Yes, he's said some stupid stuff. But there's not a moment in that commercial that comes close to the ineptitude of his opponent.

At least he can form a coherent sentence.

Talk about the wrong time to lower expectations of Biden. Clearly, this shows that Senator McCain doesn't understand the difference between a tactic and a strategy. A little naivete, there I think.

Did anyone catch Steve Inskeep's interview with McCain for NPR yesterday?

Inskeep: Senator, one other thing I want to ask about. You wrote a few years ago an acclaimed memoir called Worth the Fighting For. And among other things, you talked about the 2000 presidential campaign, where it got really brutal, and how you had to struggle to do the work of politics and still keep your personal honor. And you said that you sometimes didn't meet your own high standards. You were very candid. Now that you're in the middle of this brutal general election campaign, with negative ads going back and forth, how do you balance honor and winning?

McCain: By running an honorable campaign. And I was specifically talking in my book about the Confederate flag in the state of South Carolina. Overall, I'm very proud of the campaign we ran in 2000. I'm very proud of this campaign. I'm proud of the support we have across the country. I've always put my country first, and that's my record, and I'm very proud to do that.

Let us give the Arizona senator the benefit of the doubt on that answer, and consider what he considers "honorable".

I love that the McCain campaign thinks people are wondering about the next thing to come out of BIDEN'S mouth. There's only one reason people are watching tonight's debate and it ain't him.

At least the announcer isn't that horrible woman who always sounds constipated/undermedicated.

What's with the Larry David music? I thought Biden was Catholic.

"Sure Sarah Palin is dumb as a stump. But look over there. Biden says some stupid stuff too. So there."

I like Joe Biden. He's a regular--well--Joe, and I mean that as a compliment. I've followed his career for many years, and he has a sense of humour. I think he'd be the first to smile at it, frankly. It's charming and amusing, and beats referring to him by genital references or saying he "ought to be raped by black thugs."

PS--Re the inclusion of Biden's complimantary reference to Hillary, I'm still wondering, though, why she hasn't gotten the "X" on her face in the header here, like all the others who've dropped out. It tempts one to wonder if she's *really* out ... ? Anyone?

At least he doesn't pile on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.

@10 ... thanks.

A short history of liberal and Democratic discourse:

1933: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

1963: "Ich bin ein Berliner!"

1984: "Where's the beef?"

1998: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

2008: "At least he doesn't pile on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."

At this rate of devolution--in another decade--to express their political ideas, most liberals will be reduced to drawing crayon pictures of scary monsters and phalluses, festooned with Mr. Yuk stickers.

@11: except in your last example, the quote came from the Republican leader. It's not really the same thing, is it?

John McCain is indeed a Republican; that doesn't automatically make him a conservative. Nor am I going to defend him if he says and does things that are indefensible. He's another moderate liberal in the GWB mold--just less liberal than Mr Obama. It did seem to me, however, that #10 picked up and used the quote with some delight, if not outright schadenfreude.