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Thursday, August 17, 2006

Yesterday’s Nightlife Task Force Meeting

Posted by on August 17 at 15:05 PM

Erica will post a lengthier hit later, but I wanted to make a basic observation about yesterday’s Nightlife Task Force meeting at city hall, where task force members like club owner Jerry Eberard (Neumo’s) and community members (DSA’s Kate Jonas) squared off with the mayor’s point man on the issue, Jordan Royer, as they went over the mayor’s draft legislation.

(Here’s Erica’s original article on Nickels’s condescending draft legislation.)

My observation of the meeting is this: Royer, and by implication the mayor’s office, has not done their homework on this issue. First of all, the meeting shambled for a good twenty minutes, before a frustrated Eberard took over from Royer and started going through the legislation point by point. Up until then, Royer was awkwardly trying to talk around the substantive issues.

However, after Eberard took over, the task force members started absolutely grilling Royer on the wisdom or legitimacy of all the new regs the mayor is proposing, including hilariously subjective noise guidelines based on a “plainly audible” noise. Royer’s consistent unhelpful response was something like: “we’ll have to discuss that more…”

Royer’s least impressive moment was when Jeff Steichen from the Showbox raised questions about the mayor’s demand that a phone is always staffed at clubs during business hours—so they can field noise complaints. Steichen raised all sorts of practical problems with the requirement, and Royer said: “Well, that’s the way they do it in San Francisco.” (That was another one of Royer’s repetitive rejoinders.) Steichen persisted: “Well, exactly how does it work in S.F.?” Royer didn’t know, and said he’d call some S.F. clubs to find out. “Good luck getting them to answer the phone,” Steichen quipped.

But seriously, it’s unacceptable that Royer hadn’t even done the basic research into the S.F. laws that the new regs are supposedly based on, and that he couldn’t even explain the proposals to the club owners on the task force. Totally sloppy. Totally embarrassing (as the whole meeting was). And it sends an insulting message to the club owners that Team Nickels doesn’t feel accountable to the task force.

Which they don’t.

Do your homework next time.


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Yeah, especially with Steichen in the room. He's a smart old cat and will nail you to the wall in a heartbeat. I wish I had witnessed that.

For the love of god, please close the bold tag.

Thank you.

I thought the proposal was dead on arrival?

I hear Royer is not a very smart man. Maybe it's more about a lack of intelligence than a lack of homework. The Mayor seems to be bumbling this one. Very Bush-esque of him.

Josh -
Did you do YOUR homework? The revised wording proposed by the task force regarding the "hilariously subjective noise guidelines" read:
"'Sound Violation' means that amplified sound emanating from the Premises is plainly audible to a person of normal hearing inside a residence for a continuous period of twenty seconds or longer. In making such determination, all windows and doors to the residence must be closed and the residence must be in compliance with current building codes regarding insulation and glazing."

I don't understand how the task force would be grilling Royer over the subjectivity of the standard it was their own suggestion?!

From the reports I recieved, the meeting was a real snooze-fest. The only substantive issues still in question being the very definition of a licensee, the amount of oversight granted to the advisory board and a handful of minor operating standards (like whether or not clubs need to have a manned phoned to field potential complaints).

While I agree that having an extra phone line in a club is fairly ridiculous - but is this really the type of regulation that will "kill" nightlife in Seattle?

I just moved here from Houston and love the city and my new condo. I've had some luck with J-Date too! But I don't like all the noise from the nightclubs below my condo. We need tight regulations to keep property values high downtown. That's the only way strangers to this town are going to move here and pay to dollar for condos.

Who cares what San Francisco does? Fuck them. Move there if you like it so fucking much.

Can't we just trade Mayors, instead?

Clubber,
I've read the proposed ordinance & the task force's red-lined version.
The mayor, not the task force, recommended the vague new noise standard.
I was at the meeting. The club owners grilled Royer.
The meeting was not a snooze. It was civil, but it was charged with big disagreements.
Royer had not done his homework. As I said, he couldn't even describe how the mayor's recommendations were supposed to work, other than to say, "That's how it's done in S.F."

Josh -
So you're saying that what I wrote above is not directly from the task force recommendation? I don't care who originally suggested the standard, it was the task force that recommended the above language (as everyone can now see from Erica's scan of their redline).

YOU may have a problem with the standard being too vague, but the task force clearly did not and I find it highly unlikely that they "grilled" Royer on the issue.

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