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With 4% of precincts reporting…

...didn't Iowa still look like a 3-way tie?  Wake me up when the sample is large enough to mean anything.

Well, Edwards is toast. I'm glad we finally got that over with.

Please don't update this every 2%.

With 4% of precincts reporting… Clinton 33%

UPDATE: With 6% of precincts reporting… Clinton 37%

I rest my case.

Please don't update until it means something. Otherwise I'm going to start wasting precious cognitive resources thinking over the results before they're anywhere near conclusive. Shame shame.

Hey Dan, thanks -- will be interesting.

A bit OT, but was wondering why, from your perspective, do so many media outlets not run the time polls close in their articles? I just did a review of CNN and MSNBC, and Manchester Union Leader and they all mentioned the polls opened at midnight in thos two tiny-towns, but not a peep about the close.

That's why your results are a surprise to me.

not that excited as long as Governor Huckleberry continues to do poorly...

Geesh, just embargo the numbers until i get downtown to the Obama party, ok?

UPDATE: With 9% of precincts reporting… Clinton 37.5%

(meanwhile, polls are staying open late to accommodate turnout.)

and now hillary's ahead by 2%

tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime to throw up...

(I must say that as a Clinton supporter, the statistically insignificant yet wholly unexpected early lead has me flush with excitement.)

McCain wins in NH, sez CNN.

Oh well, hopefully it'll be a long, drawn-out, painful GOP primary with Huckabee coming out bruised.

If Obama and Clinton trend this close a spread all the way through to the end, whoever comes in second is going to go all Sore/Loserman all over Hew Hampshire’s ass for not having enough ballots and having inadequate polling facilities… The lawyers must be salivating already… this should be hysterical… (I bet Hillary already has Gregoire’s ballot finders on tap…)

Go Hilly!!!

Edwards is toast ... that much seems clear.

@ Big Sven, you and me both! But I think she was expected to win Manchester, and that's where all the votes have been coming in from.

@16 some of the other counties with lower % of reporting seem more Obama than Clinton, though McCain seems really consistent across the state

Kucinich has opened up a 1% lead over Randy Crow!

Oh, geez. Don't make it McCain. He has the best chance of any of 'em.

who is crow? According to
http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1102 at 5:25 PM PST Crow has 441 votes as a Democratic candidate...

Randy Crow -
In 2000 I drove around Iowa and I ran in the Democratic Presidential Primaries in New Hampshire and Louisiana and in 2004 I drove around Iowa (someone needs to sit me down and explain Iowa to me because I have not figured it out yet) more and I ran in the Democratic Presidential Primaries in New Hampshire and Texas, so 2008 will not be my first rodeo. My web site Randy Crow Democrat for President, http://www.randycrow.com/ has been live since 1998 or so and usually I get 100,000 hits per month or so and this is more hits than even the so called big time candidates. So far I have spent over $70,000.00 of my own money running for political office, presently I am running for county commissioner and it is my 13 th election. I have bad mouthed Little George before bad mouthing Little George was cool. September 11 was obviously a scam. The bad guys are laying on the planet the lie three massive building were brought down by fuel catching on fire in two planes whose fuel could not have generated enough heat to bring down a one story building. Nuclear bombs had to have been detonated in the buildings to bring them down with very sophisticated delayed action built in to the math. Why? Why is the world being lied to on such a massive scale? There are a bunch of bad guys making war on the United States so they can destitute the American people to force us to lick their boots and be their slaves. There are many reasons I have run for President for the last seven years or so. I love America. I do not want to see Karl Rove type of Neocons steal and destroy a great country from great people because of their cheap near do well wannabe scams and lies.
http://conservativepresident2008.blogspot.com/2006/09/randy-crow-fiscal-conservative.html

hillary on top? now it makes all the post-iowa obits HILARIOUS in retrospect.

