I wish I had some "go to" source that could compare this type of "assassination banter" to previous presidential campaigns. It certainly seems like this type of talk has always been at worst distasteful, and at best absolutely abhorrent... Not that I expect the best from Fox - but this is unacceptable.

50% off topic:

Krugman channeling my points in NYT:

1. "the nightmare [we] should fear is [Obama] will nonetheless manage to lose" the general election." "there are some ominous signs in the polling data. In Florida, in particular,... Ohio also looks problematic, and Pennsylvania looks closer than it should. ... "

Yup. AS I've been saying.

2. So what could make Obama lose??
"continuing demonization of Mrs. Clinton serves nobody except Mr. McCain. .... it might incline a few more of [the HRC supporters] them to stay home in November."

Yup, as I've been saying.

"Nor should Obama supporters dismiss Mrs. Clinton’s strength as a purely Appalachian phenomenon, with the implication that Clinton voters are just a bunch of hicks."

As I've been syaing.

3. "mainly it’s up to Mr. Obama to deliver the unity he has always promised — starting with his own party."

4. "One thing to do would be ...recognizing Florida’s primary votes — which at this point wouldn’t change the outcome of the nomination fight."
Seat FL, yup, been saying.

5. "What about offering Mrs. Clinton the vice presidency? ... I’d do it. Adding Mrs. Clinton to the ticket — or at least making the offer — might help heal the wounds of an ugly primary fight."

Check and mate.

6. Oh wait can't offer her VP cuz ....she's an evil racist bitch!!

Well no. Actually the RFK flap is yet "another fake Clinton scandal — the latest in a long line that goes all the way back to Whitewater. This one, in case you missed it, involved an interview Hillary Clinton gave ... in which she tried to make a case for her continuing campaign by pointing out that nomination fights have often gone on into the summer. As one of her illustrations, she mentioned that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June. It wasn’t the best example.., but it’s absurd to suggest, as some Obama supporters immediately did, that Mrs. Clinton was making some kind of dark hint about Barack Obama’s future. But then, it was equally absurd to portray Mrs. Clinton’s assertion that it took L.B.J.’s political skills to turn Martin Luther King’s vision into legislation as an example of politicizing race. Yet the claim that Mrs. Clinton was playing the race card, which was promoted by some Obama supporters as well as in a memo by a member of Mr. Obama’s staff, achieved wide currency."

Okay that's the argument.

You want to win FL OH VA PA NC MO GA NM and expand the map in the Fall?

Hug a Dogpatcher/Archie Bunker/Woman Over Age 55 Fron a Non-Coastal State today.

Unity unity rah rah rah!

Did you have that all stored up and ready to go, PC? Hope you feel better.

liz trotta is disgusting
http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com

I'm confused. Can't PC go back to being unPC?

The problem with your argument, PC, is that Bobby Kennedy's assassination came at the end of a 3-month primary, thus totally nullifying Clinton's claim that she was merely citing it as evidence of a long primary period.

I saw that clip yesterday and was sort of amazed that the anchor's reaction was just "tell us how you really feel..." and then continued with his previous stream of thought, as if he wasn't really even surprised that someone would say such a thing.

PC, or UnPC, or whatever the fuck you're calling yourself today, who are you planning to vote for in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee and someone other than Hillary is on the ticket for VP? Will you vote for Obama? McCain? Ralph Nader? Write in Hillary? Write in Mickey Mouse? Stay home and pout? (I can almost visualize you in your Burien basement studio apartment on election night, still wearing your McDonald's uniform from work, sitting among the cockroaches with your lower lip trembling...)

Yes, Obama is going to have to reach out to Hillary supporters if he is to win PA, Ohio, Florida, etc. Duh. I predict the majority of them will be smart enough to recognize the need after the last eight years to get the Republicans out of the White House and Congress (sending them to an ice floe off the coast of Greenland is my suggestion) and will vote for Obama even if he wasn't their first choice. I voted for Hillary's husband in 1992 even though he wasn't my first or even second choice during the primaries that year. But those Hillary supporters who stay home or vote for McCain out of spite are an even lower life form than the Nader voters of 2000.

@6
then why did she mention her husband's campaign lasting until june? There is NO WAY that she was hinting at Obama being assassinated, just no way.

From talking to some coworkers etc, I have found that the possibility of assassination has been on some people's minds for a while. I thought that the media hadn't brought it up intentionally, so that it wouldn't become a foregone conclusion and add to the pile of reasons Obama is "unelectable". Because it had been on people's minds, but not said, once the word was even murmured, in whatever context, it was resounding. And now we see shitheads like this woman making cracks about it on fox, because the barrier of saying this dreaded word has already been broken down.

She wasn't hinting at his assassination, I'm sure she was sincerely making the insincere point about past long primary seasons. The fact that the two examples she uses to make this point didn't start until way later in the year and are thus bad comparisons doesn't mean she was talking about assassination, it just means she was lying. She's been using these lines for months. She knows the timeline comparison is bullshit, but it doesn't matter because no one calls her on it.

He better fucking win in November. I don't care how he does it, he just better win.

Hillary's main point now is that Michigan and Florida should be recognized so that everyone has their voted counted, and yet when she says she has the majority of the popular vote, she doesn't count any caucus states' votes whatsoever. Fuck all the awful double-speak and rhetoric, even if she does believe in it. What the fuck happened to counting every vote?

Her husband had the nomination wrapped in April (arguably March) so her "point" about it lasting until June is really more of a "lie".

No matter what way you cut it, she's been intellectually dishonest on a consistant basis.

Hillary never apologized. She just said she's sorry you're stupid enough to think that when she said she was still in it because RFK got assasinated in June, she meant she was still in it because RFK got assasinated in June.

As anyone who has followed her this campaign, anything Hillary says is generally at odds with what she "meant", which can never be determined until after a bad newscycle.

RU the TOOL - CA in June of 1992 - she said he didn't wrap it up til then - got it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_1992

- "Although Brown continued to campaign in a number of states, he won no further primaries. Despite this, he still had a sizable number of delegates, and a big win in his home state of California would deprive Clinton of sufficient support to win the nomination, which Brown apparently thought would revert to him by default. After nearly a month of intense campaigning and multiple debates between the two candidates, Clinton managed to defeat Brown in this final primary by a margin of 48% to 41%"

14- For fuck's sake, her entire argument is hollow anyway. Comparing races where the honeypot of California delegates were still a goal in June to this year when California voted back in February is utter bullshit. She wanted to use nomination and assassination in the same soundbite. Again.

God you obamies are dense. She wasn't talking about staying in until CA but rather until June when CA used to have theirs. The soundbite was in an editorial board - hardly a public speech. If the HRC campaign wanted to get the "A" word out, there were and are far better and more subtle ways to do it.

She is far closer than Brown, McCarthy or for that matter RFK were in 1968.

How is it that Fox continually mistakes Osama/Obama? This is not the first, or even the second time. Tells me all I need to know about what kind of informed public they are trying to create in America - misinformed.

In any event, if you are a political pundit and you can't keep Osama/Obama straight, you out to be fired. Of course, if you are that stupid, I guess political pundit on Fox is all you are qualified for.

After June 3rd, this better be over.

PERIOD.

dan - were you equally as upset when teddy kennedy had a similar slip of the tongue?

Sigh. "Obamies"? "Clinton fanatics"? I forsee a depressing future where democrats shoot themselves in the collective foot through pathetic infighting. This is NOT the time for this, people! It is BEYOND time to unite and make sure we see a democratic president this next term. Can't we all agree that would be best, regardless of which one it turns out to be?!

PLEASE?!