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Everything is an elaborate ploy to make Obama look bad.

Posted by Mr. Poe | May 2, 2008 11:25 AM
2

Shouldn't Erica's post below also be called out as the hoax that it is. The same footage, from the side, showed Obama was scratching his face with multiple fingers.

Posted by Mike in Iowa | May 2, 2008 11:25 AM
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I can't believe we had a bunch of arguments about how many fingers the man scratched his face with.

And then I can't believe that a Real News Editor!!! discovered it just today and thought it was actual news.

Posted by tsm | May 2, 2008 11:34 AM
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I still buy it. Why was he whispering it as an aside if he was saying "How would you like to be in the White House right now?" Why did he curse audibly and then look up at the camera and apologize, and then continue in a much lower tone. Look, there are a lot of people who helped in the civil rights movement and were not racist and would never call a black person that word. But their contempt for poor white trash is real, and I have no problem imagining this guy calling Hoosiers that.

Posted by Ryno | May 2, 2008 11:51 AM
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Another point I'd make as a close reading of the clip. The reaction on Carville and Stephanopoulos's faces seems to be in line with what I've seen when you hear someone utter something beneath contempt, but aren't in the mood to be confrontational. That, or they're just absorbed in the numbers.

Posted by Ryno | May 2, 2008 11:55 AM
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@4-agreed. plus he still said indiana residents are shit. that was audible. anyway, why would this be on obama's head? couldnt some group who just doesnt like hrc release this w/out the mind of slandering obama?

Posted by henry o henry | May 2, 2008 12:00 PM
7

Everybody knows that Osama is a lying, sack-o'-shit scumbag, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.

Posted by Nobody in Particular | May 2, 2008 12:04 PM
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Apparently both the director and the editor say it's a fake. So @4 this means that in some vault somewhere there exists: original footage, shot lists, transcriptions, paper edits, rough cuts, copious editing notes, et cetera. All pointing to the original dialog, proving exactly what was said. Short of real ministry of truth expertise, You couldn't convincingly fake all this documentation if you wanted to, especially with a famous documentary filmmaker.

Posted by former editor | May 2, 2008 12:20 PM
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Who you gonna believe - your eyes & ears or the word of a guy who made stultifying concert films like "Jimi Plays Yahtzee"?

Posted by E | May 2, 2008 1:22 PM
10

It's sad how desperate the Hils backers are ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 2, 2008 1:26 PM
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Oh no! Obama AND Clinton supporters have penetrated my aluminum foil cap!

Posted by umvue | May 2, 2008 1:54 PM
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Somewhere on youtube I watched the much longer original version. In it it is clear that Kantor is calling the pollsters shit, not the people of Indiana. It is also clear that he's commenting on how upset the Whitehouse will be at how well Perot did when he says, how would you like to be in the Whitehouse tonight.

Don't misunderstand me, James Caravelle is a scumbag- Dismissing Paula Jones as what you get when you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park (After Monica can anyone doubt her story?) Stephanopolis is clearly unethical for carrying on as an "objective" newsman while interacting with the wife of his buddy, but in this is made up and whoever did it did not do Obama any favors.

Posted by Mikeblanco | May 2, 2008 2:06 PM

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