Vermin Supreme (GOP) has 5 votes, opening up a 1 vote lead over Neal Fendig

Dan: re: 2000 votes... that's apples & oranges. It looks like twice as many Dems than Repubs are turning out, which is a GOOD THING!

competition is good....no obvious front runners is better....a continued debate is vital...I don't want O or C to win...but I don't want either of them to become the lead on the second state of this long national nightmare

Cat blamed for Idaho blackout
1 hour, 16 minutes ago
A cat picked the wrong place to come in from the cold, and caused a
power outage that blacked out more than 12,000 homes and businesses. The
cat entered an electrical substation, snuggled up to a warm transformer
and contacted a live circuit, causing a short that blew out nine feeder
lines Monday afternoon, Idaho Power officials said.
Service was restored in less than three hours to most customers,
including City Hall where the lights came on in time for a City Council
meeting, utility spokesman Dennis Lopez said.
The outage also disabled traffic lights in the city of about 77,000
people. Temporary stop signs were set up at affected intersections and
about 15 police officers were assigned to direct and monitor traffic.
Police Lt. Eric Skoglund said he didn't know of any accidents that could
be blamed on the outage.
The short circuit killed the cat.
Copyright (c) 2008 The Associated Press.

Yay!! I'm a hater on cats! I WIN!

Cats? I'd say you're real enemy is text formatting, and hyper linking. At least cats don't crapflood.

Why are people still voting for Dodd & Biden? Wackos. Richardson, Kucinich, and Gravel need those votes so ABC won't exclude them from the next debate.

My 72 year old mother just called to tell me she is optimistically hopeful that her girl Hillary will keep trending on top tonight. She was giddy albeit trying to maintain her reserve for now.

I am not as depressed as last night b/c my mama's hope to see a Democratic Woman President in her lifetime seems to still be alive.

I love you mama!

Man, this is looking shittier and shittier...if Clinton and McCain get noms, we could easily end up with another GOP president.

I wish I lived in a place where my vote counted.

Competition is good, I agree. But if Hillary wins tonight the campaign is over. She just has too much of the party establishment on her side, and they'll jump off Obama at the first whiff of their own fear.

Every. Single. Election. The Democrats do this. We almost go with our gut, then panic and pick the safe party choice. Who then goes on to lose.

So Paul is below 10%. Can we offically declare him an old meme now? Granted he was funny for a while and his supporters provided great lulz, but its gotten pretty old.

@32 - no, no! Keep the money coming, Paulistas! Get him running a third party campaign!

I can't believe Hillary might be pulling this off. Didn't see that coming.

40%. Wow. Considering that a lot of people didn't even think she would finish second, that is a good, old-fashioned butt whupping.

Looks that way. I'm surprised. So are a lot of real analysts. I think even Clinton is surprised. I can't wait for the postmortems.

But anyone suggesting that anything is "over" for anybody needs to take a pill. Among the Big Three, that is. Richardson should quit now.

go hillary go! watching romney's concession speech now...why is he talking about the olympics? i'm glad to see kucinich is earning thousands of votes. that's cool.

OOh, it's tightening. 31% in, 39% to 36%, about 2,600 votes. This ain't over.

Kucinich has barely a thousand votes, not "thousands". 2%. Lame.

go hilary, go!

34% in, back to 40-36.

Kucinich drops to 1%. Can he finish higher than Total Write-ins?

Come on Obama, get your ass in gear!

Damn old people and their right to vote!

:-P

I still stand by my "anyone but a republican" philosophy though.

ewwwwwwwww hillary gurl, why you so fierce.

I never knew McCain said "Warshington." That's embarassing.

the news is so stupid, they are all too afraid to call it for hillary. if it was obama leading by 1% they woulda called it hours ago.

Um, they're not calling it because it's not over. 37% in, 39-36. Barely three thousand votes.

#43, that's because the more rural and Hillary-friendly votes are supposed to be coming in first. Even Mitt is closing his unclosable gap with McCain as the night goes on.

Calling something doesn't make it so, regardless. Just wait for it to play out.

Where do you suppose Billary's henchmen are putting Obama's ballot boxes?

Dianna@30, just curious: why don't you think your vote counts? Are you just having a tantrum because your candidate may or may not win tonight? Is that really an indictment of the whole system?

Though I am an unabashed Clinton supporter, I was delighted at all the youth turnout in Iowa last week. Should Clinton get the nomination, our country will be in big trouble if all those recently politically engaged young folk turn their tails and sulk out the general election.

