Slog - Comments on Today in Campaign Hoaxes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes That video linked in the Morning News is a fake. From the Huffington Post: Mickey Kantor, who served as campaign chairman during Clinton's 1992 run for the White House and says he has offered help and advice to Sen. Clinton, insisted that the tape was a fraud and that he was exploring legal steps against the individual who posted it online. "I've never used that word in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever," an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent's work fighting for civil rights. "I have listened to [the video] and so... Copyright 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:09:44 -0800 Fri, 02 May 2008 14:06:49 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe Everything is an elaborate ploy to make Obama look bad.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011582 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011582 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:25:25 -0800 Comment by Mike in Iowa Shouldn't Erica's post below also be called out as the hoax that it is. The same footage, from the side, showed Obama was scratching his face with multiple fingers.

]]> Mike in Iowa http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011584 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011584 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:25:48 -0800 Comment by tsm I can't believe we had a bunch of arguments about how many fingers the man scratched his face with.

And then I can't believe that a Real News Editor!!! discovered it just today and thought it was actual news.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011660 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011660 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:34:54 -0800 Comment by Ryno I still buy it. Why was he whispering it as an aside if he was saying "How would you like to be in the White House right now?" Why did he curse audibly and then look up at the camera and apologize, and then continue in a much lower tone. Look, there are a lot of people who helped in the civil rights movement and were not racist and would never call a black person that word. But their contempt for poor white trash is real, and I have no problem imagining this guy calling Hoosiers that.

]]> Ryno http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011815 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011815 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:51:37 -0800 Comment by Ryno Another point I'd make as a close reading of the clip. The reaction on Carville and Stephanopoulos's faces seems to be in line with what I've seen when you hear someone utter something beneath contempt, but aren't in the mood to be confrontational. That, or they're just absorbed in the numbers.

]]> Ryno http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011860 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011860 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:55:57 -0800 Comment by henry o henry @4-agreed. plus he still said indiana residents are shit. that was audible. anyway, why would this be on obama's head? couldnt some group who just doesnt like hrc release this w/out the mind of slandering obama?

]]> henry o henry http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011901 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011901 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 12:00:34 -0800 Comment by Nobody in Particular Everybody knows that Osama is a lying, sack-o'-shit scumbag, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.

]]> Nobody in Particular http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011928 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1011928 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 12:04:09 -0800 Comment by former editor Apparently both the director and the editor say it's a fake. So @4 this means that in some vault somewhere there exists: original footage, shot lists, transcriptions, paper edits, rough cuts, copious editing notes, et cetera. All pointing to the original dialog, proving exactly what was said. Short of real ministry of truth expertise, You couldn't convincingly fake all this documentation if you wanted to, especially with a famous documentary filmmaker.

]]> former editor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012015 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012015 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 12:20:51 -0800 Comment by E Who you gonna believe - your eyes & ears or the word of a guy who made stultifying concert films like "Jimi Plays Yahtzee"?

]]> E http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012286 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012286 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 13:22:58 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle It's sad how desperate the Hils backers are ...

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012301 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012301 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 13:26:32 -0800 Comment by umvue Oh no! Obama AND Clinton supporters have penetrated my aluminum foil cap!

]]> umvue http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012404 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012404 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 13:54:13 -0800 Comment by Mikeblanco Somewhere on youtube I watched the much longer original version. In it it is clear that Kantor is calling the pollsters shit, not the people of Indiana. It is also clear that he's commenting on how upset the Whitehouse will be at how well Perot did when he says, how would you like to be in the Whitehouse tonight.

Don't misunderstand me, James Caravelle is a scumbag- Dismissing Paula Jones as what you get when you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park (After Monica can anyone doubt her story?) Stephanopolis is clearly unethical for carrying on as an "objective" newsman while interacting with the wife of his buddy, but in this is made up and whoever did it did not do Obama any favors.

]]> Mikeblanco http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012446 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/today_in_campaign_hoaxes#c1012446 2008 Fri, 02 May 2008 14:06:49 -0800