I'm all for a nude beach like Wreck Beach in Vancouver. And it's not just fat and old people that go there to get nude. there are some hot women and men that go to Wreck and bare it all.

So if we can't call them "lesbians," what should we call them?

Lesbos islanders? Three surprise wangs; the old bait and switch.

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Pussy Lickin' Dorito loving knitting machines.

Sappho was a Lesbian, but not a lesbian. She was bi.

I believe the creepy kid's show is an interpretation of scene from Mark Twain's short story, The Mysterious Stranger.

That kids' show was creepy. Very creepy.

Slave labor in China. Big surprise. Not. It's partly America's fault for our insatiable appetite for cheaper goods. I wonder who they were making toys for in the toy factory?

China is beginning to find it too expensive to produce cheap stuff in their country so they are now outsourcing to even poorer countries. And the cycle continues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Mark_Twain_%281985_film%29

Tom Friedman's back in The New York Times, and he's back with a vengeance.

Hillary Clinton has decided to line up with John McCain in pushing to suspend the federal excise tax on gasoline, 18.4 cents a gallon, for this summer’s travel season. This is not an energy policy. This is money laundering: we borrow money from China and ship it to Saudi Arabia and take a little cut for ourselves as it goes through our gas tanks. What a way to build our country.

… Good for Barack Obama for resisting this shameful pandering.

Following on the Friedman column, one of the media memes/myths of this presidential campaign is that policy-wise there's scarcely any daylight between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Sure, on certain issues, like health care and Iraq, Hillary and Obama are forced to gravitate to ostensibly similar positions because that's what the political marketplace demands. But the two of them are converging on those positions from drastically different places. This is why the two of them would pursue drastically different policies in the White House.

This is also why Hillary is wrong on the gas-tax holiday.

This is why Hillary is wrong on Iran.

This is why Hillary's health-insurance plan, if it even survives, will end up benefiting the big health-insurance companies more than anyone else.

This is why everything Hillary might do to address climate change or reduce this nation's dependence on foreign oil will either prove fruitless or cause more trouble than it solves.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

There's this flattering characterization of Hillary that goes, "Sure, she's a brass-knuckles, dirty politician, but that's what it takes to get the job done." It's the Tina Fey "bitch is the new black" theme. The problem is, what job is she really getting done?

Lesbosians?

Good points, cressona.

Meanwhile, that 0.6 percent GDP increase? 90 percent of it goes to the CEOs and the ultra-rich, while the 99.9 percent of Americans have their income go DOWN compared to inflation.

That's what that means.

Seattle needs to have a clothing optional beach designated within Magnusson Park near the dog area, and where the historical traditional skinny dipping area used to exist a decade ago.

All major metros in the Pacific Northwest, and Canada have a clothing optional beach, except Seattle

It can be well signed, and noted where this area is, we can plant blackberry bushes as a barrier, and to keep non participants at a distance. There are so many possibilities how we can work with you to make this work. Please give us an opportunity.

The Parks department made an exception for dog owners at Magnusson to have an officially designated "off leash" area on the north end of Magnusson. Is this not the same thing of providing an official area for a "special interest group"? Is that not a double standard?

Seattle is a very liberal diverse city. I'm not sure that we have Parks representatives who mirror that liberal diversity. It is a very close minded mentality that a request for a clothing optional beach is from some fringe lunatic group. There are many folks who live in Fremont, Phinney Ridge, the U district and Cap Hill who would LOVE the ability to go run around with their kit off. There is a very large international community, and immigrant population who traditionally have used European style beaches in their lives, and they see no reason why we can't have one here.

On a recent sunny day last summer, I counted 58 people using a small secluded park. All were nude. There were 28 women and 30 men enjoying the day. The ages ranged from 17 to 65, with an even mix of generations. People were playing Frisbee, splashing in the water, sun tanning, and playing a game of cards. It was quite frankly a very typical scene. The only problem was that it was crowded. That beach is very tiny, being only 50 feet across and 60 feet deep. It does show that there is a huge pent up demand for this type of opportunity. Comparatively, Wreck Beach up in Vancouver BC (google it) often has 2,000 people visiting it on an average day. That beach is extremely difficult to access, yet it still sees a HUGE demand.

I think the Seattle Parks Department needs to implement and designate a fully declared signed area of Magnusson Park to be clothing optional.

Let them have their designated space I say. I have a feeling it would be a HUGE draw to that park from all types of folks, and the college scene would start flocking there as well.

13 Right on!

@13 Reality chek for Reality Check - while your suggestion is very reasonable to reasonable people, I think you're forgetting that Seattle is like a woman in a naughty low cut dress, appearing to be liberal while sporting very conservative granny panties underneath. The small populations of liberals living on Capitol Hill, in the U-District and Fremont are a scarce minority compared to the greater Seattle population that throw their two cents in to the overall politics. Not to mention, you'd have Ken Hutch marching his army of the righteous out to the beach every day to tell you how you're going to hell. What a fun day in the sun that would be! Running a search of nude beaches in the U.S. turns up zero of these beaches in all of greater Washington State, while the typically thought of as conservative midwest sports five nude beaches in Michigan (2), Wisconsin (1) and Indiana (2).