39% in, still 39-36 -- but less than 3,000 votes. Someone called "O. Savior" is holding steady with 8.

They probably aren't calling it because the exit polls suggest Obama could still pull ahead. The last group of precincts that report are often very different demographically.

Damn Obama Supports...Don't hate. =)

Jesus, I can't believe how close the race is.

Go Clinton! Gurrrl.

GO BILLARY!!! You're the last great hope of the Republican party! (Obammy had me worried for a while there...)

At least the party's not throwing all their eggs in a milquetoast basket right off the bat, a la 2004 with Kerry.

Whether Obama or Hillary, looks like we're going to get an interesting, intelligent, contentious candidate on the blue side in 2008.

Gack. I hope Senator Obama pulls it off. I mean, it's not that I have anything against the Clinton Crime Family, but I just can't get that excited about a triangulating NY Senator whose votes in the senate are calculated to help her run for president and don't, you know, really reflect what she believes. Well, I take that back. She believes that she deserves to have power. So I guess her votes DO make sense. I just don't like it. . . .

41% in, 39-37. 2300 votes. O. Savior picks up another! I think Obama's going to pull this one out.

Of course, "winning" is relative; the winner will get the same number of delegates as second place, or maybe just a few more. It's not winner takes all.

44% in, 39-36 again. 2800 votes. O. Savior slips behind Tom Koos and Henry Hewes.

52% in. Melvin Fozzdick pulling huge upset. His policy to retroactively ban immigration pulled in undecideds.

@45, it's the "urban" areas that seem strongest for Clinton so far while rural is going for Obama:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/NH.html

... unless it's the "rural" parts of the "urban" counties that have been counted?

Sullivan says neither of the big college towns have reported yet. They're anticipated to be huge for Obama. He's down by 3100 votes now.

Funniest number: Giuliani, 9%. Of all these Republican candidates, there's a lot not to like about each of them, but the only one I really, really hate is Rudy. He's just a contemptible human being, and it's fun watching his shit dribble down the drain after all the money he spent there.

I'm just thankful Edwards is out of it. I'd be thrilled with either Clinton or Obama.

There needs to be some sort of agreement not to call a race when a piddling number of ballots have been counted. Thirteen percent, really? How about waiting until a few more voters get their voices heard?

Sheesh.

48% in, 39-36, 4100 votes now. Fuck NASCAR, this is exciting.

CLINTOWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems like the tears (or "tears") brought in the female votes. Or, maybe Edwards just lost some female supporters at the last minute due to his half-assed comments about Hillary.

@64 I'm wondering the same thing tsm. Why the big swing in female votes? Turned on by Clinton's display of emotion or repulsed by the male response?

Ralph Reed just tossed Bill Bennetts salad on national television.

50% in, 39-36. 3700 votes.

and Fnarf @ 82, yep way better than Nascar...and why I flippin hate mail in balloting...all the excitement of election night return watching just gone, while we wait days and days for results to trickle in.

Damnit. Its gonna take a snuke in the sniz to stop Hilldog.

oops, Fnarf @ 62...

53% in, 39-37. 3400 votes.

go hillary go!

Mind you, if Edwards drops out soon, I have a feeling Obama will get his delegates.

@72. Really, Terry? REALLY?

@73 - Sounds reasonable, especially in light of Saturday's back-slapping debate. Methinks some Obama/Edwards fan fiction might be in order...

ugh, if anything I think it's Edwards that flubbed this for Obama this weekend. I'm wishing Hillary had come in second in Iowa now.

59% in -- 39-37. 3500 votes. Obama's gotta move here pretty soon or it'll be too late.

61%

Clinton: 62,009 - 39%
Obama: 57,941 - 36%
Difference: 4,068

yes matthew. really.

although i'll be proud to vote for obama or hill come nov. anybody but gop!

I'm more nervous about McCain. He's the only Republican who could actually win in November.

I like how Sullivan is quoting Mark Steyn as to why Obama will still win NH. Steyn's been right about the success Iraq invasion, the death of bin Laden, the death of the insurgency- he's gonna be right about this too!!!

looking pretty hillarific at this point....

@76 - I think you may be right. Edwards seems to have performed unexpectedly poorly here. If he lost votes to Clinton, that could pull her ahead.

