January 16, 2007 4:19 PM
40

I'd say So Ma because it's the name of a prescription muscle-relaxant, but The Slog's filter on comments won't let me use the name of a Rx narcotic. So, in honor of Dominic & his housemates, I'm willing to endorse Burner Triangle.

Posted by Ronald | January 16, 2007 4:20 PM
41

For what it's worth, I think of it as the Burner Triangle.

Posted by Leo | January 16, 2007 4:25 PM
42

I hate to hijack this post for my own personal reasons, but i am suffering a similar neighborhood identity crisis! I just moved from behind Coastal Kitchen off 15th (very distinct identity) and now live on Summit north of Belmont. The hood has tons of character but i no nickname. Please help! Top Potville just won't cut it.

Posted by longball | January 16, 2007 4:32 PM
43

While we're at it, can we rename Squire Park? I want my neighborhood to have a better name.

Posted by Gitai | January 16, 2007 4:35 PM
44

"Cool people refer to the CD as "The District"."

Sorry, that has already been taken by the u-district. Quit trying to steal our name you dumb CD crackheads.

Posted by doink | January 16, 2007 4:49 PM
45

After clicking the Google Maps link you gave, then zooming out just a wee bit, the area to me looks like a profile of Lenny from the Simpsons. (his nose formed by Mad & Union, lower face runs down 23rd, lips are E Cherry, 5 o'clock shadow with MLK/23rd/Union/Yesler, chin at Yesler, back of head is Alder & Lake WA Blvd back up to Mad)

Not sure if it is a bigger area than you were thinking of, but I'd call your neighborhood Lenny Leonard.

http://simpsonspedia.net/index.php?title=Lenny_Leonard

Posted by him | January 16, 2007 4:52 PM
46

It's Upper CD.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 16, 2007 5:12 PM
47

thanks for shit-talking my neighborhood [squire park - which is *in* the CD]. it's the best neighborhood, and the oldest, in the city and i'd be quite pleased if people continue not to know about it.

also, your map? that's the CD. deal with it.

Posted by stacy | January 16, 2007 5:14 PM
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Like Upper Volta? Interesting.

Dominic knows he's in the CD. (duh!) He's trying to get more specific because the CD is a big place.

Dominic, I think you just have to do what they do in the U-District and just give your cross streets. For example:

Someone: "Where do you live?"

You: "In the CD"

Someone: "Yeah, but where"

You: "Around 21st and Union"

Fin.

Now if you don't wanna get that specific with a stranger, you can just say "near the Central Cinema".

Posted by ew | January 16, 2007 5:16 PM
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it's the fucking cd, or central area. it's been that way for decades, maybe a century.

Posted by wf | January 16, 2007 5:34 PM
50

Of course it's in the CD, but Judkins Park, Squire Park and Garfield are also in the CD. It wouldn't make sense for them to drop their names. Likewise, it makes sense for this little patch of the unincorporated CD to have its own nickname.

Posted by Dominic Holden | January 16, 2007 6:01 PM
51

What the heck is this?? This is my neighborhood, and the people that live here call it the Central District! There is no debate.

Posted by Hari | January 16, 2007 6:09 PM
52

It is the CD. This is the name of your neighborhood, to call it anything else you are just fooling yourself.

Posted by locals only | January 16, 2007 6:36 PM
53

Cherry Hill. That's what Swedish is calling it, so that must be right.

Posted by catalina vel-duray | January 16, 2007 6:48 PM
54

FFS, Dominic, shut up. The last thing you want to do is give your little slice of Seattle heaven a different and distinct name. The condo developers will get your scent.

Posted by let's get some shoes | January 16, 2007 7:03 PM
55

I've only lived (near) here since 2003 but i started out calling where i live "Capitaal Hill" becasue that was what I could say to people, and they would KNOW approximately where my Neighborhood it.

I think it was technically "Union Hill" neighborhood in the Central district but again, most people just ask for a better idea of where that is and I alwasy had to give a near Capital Hill" reference before they understood.

Going STRICTLY on the people I hang with and trying to let them know where I live - I say it's in the Burner Triangle (which most people now know is in the Capital Hill/Central district fuzzy no-name-zone.

Posted by MadameHeather | January 16, 2007 8:14 PM
56

#55: It's "Capitol Hill". With an "O". It's been four years now, learn it.

Posted by DOUG. | January 16, 2007 8:38 PM
57

Stacy @47

Sorry, but word's already gotten out; I know three other friends who besides myself have all moved into Squire Park in the past two years.

Posted by COMTE | January 16, 2007 10:21 PM
58

I wrote: "Cool people refer to the CD as "The District"."

Doink wrote: "Sorry, that has already been taken by the u-district. Quit trying to steal our name you dumb CD crackheads."

Wrong, your dingy, low rent neighborhood is called the *U* District, and it always have been. That's because without the U, there's absolutely no reason anyone would choose to live there. Spare any change?

When someone says they're from The District, everyone knows what district they're talking about.

Posted by Sean | January 16, 2007 11:29 PM
59

Oh, just call it Blessed Edge and fight with the West Edge for most annoying fake neighborhood name no sane Seattleite will ever call it by.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 17, 2007 12:04 AM
60

Maybe The Gentrifangle.

Posted by Gabriel | January 17, 2007 2:28 AM
61

@Longball #42....


