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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

No Biden Bounce

posted by on August 26 at 15:01 PM

McCain creeps ahead in Gallup poll.

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Sometimes I think you'd rather be right about something than for things to get better.

Posted by Jay | August 26, 2008 3:06 PM

There was never supposed to be a Biden bounce. You only announce something like that on a Saturday if you don't want publicity. What you should be scared about not happening is a fall in McCain's numbers if Biden doesn't go for the kneecaps.

Posted by karst | August 26, 2008 3:06 PM

I'm not happy about this. Just panicked.

Posted by Dan Savage | August 26, 2008 3:08 PM

And I didn't say Biden would be good or bad, only that I didn't think he would be the VP pick.

Posted by Dan Savage | August 26, 2008 3:08 PM

Obama should have picked Gore, It would give Americans a chance to try to "redo" the 2000 election, at least to a degree. Or maybe he should have picked Hillary? Ugh, maybe not

Posted by Whitworth Fag | August 26, 2008 3:16 PM

You also misspelled Gallup.

Posted by karst | August 26, 2008 3:16 PM

On November 4 America will answer a question: Am I racist or do I want hope? I think we know the answer to that.

Worry if Obama does not get at least a 10 point bump after the convention. If he doesn't, we are getting McCain.

Posted by Just Me | August 26, 2008 3:19 PM

I'm chalking it up to the fact that for most voters (non-political junkie types), the name Biden is almost as much of an unknown as Obama was. Now, if the Obama campaign had found a suitable Kennedy as a VP, I would have been astonished if there were no immediate bounce in the polls.

Posted by dbell | August 26, 2008 3:19 PM

Doh! Fixed.

Posted by Dan Savage | August 26, 2008 3:20 PM

I ran voter registration drives for the New Voter's Project in 2006. The democratic primary(and in Washington,the caucas) turn outs were high across the board. Those are new voters. The polls only poll, "likely voters". New voters are not "likely voters". They also do not call cell phones for the polls, so the younger demographic that increasingly only have a cell phone are also being ignored.

The hope is that the huge primary turnout will lead to a huge turnout on election day(and none of the voting places are set up to handle that kind of traffic), and those unaccounted voters are more likely to be Obama supporters.

Posted by Jonny H | August 26, 2008 3:21 PM

I don't think the bounce was ever supposed to come from Biden being announced...

I think it will come in the next few weeks, when Biden starts giving Republicans the ass pummeling they so richly deserve.

Posted by Joey the Girl | August 26, 2008 3:25 PM


Posted by I love me. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much! | August 26, 2008 3:30 PM

Biden was a choice of a man who is confident he will need a DC insider to help him GOVERN.

And I applaud that choice.

Posted by max solomon | August 26, 2008 3:32 PM

It is waaaaaay too early to even be concerned about these polls. We've got over two months until Election Day. Biden will prove to be an effective VP choice, and Obama is gonna do some big things tomorrow.

Don't worry too much yet, Dan.

Posted by kerri harrop | August 26, 2008 3:35 PM

PSH, kerri, gurl, you can take that to the bank. THE BLOOD BANK!


Posted by I love me. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much! | August 26, 2008 3:42 PM

@10--the cell phone theory is a myth. polling groups have been accounting for cell phone usuage for years now when conducting polls. sorry to burst your bubble.

Posted by things are getting grim | August 26, 2008 3:44 PM

It doesn't matter anyways, we really don't have a say at all. The assholes in the flyover area of the country are such ignorant rednecks that we're going to be stuck with this asshole McCain and Mittens Romney for four years of shit. I'm sick to my stomach about it. UGH!

Posted by JJ | August 26, 2008 3:47 PM

@17: You could always volunteer or donate to the cause.

Posted by Ziggity | August 26, 2008 3:51 PM

Will the concern troll (PC/I love me/clintonsarmy/things are getting grim, Nobama, Odrama, etc etc etc etc) finally go away when Obama (and the Democratic Party) wins in a blowout?

Posted by Just Sayin' | August 26, 2008 3:52 PM

@7 making excuses for losing already? How do we win is more like it. Where is your plan for winning?

@2 right because polls showed HRC gave Obama a 6 poitn bounce immediately and the whole reason to pick Biden is he's not HRC, who is too strong a rival to have so close by.

@5 Gore not available any other futile ideas?
@8 duh there was a well known name as you know. See above.

@10. Keep hoping. Hope is a reat plan!

@11 You "think" so? Keep on wishin'

@14 What, worry? Gulp. gulp, gulp gulp. Why yes just believing makes it so!! They proved that in the Law of Attraction! Everyone who says Obama won't win is making him not win just by thinking that way! Our brain thoughts spread to the swing voters in Youngstown and Scranton, you see? So: think victory! Wee-hee.

Posted by PC | August 26, 2008 3:54 PM

@16 - How can they "account for" cell phones when they're not polling them? Estimating, sure, but based on what data? It just doesn't wash.

Posted by DavidG | August 26, 2008 4:06 PM

@20 Bullshit. No candidate can energize the Republican base like Hillary. She might have given us that bump now but increased Rep turnout in Nov would have made it worthless. And if all you PUMA's out there don't get off your ass and vote then you deserve the back alley abortions you're going to get.

Posted by karst | August 26, 2008 4:22 PM

There's trampoline bounces, then there's off-the-high-board bounces, and then there's the Biden bounce ... an "innie", not an "outie".

And this thread must be a contender for some kind of record in the category of politically ignorant wishful thinking.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | August 26, 2008 4:46 PM


Yeah I understand about donating and such, but the $5 I can afford really hasn't had the effect I wanted it to. It's come down to my harassing everyone one I know in those states with information and hopefully the tools to make a better decision come November. My big problem is though, the fact that I'm really starting to believe my nutty "left-wing" friends when it comes down to election fraud and corruption. I'm beyond convinced that this government do evil and I think 2000 and 2004 are perfect examples of it. Say la vie.

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Posted by Michelle Key | August 26, 2008 7:54 PM

I'm kinda starting to worry about this one. Feels like we're in for a repeat of 88.

Posted by Ferin | August 27, 2008 8:59 PM

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