Just noticed on the Republican board a candidate by the name of "Vermin Supreme". 23 votes, not too shabby.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

President McCain.

I have heard people say they felt like throwing up in moments like these, but I never believed it. I'm actually trembling I feel so sick.

62%, 39-36. 4300 votes. I think Obama's going down tonight, unless those college kids come through.

Yay! Terry is for Hillary!

Go Hillary you can do it! Wooooo!

@Fnarf: Doesn't matter if they get the same number of delegates. This is a win in the minds of the people and the disgusting media that has blown out of proportion her eyes misting as "crying" and her voice breaking as "a break down". Saying she was losing it. Bullshit flim flam artists. All of them.

Oh, come on, Andy, get a grip. It's an early primary in a cheeseball state. Doesn't mean a thing. McCain's a LONG ways from being President.

Well fer'shizzle my kazizzle, I think she's gonna do it. Damn.

According to yahoo...
Voter breakdown by party:
Dems: 26%
Reps: 30%
Indi: 44%

Sepulate what this means. go...

New pic up on MSNBC right now -- Hillary with a big smile. It's nice to see.

Usually a pic like that is a precursor to them calling it. Only a few moments now, I reckon...but anything could happen!

i believe gomer huckleberry will be the nom for the gop.

@79. Awesome. I'm surrounded by Obama people and have been leaning that way. But I'm with you--anybody but the GOP. I just like this horse race in the Dem party and how it's energizing people.

Desperate Housewives support John Edwards.

He is crying inside.

check youtube for the video.

"I, for one, welcome our new Clintonian overlords. I'd like to remind them that, as a trusted Slog commenter, I can be helpful in rounding up others to waste time as they toil in their lifeless cubicles."

It's nice to see Clinton being rewarded for the biggest policy failure in the history of the Democratic Party -- the rollover on Iraq.

You hardline dems are so "funny" with your "anyone but gop" attitudes. I'll vote for Obama if he gets the eventual nomination, but if Hillary gets it -- sorry, I'm voting McCain or Green.

@76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

@76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

@76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

@76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

@76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

Alexis has a cleft palette.

She votes for Edwards.

Lou has halitosis.

He votes for Edwards.

Hilary has dry eye. She cries during brunch.

so does this mean my vote in california might actually count?!

go hillary go!!

Fnarf, would you like some cheese with that whine?

I'm just reacting to the video of Bill attacking Obama on Iraq. The gall, the unmitigated gall.

you mean the one where bill clinton called him a liar? yeah, that's pretty rich.

@106--Plus, his attacks aren't really based in reality. He leaves out key parts of what Obama actually said. I'm just shocked that Bill Clinton would lie or mislead the public.

@97 - Would you like to explain your logic? Obama and McCain couldn't be further from each other, while Obama and Clinton have almost mirror voting records. Or are you voting for you want as your best friend here, not as the president?

Race called for Hillary on CNN!

Hells yeah bitches!!!

SHE WON SHE WON SHE WON!!!

NBC JUST CALLED IT!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ugh...

On NPR, two suggestions for why polls differed so much from results:

1. Return to previous patterns where folks tell pollsters that they're willing to vote for a black, but in the privacy of the booth don't follow through.

2. Shift in the previous 24 hours of female impressions of Clinton, thanks to the coffeehouse display of emotion. A shift too late for the polls to catch up with.

@110 - nope. Not yet.

I'm going to puke.

Fnarf:

It is indeed one tiny podunk state, but the party apparati are eager to have this thing over and last time around it was over by this time. Hillary's narrative coming out of this will be so overwhelming that people will know they're not allowed to support Obama anymore. Their "false hopes" are over, time for another dutiful robot candidate.

Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, H. Clinton. Over and frickin' over.

That said, I congratulate Hillary's fans and hope she can win.

i told you all that the obamites booing her at the debate would backfire.

i also think that the moderator who asked her the question about why people like him more is going to burn in hell forever for being a dick.

NPR just called it for Clinton.

look out for Grafton county...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NHDEM9

If Obama doesn't get the nomination and Hillary loses the general election, this is going to be inexcusable.

