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Monday, May 22, 2006

Re: Bigoted in Belltown

Posted by on May 22 at 10:48 AM

Josh reports that a congregant at the City Church in Belltown was “outraged” and “hung her head in shame” when her pastors made a pitch against gay marriage and passed out Tim Eyman’s anti-gay marriage petition in church this Sunday.

Wanting to find out more about how this congregant could have been so misled about what her church really believes, I took a quick look at City Church’s web site, which had this to say about the church’s beliefs:

We believe in the sanctity of marriage as established by the Holy Scriptures and that God created marriage and that the only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2-3; I Corinthians 7:10-11; Ephesians 5:22-33).

So a congregant at a conservative, evangelical megachurch was outraged that their conservative, evangelical pastor made a pitch in church for a conservative, evangelical belief that’s explicitly stated in the church’s mission statement.

Christians need to pay more attention to what their churches really teach, and less attention to the stylistic trappings (modern music, big-screen TVs, rock-club-style sanctuaries) that draw young people in.

For more on City Church’s beliefs (which include the assertion that the Scriptures are “infallibly and uniquely authoritative and free from error of any sort in all matters with which they deal, including scientific and historical,” and the belief in “the full historicity and perspicuity of the Biblical record of primeval history, including the literal existence of Adam and Eve as the progenitors of all people,” go here.


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It's not an anti-gay marriage petition. It's an anti .... anti-discrimination petition.

The main point of my post, however, was that we tend to think the anti-gay rights movement is in the exurbs. I wanted to let people know that there's some demagoguery going on in urbane Bell Town too.

hey i'm commiting treason full leaked documents on ATT/NSA here:

http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf

and it's not just 'rock-styled sanctuaries', it's actual Seattle rock bands and labels, distributors, radio stations, etc, promoting the recruitment of our city's youth into these far right christian cults. Erica - you should write about THAT!

Hm. I agree with Meinert—so rare, we should pause on to mark the moment.

'morning Dan. It's like a bright sunny day when we agree. So let's do some damage. An expose on the use of Seatte's music scene to recruit Seattle's youth into a christian cult rabidly oppossed to progessive values and civil rights would be the perfect article for the Stranger!

PS - I just got back from a weekend in South Dakota. Made me think of the Stranger a lot. So many of the farmers I hung with hate George Bush, but none of them are active in getting Dems elected because the Dems don't reach out to them. Even the 80 year old catholic rancher-korean war vet I hung hates the Bushman. But driving down the road I only saw signs about banning abortion. blah, blah, blah....sorry to change the subject. stop the cults!

Seattle's conservative Jews are also working on the gay marraige issue.


From Mercer Island Rabbi Daniel Lapin's website-


A review of traditional Judaism’s opposition, to homosexuality and most importantly its public sanction with the legal recognition of same-sex marriage, will highlight the fallacies many well-meaning people, Jew and non-Jew, have apparently accepted.[5] (Judaism will guide this discussion, although the general ideas should be in agreement with traditional Christianity.)


To have compassion and tolerance for all of God’s children is admirable and a mitzvah (commandment) under Jewish law, but there is no way Jewish law and tradition can be perverted to endorse and publicly sanction same-sex marriage.


The “Instruction Manual” is clear and unequivocal. “You shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination.”


Has anyone seen spotted the Eyman petitions at Seattle area Temples?

It bears remembering that the good Rabbi's "Instruction Manual" is 'clear and uequivocal' about shrimp cocktails and clam chowder, too: "Abomination."

Also: has anyone munched down lately on those Cranky-Desert god approved grasshoppers, katydids and crickets...?

Ah, Leviticus - a conservative cherry-picker's dream.

I hate Christians!

Well, I, for one, am SHOCKED to hear that Christian mega-churches might be trying to discriminate against people with highly refined PR! Shocked, I say.

As staunch defenders of equality and progressivism, maybe this year you'll make a move to actually do something to stand up to the Happy-Clappy Bigots when they march onto the middle of the UW campus and throw a fucking rock concert.

In other words: yeah, these people are scary. Perhaps its time to do something about them, rather than ignoring them, eh?

So, E.C.B., is it your job to follow Feit around and fact-check him or is it just a hobby?

Josh didn't get his facts wrong. I was expressing my frustration at the City Church member's naivete about the church's beliefs, not Josh's.

incest father and daughter with mother and son!

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