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Thursday, March 6, 2008

Another Unhelpful Comment from an Obama Surrogate

posted by on March 6 at 11:35 AM

This one from his foreign policy adviser, Susan Rice:

Via The Caucus

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So, Dems continue to tear each other apart. Why can't they shut their traps. ...McCain will be President!

Posted by Stupid | March 6, 2008 11:41 AM

Yay! McCain!

Posted by Violet | March 6, 2008 11:45 AM

Come November 7 the world is gonna look back on THIS moment as the moment when OHMYGOD all was lost.

Posted by umvue | March 6, 2008 11:47 AM

Had she finished that statement with "neither have Clinton or McCain" then it would have been fine - and true. None of the three have been in a position where such a thing is required and none have done anything that would allow people to judge how they would do in that situation. If anything, Obama should be discussing his temperament in relation to this question. And, come the general we can just ask if McCain's heart can sustain the stress of all of those 3 a.m. phone calls he'll evidently be getting.

Posted by Ed | March 6, 2008 11:48 AM

Well, Clinton people are comparing to Obama to Kenn Starr now, so not only are the gloves off but the knives are out. How long before Hillary starts using Obama's middle name in speeches?

Bloody hell.

Posted by Andy Niable | March 6, 2008 11:51 AM

The Clintons have no decency - as evidenced by the Ken Starr bullshit.

At this point I'm starting to hate Ken Starr not for what he did - but because he failed at his ultimate mission of ruining those people.

Posted by Ed | March 6, 2008 11:57 AM

Considering the news today in Canada - in the Toronto Globe and Mail and the CBC last night - is all about how it was Sen Clinton who was lying about being "tough" on NAFTA and phoned the PM of Canada and urged him to do an attack phone call to Obama ...

Nope, not worried.

Your lies come back to haunt you, Sen Clinton.

But, hey, that's called "investigative journalism".

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 6, 2008 12:12 PM

I was reading My Pet Goat when I got the 3AM phone call. Where were YOU?

Posted by heywhatsit | March 6, 2008 12:16 PM

@5 and 6, focus now. Given that Obama and HRC have very close voting records, do you really want McCain to be president? Because thats what it sounds like. You wonder why both sides are going negative, you say they hit us first. you sound like children. You yourselves are engendering the very negativity you deplore. This is what cointelpro used to do. send in agitators to incite people to violence in order to discredit movements. Instead of this gratuitous BS, how about complaining to both campaigns to cut out the negative attacks?

Posted by LMSW | March 6, 2008 12:26 PM

I tried to phone Sen Clinton last night but I got a busy signal.

Oh well, guess the IED in Times Square wasn't important ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 6, 2008 12:32 PM

@7: Right, because we should believe anything that comes out of the mouths of Harper's gang right now.

Apparently the PM's chief of staff first told some reporters informally that Clinton called, then later the news report was that Obama had called, and now there is evidence that the whole thing was a lie.

So while we can bitch about Harper being a dick and agree that Clinton probably got a significant bump on Tuesday from the bogus news report, as far as I know no evidence has come out that Clinton's campaign actually contacted them.

Unless of course you have links to more evidence that Clinton was involved in this? Seems more likely we'll find evidence that the McCain campaign was in on it.

They're just a few conservative dickheads trying to stir up some shit and got caught.

Posted by Clifton | March 6, 2008 12:37 PM

Both aren't ready for the 3:00 am phone call. Brilliant strategy. We both put your kids in danger! Why not vote for us?

Dems are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. At least Mccain isn't a wack job evangelistic republican. It could be worse.

Posted by Medina | March 6, 2008 12:44 PM

More false blaming of the Clinton campaign?

Typical of the Obama campaign's hypocritcal slime.

Instead of "Hope" and "Change" it's more like "Lies", "Accustations", "Exaggerations", and "Do anything to win, sleazy or not." Those are the kind of people I want in charge of my nation!

Reminds me of when the Bush campaign was gaining momentum behind the neo-conservative zealots.

Posted by Mike in Pioneer Square | March 6, 2008 1:31 PM

Eli, sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.

Posted by Big Sven | March 6, 2008 1:47 PM

McCain would have answered the 3 am phone call, but he was too busy trying to remember if he was in bed with a blond lobbyist or his blond mistress he married when he left his wife.

Well, that plus he doesn't know how to use these newfangled touch-tone phone things.

P.S.: CBC, Toronto Globe & Mail, UK press, and Reuters are all reporting the details on how Sen Clinton created NAFTAgate when she phoned the PM of Canada - it's not our prob the US news loves Clinton so much they refuse to do investigative reporting ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 6, 2008 1:50 PM

I'm *sooooo* glad she said this. I was feeling really shitty after Wolfson's "Ken Starr" comment. Now I'm reminded that Obama's campaign is no less cut throat than Clinton's. Thanks, Susan Rice!

Posted by Big Sven | March 6, 2008 1:50 PM

But Sven, I thought you like for your candidates to be tough. So, you should appreciate Obama. This is ugly. Dems will destroy each other and give McNuts the WH.

Posted by Stupid | March 6, 2008 3:19 PM

Hey Mike and Sven, good. now you've made your point. Have you helped build a coalition against the republicans or are you still stuck on being righteous? By putting down Obama's campaign you increase animosity and infighting in our own party. this does not help us get a democratic president. tone down the rhetoric or might as well be working for the republicans.
full disclosure: I am far to the left of both HRC and Obama but I am more committed to denying the republicans another presidency than throwing my vote away by pushing my personal views. I think others should be taking this stance and get over their ego's.

Posted by LMSW | March 6, 2008 3:28 PM


By putting down Obama's campaign you increase animosity and infighting in our own party.

The time to unite behind one candidate is when she or he locks up the nomination. Until then, a healthy debate about the strengths and tactics of our two good candidates is doing no harm. Relax.

Posted by Big Sven | March 6, 2008 9:14 PM

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