Look, the thing that Clinton supporters don't grok is that many people know that Obama has slightly different positions on certain policies - but they don't care.

It's a gestalt thing.

I know that drives you guys batty, but it is what it is.

Let’s look at where we agree. We agree that we need change in this country. We agree that the American people are thirsty for us to unite around common values… And that’s what I think is exciting people, that they are seeing a candidate who is stepping forward and saying, ‘I am not going to spend a lot of time tearing people down, I’m doing to put forward a positive vision for this country.

Common values like ending the fucking war.

Earlier from BA

that is what bothers so many hillary supporters. he's getting people that they cant logically fathom would support him. its a failing on the part of hillary's campaign and supporters to realize that rationality doesnt mean much.

its like picking teams for school yard football;

hillary only wants staunch democrats and left wing liberals on her team

obama wants republicans, democrats, liberals, indies, anyone he can get on his team. he isnt going to alienate them by forcing people to agree with him on every issue.

Think "Yes We Can ", "Change" "Hope" "Unite" will play for 7 months?

Since the latest polls have Obama leading McCain by 3.7% after a great stretch and Bush having a 33% approval rating it doesn't look like those Republcans and Independents are quite as in the fold as advertised.

Thus will the new world replace the old.

He's about forgiveness, and the future.

Sadly, some people who support him think this means they should hate Hillary.

But that's not his message.

Just like some people support Christ, but then go and practice hate and division and stealing from the poor to give to the rich - all things he was against.

that is what bothers so many hillary supporters. he's getting people that they cant logically fathom would support him. its a failing on the part of hillary's campaign and supporters to realize that rationality doesnt mean much.

i think this is what aggravates hillary supporters; he isnt being definitive enough for them on certain things and it actually is helping him gain more support.

Will 2.15.08

But that's not his message.

Just like some people support Christ, but then go and practice hate and division and stealing from the poor to give to the rich - all things he was against.

I know don't blame the man for his supporters.

we need an end to this war and that's little enough to ask of his supporters.

He doesn't ask people to hate Hillary. Hillary, Bill, and Mark Penn do a good job of making people hate her all on their own.

After "35 years of experience" and the highest name i.d. numbers in the country - how does Hillary do against McCain in head-to-head matchups? How about in swing states - like Colorado? Or how do we think she'd do against him in Virginia?

Keep brining up that 3.6% number and ignore that McCain beats her or ties her in just about every poll. Intellectually weak argument.

"In general election match-ups, Obama leads John McCain 46% to 43% while McCain leads Clinton 49% to 41%"

Sorry for keeping you waiting!
2 paras follow:

1. Best news for Obama today is the poll showing only a 9 pt. Clinton lead in Texas. Why aren't the Obama supporters talking about that fact it's pretty good news for Obama?
2. Baird = Joe Leiberman of Washington State. He's on my shit list. Is it okay to be angry with surgemongers? Why hasn't some enterprising activist filed against him? He's with McCain on teh surge and should be tkaen out or at least challenged for his office. He doens't represent the people of his district. And now Obama will owe him a favor! Obama certainly won't be out there trying to replace Baird now. So we all lose one vote against the war and get stuck with Baird's pro war vote.
[bonus paragraph just for Bellevue Ave]
Now Obama's buying support not just with dollars but thru selling off favor chits wthat will dilute his position on Iraq and ability to pull out quickly.
If this type of politics is "change" to you -- you just might be a redneck! And, you apparently just fell off a turnip truck -- cruising Bellevue Avenue.]

i dont need to crow about poll numbers in states before theyve voted. I just crow afterwards when he's won em.

Ed - Obama with a lead of 3.7% isn't bringing in the Republicans and Independents as advertised. He hasn't been run through the ringer with negative ads (HRC has one up today I hear saying he won't debate ooooh that's really negative) or the potpouri of Republican tactics.

Obama's strength has mainly been in states that won't go Dem. He lost the California hispanics 2 to 1 and they like McCain. Look at the realclearpolitic.com polls - FL, OH and PA were highlighted - both Dems were behind in FL and OH by 2% and HRC had a bigger lead in PA than Obama.

aaaah exactly - pro-war Dem keeps seat with Obama support - maybe Lieberman next?

That enterprising activist would be Cheryl Crist.

**Democrat CFR member Candidates:**
Barack Obama: Also, his wife Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson

**Republican CFR member Candidates:**
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy. On Feb. 21, 2006, Hass wrote a column for the Taipei (China) Times titled, "State Sovereignty Must Be Altered in Globalized Era." This is an explicit solicitation for global government. Here is the article --http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021

So what is the "CFR" anyway?

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is David Rockefeller's private thinktank. This group has nothing to do with our government since it is entirely private. This group is pro-war and pro-North American Union (loss of American sovereignty and loss of Constitutional protections). You can read more about this group at --
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm