Comments on Washington Congressman Brian Baird, Superdelegate and Surge Supporter, on His Obama Endorsement

things like this anger hillary supporters. wait for the two paragraph response from unPC

Brian Baird, another wild-eyed Obama supporter who is "Fired Up" and "Ready to Go." Did I say "Yes we Can", well we can, so there. Seriously though, how can people support a politician as utterly brilliant as Obama. I just don't get it. I mean, you can't get elected President of the Harvard Law Review unless you are utterly brilliant. Didn't we make that a disqualifier for the presidency about 8 years ago.

Sounds like he's where I am.

Look, the thing that Clinton supporters don't grok is that many people know that Obama has slightly different positions on certain policies - but they don't care.

It's a gestalt thing.

I know that drives you guys batty, but it is what it is.

Obama should demand that Baird support the end of the war.

Let’s look at where we agree. We agree that we need change in this country. We agree that the American people are thirsty for us to unite around common values… And that’s what I think is exciting people, that they are seeing a candidate who is stepping forward and saying, ‘I am not going to spend a lot of time tearing people down, I’m doing to put forward a positive vision for this country.

Common values like ending the fucking war.

Earlier from BA

that is what bothers so many hillary supporters. he's getting people that they cant logically fathom would support him. its a failing on the part of hillary's campaign and supporters to realize that rationality doesnt mean much.

obama gains supporters because he doesnt have a "my way or the highway".

its like picking teams for school yard football;

hillary only wants staunch democrats and left wing liberals on her team

obama wants republicans, democrats, liberals, indies, anyone he can get on his team. he isnt going to alienate them by forcing people to agree with him on every issue.

B.A. how about one issue? The war.

Think "Yes We Can ", "Change" "Hope" "Unite" will play for 7 months?

Since the latest polls have Obama leading McCain by 3.7% after a great stretch and Bush having a 33% approval rating it doesn't look like those Republcans and Independents are quite as in the fold as advertised.

That's the nice thing about Obama. He'll never ask anyone to choose anything, or give up anything, or anything -- except hate Hillary and Vote for Obama.

Thus will the new world replace the old.

why should he force people to conform to him ouch?

Obama doesn't demand you hate Hillary.

He's about forgiveness, and the future.

Sadly, some people who support him think this means they should hate Hillary.

But that's not his message.

Just like some people support Christ, but then go and practice hate and division and stealing from the poor to give to the rich - all things he was against.

why should a politician purposely try and force other people to agree with him when it would sabotage everything that has worked so far, and would sabotage possible progress in the future?

i think this is what aggravates hillary supporters; he isnt being definitive enough for them on certain things and it actually is helping him gain more support.

From the book of B.A.

that is what bothers so many hillary supporters. he's getting people that they cant logically fathom would support him. its a failing on the part of hillary's campaign and supporters to realize that rationality doesnt mean much.

i think this is what aggravates hillary supporters; he isnt being definitive enough for them on certain things and it actually is helping him gain more support.

Will 2.15.08

But that's not his message.

Just like some people support Christ, but then go and practice hate and division and stealing from the poor to give to the rich - all things he was against.

I know don't blame the man for his supporters.

ouch, is it or is it not true that his campaign strategy has worked thus far?

Obama has run a great campaign. With little scrutiny he leads McC by only 3.7%. "Hope" "Change" and "Unity" will not hold up for 8 more months and if in the end he wins with no more commitment than the mishmash in Baird's statement, nothing will get done just like JFK.

we need an end to this war and that's little enough to ask of his supporters.

so you want obama to give ultimatums? how will that gain him support?

"He'll never ask anyone to choose anything, or give up anything, or anything -- except hate Hillary and Vote for Obama."

He doesn't ask people to hate Hillary. Hillary, Bill, and Mark Penn do a good job of making people hate her all on their own.

