I find that post of a swastika really offensive. I'm going to boycott your paper.

'They’re showing up in notably liberal venues not to recruit, but to make their presence known' - yeah, in a place where they know they're not gonna get their asses whipped. I'd love to see them 'make their presence known' in Oakland one of these days.

oh, if only they showed up in the CD, say outside of Garlfield. I'm sure THAT would have been fun.

They appear to be W supporters, as well.

The CD ( caucasian district) stopped being the hood a looooooooooong time ago; along with Columbia City and parts of the Rainier Valley. You didnt get the memo? I agree, east Oakland is still the hood.

But what r you guys implying... that people in the hood are savages? That they will automatically bust a cap, because some bald white people and their unattractive gf's are protesting? Assuming shit, are we?

To quote the great Ice Cube, yall better "chickity-check yo self before you wreck yo self

I wish I had seen them. I would have egged them on. SPLAT!!

I agree they have the right to spew ignorant asshatery on the street, but they shoul get spit on at the very least.

I believe Sea 98104 was inferring that our fine Afrocentric brothers are nowhere near as spineless milquetoast as the Bob Dobalinas in in Frellard. (or most of this Homogenized "city")

Does anyone have some information on that w flag to the left? I've seen that before.

Rain Monkey, it's the flag of the World Church of the Creator Creativity Movement, or "Creativity Movement."

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a great resource for keeping tabs on these fucks.

It happened about 25 years ago. The incident was when the ACLU defended the rights of a group of American Nazis to march through Sokie (sic) Illinois, home at that time, to many survivors of the Holocaust.
So having these people on the streets, waving their banners and such, is perhaps diversity at its worst. I don't think anyone in Seattle has heard the last of these groups. While they may seem like a clown act, they should be taken seriously and approached with caution - if at all.
Keith Gilbert was an apartment manager in the Roosevelt district, arrested by the FBI last year who was featured in the book "In God's Country: the militia movement in the Pacific Northwest." He ran ramshod over the tenants in those ratty old houses owned by the guys who hold forth in that equally ratty old hardware store, just north of NE 65th street and 15th Avenue NE.
Gilbert was such an unbridled nutcase that even the old Ayrian Nation folks kicked him out of their (former) operation in Couer d'Alene ID.
Gilbert was selling guns illegally - a variety of weapons including assault rifles - and likely the folks pictured in the photos taken in Fremont are similarly equipped.
It is one thing to be courageous. However, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour. Don't shout at these folks. I believe the best thing to do, at this point, is try to ignore them. They won't go away. But if they get out of hand, leave it to the Seattle police. (Admittedly, not a lot of help in many situations, since Hizzoner cut their ranks so much.)

wow, I had a terrible experience at that hardware store trying to rent a uhaul, 8 months pregnant and young looking. He turned us away even though he had plenty of trucks and we had a reservation. He was listening to rush limbaugh in the background, evil fuck. He said we look like the kind of people who break contracts. I just can't pass up a chance to tell that story.

Wasn't Ice Cube merely paraphrasing Das EFX? (See, Das? German? Get it?!)

Also, seeing violent totalitarian-loving d-bags marching in the shadow of Lenin's statue seems just about right.

But let's not get into the whole conversation about the lie of socialism.

I dont like them anymore than i do Muslim fascists.I'm sick of people who are fascist nomatter what color.As a soldier who fought to keep y'all free from this crap i'm surprised while i'm over there in the middle east fighting fasscists, these punk nazis guys are still around.what have you been doing seattle sleeping comfortably numb?????????????????????

And I dont particulary care for communism either

you wanna know what its like to live in a socialist communist lifestyle with a twinge of mafiosa like hiarchy------join the military.

Paul Hathwell: I'm always amazed at the military lifers in Kitsap County who go on and on about how the "Free Market" will set us free but shop at the Navy commissary, see the doctor at the VA, and get a monthly check for life after retiring at 38.

David Summerland: Thanks for the info about that symbol. I think I've seen it here in Kitsap County, which has a very active Klan/Nazi/White militia.

Meanwhile, environmentalists remain the #1 domestic terrorism threat. My guess is that Karl Rove has instructed Homeland Security to keep the Right-Wing nutjobs out of the news and highlight the Left-Wing nutjobs.

I hope the nazis in kitsap as you so say will allow me and my black family to join.Or should i pretend i'm white and like that kid in Europa Europa hide my big black uncurcumsized penis.Yes its black.And my Father would kill me for being a nazi and I respect him and my white mom for getting it on back in the 50s and 60s way before it was the norm..Nazis and Black muslims dont care for race mixing and I dont like either of them.
as for my being in the military and retiring---I earned it as I'm sure the half thousand or so Immigrants who share college with you are looking to fill a succesfulm education and Uw students get bombarded by a communist anti american stance in seattle.I can fight the nazis here in kitsap-----You better get off your ass and deal with the real fact that you city people have Anarchy waiting to rear its ugly head---and it isn't just nazis---its your whole damn city.--smoke a bowl for me hippie

Rain Monkey, it looks like the SPLC knows about National Alliance activities in your area, but not Creativity Movement activities. The closest Creativity Movement enclaves are listed in Southwest Washington.

