what, where or when is a 'woman's prime'?

I don't care for wattles on either sex.

Degas was notoriously misogynistic. Also, creepy. Check out his painting "the rape". Most of his paintings are of women, he was fairly obsessed I would say.

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Someday, I'd love to see someone open the Erica C. Barnett Museum of Art. Maybe you could be a curator, Kyleen.

Much like Hitler's traveling "Entartete Kunst" exhibit, we could have a reinterpretation of paintings through a radical seperatist lense, with all the attendant tut-tutting and such on the cards next to each work.

The museum shop could sell sterling silver castration shears and tea cozies shaped like Andrea Dworkin.

Why do you label this poor fact "dumb"?

I find it interesting in that we all feel a horror for the necks and shoulders of women past their prime but Degas, god rest his soul, felt a "particular" horror. It piques my curiosity to learn just how particular his particular horror was.

That would be an interesting museum, at least. And the crowd it would draw, oh my.

I guess what I was getting at is something like this isn't too much of a surprise for Degas. As his interesting relationship with women has been historically noted.

i feel that same particular horror upon seeing old lady hands on the bus.

ghaggghhhh1hh1!! i don't want to get old.

A man was misogynistic in the 19th century?

Oh my God.

8, i would surmise that levels of misogyny were roughly the same in the 19th century as they are now, but sexism levels were much higher.

and necks and shoulders were all you could see of older women's bodies in his day (they weren't showing off their breasts after "a certain age"), so it's not surprising that he would only notice the differences in those areas.