Doh! AP called it. Well, shit. Perhaps I'm misguided, and having a candidate that doesn't already repulse half the electorate isn't so important after all.

OK, end of gripe.

@120 -- "Jean Enersen's Skin" LOLOLOLOLOL

Oh god, you fucking rule.

@Fnarf: Where are you finding the write-in ballot names? I can't find actual numbers other than on CNN....obviously I am inept at google.

did i just hear right? obama isn't even on the michigan ballot so that's a shoe-in for clinton? it was on npr, but i was preoccupied at my sons gymnastics class.

can anyone confirm that?

I am wondering what will happen when Obama and Hillary team up against McCain/Guiliani and the GOP wins.

Then I guess we won't be able to say that either one was "more electable" than the other.

I hope the GOP doesn't win, but I think this next presidential race is going to be a nail-biter, regardless of which Dem is leading.

@124 - The Democratic party is currently disqualifying Michigan's delegates because Michigan is holding its primary too early for the party's liking. So Hillary may win, but it also may be to no particular end.

You know what gets me the most, I think? Seeing Hillary after Iowa, surrounded by people from her husband's administration. I don't want to have Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright (!!!) and the rest of 'em back in the White House. This isn't a restoration. Perhaps I should start listening to "The Best Pop of the 90s" and dust off my little blue dress just to prepare. . .

terry, yes this is true. michigan pissed off the democratic machine by moving up their primary so hillary is the only one on the ballot. but because of it, michigan only gets half of its usual delegates.

Have you ever been in a corridor of shame?

I just hope to god that all the new voters that love Obama will STAY INVOLVED even if Clinton wins the race. If they do, we will in in the fall. If they don't, it will be much harder.

I also hope, if she gets the nomination, that she asks Obama to be her Vice Presidential partner.

Indeed, Terry. Michigan is STOOPID. Yet another reason I'm glad to be leaving this god-forsaken backwater hellhole.

124 - yes, but MI moved up their primary date - before super tuesday, which is against the rules.

most of the candidates dropped out as a matter of principle [except hillary]. i think MI had their # of delegates cut in half or something as punishment.

wait, michigan is being completely disqualified? that's kind of assholish to the good people of michigan. i thought they still got half their delegates like in wyoming on the republicans side.

Obama will benefit from this loss. He needs to sharpen his rhetoric and the media needs to get over their romantic fascination with him. Only then can he win the nomination and the general election.

OBAMA'S CONCESSION SPEECH --

Not as good as Iowa. That Iowa speech nearly made me cry. This one was more a list of earmarks for Democratic faithful (teachersfarmersenvironment poorIraqpowertothepeopleetcetcetc). Gracious comments about fellow Demmy candies, I'll give him that. No mention of Hillary or Johnny by name.

Lots of rousing talk about "change" and "hope" and "yes, we can," but I swear to golly gee whillickers I think things just swung to "experience" (thank christ).

Well, Obama's concession speech was well done (though again a bit short on substance) and surprisingly gracious. However, did anyone notice that the first lines of the Stevie Wonder song that played as he walked off the platform were thus:
"Like a fool I went and stayed too long
Now I'm wondering if your love's still strong"

Poor choice?

YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!

only... today you didn't =O

Notice that there are now kids, not old fogeys, behind Hillary as she talks.

OMonique, I'm looking at the Concord Monitor's page:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2008/by_state/NH_Page_0108.html?SITE=NHCONELN&SECTION=POLITICS

"I found my own voice."

Powerful. Wow. Watch out Republican bitches!!!

If we're going to start talking about experience and Clinton wants to talk about the 90s, then I guess it's time to dust off my copy of _An Invitation To The White House : At Home With History_ to get caught up with her 8 years of experience in the WH!

Going for the yoof vote...

Don't forget It Takes a Village, written by 25 White House staffers with occasional supervision by Ms. Clinton, and vetting by the professionals down the hall.

@135


If experience was so important, then the 22nd amendment wouldn't be in the constitution, but then in the tradition started by GWB, I guess the constitution doesn't mean much anymore.

Big Sven @48: Because I live in Hawaii, and my primary is not until the end of February. So in terms of who wins the nom, I get no say.

I will happily vote for whomever wins the Dem nom, but Hillary is not my top choice. That's all.

