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Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Youth Pastor Watch

posted by on August 13 at 14:00 PM

Oregon:

A former teacher at the North Coast Christian School in Hammond has been accused of having sex with a 15-year-old student.

Warrenton Police officers arrested Jeremiah Gunner Scott, 26, of Warrenton. He was also a youth pastor for Warrenton First Baptist Church.

Scott is charged with eight counts of third-degree rape, a felony, and one count each of third-degree sodomy, a felony, contributing to the sexual delinquency of a minor and sexual misconduct.

I’m confused: The Supreme Court declared anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional—so how can sodomy be a felony? With at least three degrees? I mean, if the dude fucked the 15 year-old, then he’s guilty of statutory rape, for sure. But how can he be found convicted for sodomy when sodomy isn’t a crime anymore, per the Supreme Court. Any lawyers out there with all the answers?

And, again, parents that let their kids hang out in churches are fucking crazy. Might as well dip ‘em in fish guts and toss them into shark-infested waters.

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Lawrence v. Texas involved consenting adults. An adult having sex with a child will not have the same substantive due process rights as an adult having sex with another consenting adult. I haven't seen the state statute at issue, but as applied to an adult having sex with a child, Lawrence v. Texas is not controlling.

Posted by Lawyer | August 13, 2008 2:24 PM
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Posted by Are your tats fading? | August 13, 2008 2:28 PM
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Posted by Are your tats fading? | August 13, 2008 2:29 PM
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Maybe they should dip 'em in fish guts before sending them to church.

Posted by Fnarf | August 13, 2008 2:29 PM
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Dan! Is it not time to compile all these youth pastor updates and release them as a book??? Maybe with some new writing in between and some follow-up on some of these and some statistics?

Posted by teve | August 13, 2008 2:30 PM
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oregon's sodomy statute only covers situations where the victim did not give valid consent. it's basically the rape statute, but for "deviate sexual intercourse" instead of just plain old "sexual intercourse."
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/163.html

Posted by jon c | August 13, 2008 2:44 PM
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Laws are not automatically taken off the books even if they are unconstitutional, Washington has a statute that criminalizes flag burning even though that law is unconstitutional.

RCW 9.86.030

Posted by vooodooo84 | August 13, 2008 2:46 PM
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sodomy is always listed separately, as in a list of rape offenses when you read news stories, i.e.: one count of sodomy, two counts of forced oral copulation, one count of battery, etc. consensually not illegal, but as an act of rape they are all counted individually as criminal actions, to add up to an appropriate sentence, supposedly.

Posted by ellarosa | August 13, 2008 2:46 PM
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I am not sure what the point of these posts are, and what the analogy to shark attacks is supposed to show. I thought you were parodying the media's coverage of shark attacks, e.g., lots of hysteria, lots of gory details, lots of anecdotal stories, but no actual data nor level-headed risk assesment. However, this "pastor watch" seems to have assumed a life of its own and become identical to what you were parodying in the first place. If anecdotal evidence of shark attacks does not convince you that shark attacks are a serious problem, then anecdotal evidence of "pastor attacks" should not convince you that "pastor attacks" are a problem.

Posted by stats | August 13, 2008 2:56 PM
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Yes, it is horrifying that a Youth Pastor was also a child molestor.

But he molested a student...who he met at a school. That seems a far cry from saying the church was that dangerous. If he was successfully grooming victims at church, he wouldn't need to teach, right?

The thing about Christian Schools (and youth pastors, of course) is that they, unlike public schools, don't have unions. Teachers Unions establish protocol and means for teacher investigation of allegations and thus there are more limits to what ends up in the news.

Posted by Mr. Joshua | August 13, 2008 3:05 PM
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though the site is having trouble at present, schools wouldn't seem to be much safer:
http://www.badbadteacher.com/

Posted by infrequent | August 13, 2008 3:23 PM
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jon c. was right: only consensual sodomy was decriminalized. The rest was left in the statute books.

Posted by per os et per anum | August 13, 2008 5:07 PM
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Dan, I agree with @5 please list these as a book or at least something I can copy and paste all at once to show my youth pastor.

Posted by Fly-Over Illinois | August 13, 2008 5:13 PM
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Dan, it's the 69th YPW!!! Congrats :)

Posted by apres_moi | August 13, 2008 5:18 PM
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Posted by Self-Hating Hipster | August 13, 2008 6:52 PM
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stats @ 9 - unless I'm wrong, the primary aim of YPW was never meant to be a parody of media hysteria (over shark attacks??). It is really about pointing out the hypocrisy of the Christian claims to some higher morality.

And it's a point well made. Bring out the book, Dan!

Posted by Bento | August 13, 2008 8:52 PM
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At crux in Lawrence v. Texas was that the anti-sodomy laws targeted homosexuals only. That was found to be in violation of equal protection. What went unanswered was whether the state could have anti-sodomy laws on the books that applied to everyone.

Posted by gex | August 14, 2008 10:47 AM

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