I believe it is critical to track the course of these movements because the ideologies, although similar, tend to attract identifiable strains of young, violent, troubled, isolated males.

You might consider reporting any activities you notice in your area to the SPLC hatewatch group. The SPLC also is worthy for donations, for those of us affluent enough to spread our wealth here or there.

oh yeah wanna buy some tshirts

I was being sarcastic when i say i wanted to join.though i could easily pretend since i am half icelandic and german the fools would not know i'm half black and would not suspect a gorilla in their midst.Then i would systematecilly destroy em from within as that seems the only way to take out an orginization these days.
Anyway I'm done fighting till the time comes i have too.While we over there fighting in Iraq you civilians sit on your ass and expect the ACLU to save you from the bad guys.Wakeup fools ACLU are nothing but communist who want society to crumble in a race war and political anarchy to prevail at the expense of your freedoms.hope sitting on your asses was worth it .Christ we have communist russians getting rid of the statue of lenin and the berlin wall destroyed so as to have some Neo-Hippies who dont know jack of European and Russian history install a statue of Lenin in fremont seattle.Only Here in America folks.jeesh.In Kitsap county Native americans have Totem poles all over around here.Thats fine with me.Thats true American spirit there.In contrast to you communist loving seattlites so dont be dissin kitsap county.

Maybe somebody who was there can explain to me why there weren't any cops in that picture. A whole friggin army of blue uniforms could really give Seattlites a false sense of security when racists like these show up. I guess just another example of poor crowd control.

As disgusting as I might find Nazis, Skinheads and all they seem to represent and espouse, I am constrained to agree with the late Justice William O. Douglas:
"The liberties of none are safe unless the liberties of all are protected."
The current "Shrub" administration has totally forgotten this very important point, but I (as a card carrying member of the far left and a gay Jew, no less) refuse to silence freedom of speech - no matter how abhorent. To add another famous quote:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire

To "ICETRAY":

Here are some more lyrics for you.

--
Verse One: Ice Cube

Ease back white bitch, I don't play that
Just because I got on my L.A. hat
Stalkin' walking in my big black boots
Is my jingle, now you want Mandingo
Big, black and handsome
I should hold your devil ass for ransome
Sorta like Patty Herst, but I'll burst first bitch
And you know what's worse
I'm coming from the land where the choppers roam
So phuck you bitch and your Coppertone
Stringy hair - no derrier - frontin' and fakin' with your silicone pair
Do I wanna phuck? Not hardly
That's kinda like Barbie phuckin' Bob Marley
It ain't gonna happen, I keep rappin'
Muthaphuck Teniell, but see I'm the Captain of this ship
And I'm true to the game
Y'all all look the same
Standin' by my backstage door, hopin' that'll switch
Spread out you little cave bitch

Verse Two: Ice Cube

Why everytime we get famous
You wanna play us like Andy and Amos?
The devil sent you to try and tame us
But you can't tame me, with no bitch named Amy
Lookin' for the dark meat
But ho, I ain't tryin' to go out like Barkely
Cuz everytime I turn on the TV
I see several brothers with she-devils
Smilin' cuz you out on a date
But sooner or later, the bitch'll yell rape
Soon as daddy found out you a jigaboo
He'll kill like he did Emmitt Till
Yah, he tried to kick bass
But the bitch probably threw it in his face
Sargent Bale ain't nothin' but a trick
Nasty as hell, stanky little cave bitch

Verse Three:

Now don't think that I hate you
Cuz I won't date you, bitch I gotta stay true
You can be a fan, but don't expand
And try to get my dick in your hand
You better run to the minute man
Pale as snow, so act like y'know
Cuz if I slap it, flip it, and rub it like that
Yeah, it gotta be black
Plus yo ass too flat
I need a butt big enough that can clap
Rat-a-tat-tat
You can't get mine ho
I'd rather phuck an albino
Atleast I know, she's comin' from the Nubian
And not the Ku Klux Klan that you be in
And I don't give a fuck if your family is rich
You're still a little cave bitch
--

boy, talk about racist garbage, there is more than one point of view but yours seems to be the only one you go by. There is some basis for all the hate that goes on, on both sides. But I guess yours is the only one that counts. We should make some effort to bring both sides to the table and find the real reson so much hate goes on.

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