@144 -- Big difference between experience required to attain the presidency and the need to keep that experienced man or woman from becoming an embedded autocrat.

HILLARY'S VICTORY SPEECH --

Less accomplished oratory, but the audience is a bunch of flinty New Englanders so I doubt they gave a fuck...but the audience is every state to come so she needs to be substantive and compelling at every stop.

Notable play to youth ("predatory student loan companies") and their hearts and MINDS. Very astute phrasing on her part. Also, as previous poster noted, young people herded by the handlers as the backdrop.

Big fun! On with the race!

@136 Obama plays that song at every rally - no big deal.

On that Sullivan quote -
"...the Clintons deserve credit for pulling this off..."

Ok, so people complain about Hillary trying to take credit for her husband's achievements...but this is unfair to credit Hillary's achievements to her husband. I've been wondering if pundits have been putting words in her mouth. This sort of confirms it for me.

Bill DID speak recently, but I don't think he deserves any credit for this.

Also, all this talk of a "comeback" is annoying. For a few days, Obama enjoyed the glow of a victory in a relatively small state (Iowa). Is that such an astounding "lead?"

By the way, Grafton county went for Clinton, 99 votes to 93.

i'm still waiting for grafton county

Poor Eli...REWRITE!!! :-)

Bill's been a constant presence in her campaign. He gets almost as much media time as she does. It's a collective effort.

Dianna@145:

Sorry. I misunderstood.

But as a consolation prize, you get to live in paradise. Lumahai Beach on the north side of Kaui'i is pretty much my favorite place on earth. I might trade my enfranchisement for a chance to dip my toes in the sand bar every morning...

We're at 89% now, and Clinton is up almost 7,000 votes. She's going to top 100,000, which in New Hampshire is very impressive indeed (so is Obama, most likely). It's a very solid thumping.

My bad: 99 to 93 is Grafton town, not Grafton County. Grafton county is much larger, and for Obama, 45% to 32%, with 83% in -- nowhere near enough, though.

The story that's going to get pushed to the back pages (since Americans seem only capable of considering two opposing ideas or rivals at a time) is what now for Progressive Candidate Edwards?

I'm so proud of my gurl. Ugh! Fuckin' bitches!

Edwards needs to get the fuck out of the race. He hoped to make it a two man race by knocking Hillary out. Didn't happen, game over. It's time for him to go.

Regarding Dan's comment of

"And the youth vote that put Obama over the top in Iowa? Didn’t materialize in New Hampshire."

I just wanted to say that I am a young(ish) NH voter at 27 and most of the younger folks I know voted, and for Obama. However, NH just doesn't have much of a younger vote to get out. Population wise we're one of the older states in the country. Still, the Concord Monitor's (local paper) numbers do show that a lot more Dems than republicans seem to have turned out this year so maybe that can count for something.

@160 -- Thank you for voting Democratic and yes, It does count for something.

It counts as practice.

Because the real job comes next. When you and your fellow 20-somethings will need to go out for the real deal: the general election. You and EVEN MORE OF YOU will need to turn out in FORCE for the general.

Your candidate may not have won the nomination, but you need to go out and vote for the Dem anyway. I can see the Dem race getting VERY ugly, indeed. Remember, we did not get our "circular firing squad" reputation for nothing. But, if you can, put that behind you and rally 'round.

Because this election is going to be about the future of America. The Supreme Court can handle only one more conservative, pinch-faced, church-a'goin' justice before we all end up in the gated-community version of a nation.

A nation where Rev. Fred Hutcherson is named to head the SEC.

Full on surreal, bitches.

So get ready to rumble, youth. Get ready to work, work, and work again. And then have just enough energy left to get to the polls.

Thank you NH! You gave us a second straight dose of electoral history, and you TURNED OUT! Well done.

Jubilation, you could be the long lost brother I never knew I had.

Mr. Horsepower tattoo on your arm?

what, Iowa is a high-youth demographic?
High-yield breeders, like their their corn?

Doubtful.

Meanwhile U. of NH wins America's top slacker college acronym.
Q: "where do you go to school?
A: "Unh"

@162 -- No, but I do have a tattoo of the England footy flag on my shoulder...