I too, wish that Summit area had a nickname. I sometimes refer to it as the West Slope. Then people know what I am talking about. I heart Summit!

Posted by Monique | January 17, 2007 8:19 AM
62

Motown @35: No, K and Josh are right. The City of Seattle Clerk's office has a neighborhood map, and the area in question already has a name (Minor, or Mann if you go east of 23rd).

The City of Seattle is a different political entity from Seattle Schools. And besides, Seattle School reference area maps are way, way, more complicated than those.

Your real argument is that a lot of these neighborhood names don't correspond with current usage. Squire Park, for example, isn't on the map at all.

For reference, here is the whole city map. Drill down from there.

Posted by Greg Barnes | January 17, 2007 11:50 AM
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Greg,

This map just doesn't make any sense if it's meant to delineate neighborhood boundaries, since it both refers to "neighborhoods" that don't in fact exist (e.g. "Minor" or "Mann") while at the same time omitting long-established neighborhoods such as "Squire Park" and "Mapleleaf" for example.

Posted by COMTE | January 17, 2007 3:12 PM
64

Mannhood.

Posted by DOUG. | January 17, 2007 3:49 PM
65

Techie complaint: a lot of Slog entries lately have used extended characters for apostrophes and quotation marks. Please knock this off: it makes Slog render funny in certain news readers and browsers.

Educated guess: you guys are writing your blog posts in Word, then cutting-and-pasting them, fancy curly quotes and all, onto the web. Please turn off curly-quotes in Word or use a different tool.

Posted by techgrouch | January 17, 2007 4:11 PM
66

Longball @ 42 and Monique @61:

I too live on Summit, and since cellphone service -- no matter the provider -- seems to work just barely or not at all on that street (especially on the stretch between Denny and Roy) I've long referred to it as "The Dead Zone." How's that for a neighborhood name?

Posted by Bradley Steinbacher | January 17, 2007 4:22 PM
67

Monique & Bradley @ #'s 61 and 66 -

The Dead Zone will do nicely! I am so honored to live in the same hood as the Stranger's lone sports fan!

i have friends who call it Scummit, but that really applies more to the part of Summit just off Pine where crack is cheap and teeth are scarce.

Posted by longball | January 17, 2007 5:54 PM
68

Listen folks- if Capitol Hill and the Central District (CD) can have little neighborhoods like Miller Park and Squire Park within them- then we can claim our little piece of turf and name it.

And since I actually live here- then it's my right to give it that name:
Z-hood

Say it now with me: 'zE-'hud

Depending on how you say it, the name can be ghetto, gay...you name it (I just did!). Now go forth and spead the word.

Posted by Toce | January 18, 2007 12:39 AM
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I am new to this neighborhood but not to Seattle.
A little history: Squire Park was the name given to the one small subdivision in the area by a developer around 100 years ago. The limit of that plat on the north is Cherry and on the east is 20th. It is pretty much the whole Swedish/Providence campus and the surrounding homes. It has a nice ring to it but leaves folks wondering where th park is.

Cherry Hill sounds cheery but doesn't burn on the edges like some names suggested. I expect that name would be a developer's delight.

I read a suggestion to rename Garfield High after Jimi Hendrix. That may not happen just because Garfield High is so well-loved, but he was an alumnus of the school and the neighborhood.

How about calling the neighborhood Hendrix? It's a name that burns brightly for a wide range of folks. (Maybe renaming Garfield Playfield and Community Center would get that started.)

Hendrix honors the area's African-American heritage, and has room for all kinds of improvisation. It even entails a little connection with the seedy side, although I make a point not to buy heroin on the street corner, just on principal.

I don't care if people don't know where it is already. A place a needs name that makes sense.

Posted by CentralMark | January 18, 2007 9:52 AM
70

I don't want some dumb hip name for where I live. I want to be left alone and not marketed by realtors, articles in "Hip" magazines, or considered a destination. Been there done that, and it was the death of Belltown as we artists and alternative, queers, people of color, and hipsters found out the hard way back in the late 80's. Let's just stay the CD and be left alone.

Posted by Paula | January 18, 2007 10:28 AM
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I don't want some dumb hip name for where I live. I want to be left alone and not marketed by realtors, articles in "Hip" magazines, or considered a destination. Been there done that, and it was the death of Belltown as we artists and alternative, queers, people of color, and hipsters found out the hard way back in the late 80's. Let's just stay the CD and be left alone.

Posted by Paula | January 18, 2007 10:28 AM
72

We just tell people the CD, by Garfield.

Failing that, we say West Madrona or East Capitol Hill.

Posted by Craigmont | January 18, 2007 12:19 PM
73

I'm about to move into the CD. I don't care what it's called, however, as long as it's not "Burner Triangle". Ick. I'll be surrounded mostly by diverse families, looks like, not Burners.

If it's called "Madison Gateway", does that means it's MadGate? Which is kinda nifty. I have to agree with the Hendrix reference, though, as being the most apt across the board.

Posted by taijimao | January 18, 2007 1:50 PM
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It's definitely the CD. But if you'd like to specify which part, how about 'Garfield'. -The Community Center, the High School...

Posted by kari | January 18, 2007 10:15 PM
75

IT'S THE C.D.
Live with it and learn to love it.

Posted by Eric Downs | January 19, 2007 6:33 PM
76

Thompson's Point.

Posted by Javith | January 20, 2007 1:44 PM

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