If he gave ultimatums than it would make him just like Sen Clinton - and that would be even more confusing. We like choices.

ouch

After "35 years of experience" and the highest name i.d. numbers in the country - how does Hillary do against McCain in head-to-head matchups? How about in swing states - like Colorado? Or how do we think she'd do against him in Virginia?

Keep brining up that 3.6% number and ignore that McCain beats her or ties her in just about every poll. Intellectually weak argument.

Rasmussen, Friday, February 15, 2008

"In general election match-ups, Obama leads John McCain 46% to 43% while McCain leads Clinton 49% to 41%"

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Sorry for keeping you waiting!
2 paras follow:

1. Best news for Obama today is the poll showing only a 9 pt. Clinton lead in Texas. Why aren't the Obama supporters talking about that fact it's pretty good news for Obama?
2. Baird = Joe Leiberman of Washington State. He's on my shit list. Is it okay to be angry with surgemongers? Why hasn't some enterprising activist filed against him? He's with McCain on teh surge and should be tkaen out or at least challenged for his office. He doens't represent the people of his district. And now Obama will owe him a favor! Obama certainly won't be out there trying to replace Baird now. So we all lose one vote against the war and get stuck with Baird's pro war vote.
[bonus paragraph just for Bellevue Ave]
Now Obama's buying support not just with dollars but thru selling off favor chits wthat will dilute his position on Iraq and ability to pull out quickly.
If this type of politics is "change" to you -- you just might be a redneck! And, you apparently just fell off a turnip truck -- cruising Bellevue Avenue.]

does it burn yet?

how do you know baird will be owed a favor? maybe baird needs to ride the coat tails of obama for future elections. "i supported obama, so why not elect me again".

i dont need to crow about poll numbers in states before theyve voted. I just crow afterwards when he's won em.

Elenchos - Rasmussen is a Republican pollster - check realclearpolitics.com O up about 3.7 C down about 1.8% See more below.

Ed - Obama with a lead of 3.7% isn't bringing in the Republicans and Independents as advertised. He hasn't been run through the ringer with negative ads (HRC has one up today I hear saying he won't debate ooooh that's really negative) or the potpouri of Republican tactics.

Obama's strength has mainly been in states that won't go Dem. He lost the California hispanics 2 to 1 and they like McCain. Look at the realclearpolitic.com polls - FL, OH and PA were highlighted - both Dems were behind in FL and OH by 2% and HRC had a bigger lead in PA than Obama.

how do you know baird will be owed a favor? maybe baird needs to ride the coat tails of obama for future elections. "i supported obama, so why not elect me again".

aaaah exactly - pro-war Dem keeps seat with Obama support - maybe Lieberman next?

No, it could be true - remember a lot of Independent and some Conservative voters are pro-Obama - and Baird's district is more interesting than Seattle ones.

Baird's district elected Linda Smith.

Will @ 9 -- Obama's standard stump speech is hate speech. It's only lightly veiled, and it does the job as intended ... just like his dog whistle appeals to the Right.

unsoeld voted for gun control lost to linda who held the office for six years starting in 1994 - republican for six out of the last 20 years woohoo.

unPC said: Baird = Joe Leiberman of Washington State. He's on my shit list. Is it okay to be angry with surgemongers? Why hasn't some enterprising activist filed against him?

That enterprising activist would be Cheryl Crist.

First, let me share the facts:

**Democrat CFR member Candidates:**
Barack Obama: Also, his wife Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson

**Republican CFR member Candidates:**
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy. On Feb. 21, 2006, Hass wrote a column for the Taipei (China) Times titled, "State Sovereignty Must Be Altered in Globalized Era." This is an explicit solicitation for global government. Here is the article --http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021

So what is the "CFR" anyway?

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is David Rockefeller's private thinktank. This group has nothing to do with our government since it is entirely private. This group is pro-war and pro-North American Union (loss of American sovereignty and loss of Constitutional protections). You can read more about this group at --
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm