Slog - Comments on Here We Go... http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2 UPDATE: With 66% of precincts reporting... DEM: Obama 36%, Clinton 39%, Edwards 17% NBC and AP have called New Hampshire for Clinton. Says Sullivan: We'll have plenty to chew over in the coming days. But the Clintons deserve congratulations for pulling this off. This will now become a brutal, long slog. Maybe that's for the best. Can't argue with that--but we're partial to brutal, long slogs. ••• UPDATE: With 61% of precincts reporting... DEM: Obama 36%, Clinton 39%, Edwards 17% Found these two graphs up at the NYT right now... Mrs. Clinton said she expected to lose the New Hampshire... Copyright 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:45:45 -0800 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:04:45 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by lostboy With 4% of precincts reporting…

...didn't Iowa still look like a 3-way tie?  Wake me up when the sample is large enough to mean anything.

]]> lostboy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893619 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893619 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:42:00 -0800 Comment by Mahtli69 Well, Edwards is toast. I'm glad we finally got that over with.

]]> Mahtli69 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893624 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893624 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:43:51 -0800 Comment by tsm Please don't update this every 2%.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893626 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893626 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:45:33 -0800 Comment by lostboy With 4% of precincts reporting… Clinton 33%
UPDATE: With 6% of precincts reporting… Clinton 37%

I rest my case.

]]> lostboy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893628 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893628 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:45:55 -0800 Comment by Fonky Please don't update until it means something. Otherwise I'm going to start wasting precious cognitive resources thinking over the results before they're anywhere near conclusive. Shame shame.

]]> Fonky http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893642 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893642 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:51:15 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball Hey Dan, thanks -- will be interesting.

A bit OT, but was wondering why, from your perspective, do so many media outlets not run the time polls close in their articles? I just did a review of CNN and MSNBC, and Manchester Union Leader and they all mentioned the polls opened at midnight in thos two tiny-towns, but not a peep about the close.

That's why your results are a surprise to me.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893646 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893646 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:54:58 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways not that excited as long as Governor Huckleberry continues to do poorly...

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893650 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893650 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:55:56 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Geesh, just embargo the numbers until i get downtown to the Obama party, ok?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893653 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893653 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:58:35 -0800 Comment by josh UPDATE: With 9% of precincts reporting… Clinton 37.5%

(meanwhile, polls are staying open late to accommodate turnout.)

]]> josh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893658 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893658 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:02:06 -0800 Comment by kim and now hillary's ahead by 2%

]]> kim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893660 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893660 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:02:34 -0800 Comment by Big Sven tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime to throw up...

(I must say that as a Clinton supporter, the statistically insignificant yet wholly unexpected early lead has me flush with excitement.)

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893670 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893670 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:12:15 -0800 Comment by tsm McCain wins in NH, sez CNN.

Oh well, hopefully it'll be a long, drawn-out, painful GOP primary with Huckabee coming out bruised.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893671 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893671 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:13:15 -0800 Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me If Obama and Clinton trend this close a spread all the way through to the end, whoever comes in second is going to go all Sore/Loserman all over Hew Hampshire’s ass for not having enough ballots and having inadequate polling facilities… The lawyers must be salivating already… this should be hysterical… (I bet Hillary already has Gregoire’s ballot finders on tap…)

]]> You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893674 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893674 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:14:25 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Go Hilly!!!

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893675 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893675 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:16:20 -0800 Comment by tsm Edwards is toast ... that much seems clear.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893676 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893676 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:17:02 -0800 Comment by arduous @ Big Sven, you and me both! But I think she was expected to win Manchester, and that's where all the votes have been coming in from.

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893678 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893678 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:17:56 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 @16 some of the other counties with lower % of reporting seem more Obama than Clinton, though McCain seems really consistent across the state

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893681 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893681 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:20:47 -0800 Comment by So Funny Kucinich has opened up a 1% lead over Randy Crow!

]]> So Funny http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893683 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893683 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:23:22 -0800 Comment by tsm Oh, geez. Don't make it McCain. He has the best chance of any of 'em.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893684 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893684 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:23:34 -0800 Comment by i love my hourlong commute who is crow? According to
http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1102 at 5:25 PM PST Crow has 441 votes as a Democratic candidate...

]]> i love my hourlong commute http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893685 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893685 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:25:48 -0800 Comment by johnnie Randy Crow -
In 2000 I drove around Iowa and I ran in the Democratic Presidential Primaries in New Hampshire and Louisiana and in 2004 I drove around Iowa (someone needs to sit me down and explain Iowa to me because I have not figured it out yet) more and I ran in the Democratic Presidential Primaries in New Hampshire and Texas, so 2008 will not be my first rodeo. My web site Randy Crow Democrat for President, http://www.randycrow.com/ has been live since 1998 or so and usually I get 100,000 hits per month or so and this is more hits than even the so called big time candidates. So far I have spent over $70,000.00 of my own money running for political office, presently I am running for county commissioner and it is my 13 th election. I have bad mouthed Little George before bad mouthing Little George was cool. September 11 was obviously a scam. The bad guys are laying on the planet the lie three massive building were brought down by fuel catching on fire in two planes whose fuel could not have generated enough heat to bring down a one story building. Nuclear bombs had to have been detonated in the buildings to bring them down with very sophisticated delayed action built in to the math. Why? Why is the world being lied to on such a massive scale? There are a bunch of bad guys making war on the United States so they can destitute the American people to force us to lick their boots and be their slaves. There are many reasons I have run for President for the last seven years or so. I love America. I do not want to see Karl Rove type of Neocons steal and destroy a great country from great people because of their cheap near do well wannabe scams and lies.
http://conservativepresident2008.blogspot.com/2006/09/randy-crow-fiscal-conservative.html

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893692 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893692 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:33:39 -0800 Comment by max solomon hillary on top? now it makes all the post-iowa obits HILARIOUS in retrospect.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893697 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893697 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:34:49 -0800 Comment by So Funny Vermin Supreme (GOP) has 5 votes, opening up a 1 vote lead over Neal Fendig

]]> So Funny http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893698 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893698 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:35:47 -0800 Comment by DOUG. Dan: re: 2000 votes... that's apples & oranges. It looks like twice as many Dems than Repubs are turning out, which is a GOOD THING!

]]> DOUG. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893699 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893699 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:36:11 -0800 Comment by patrick competition is good....no obvious front runners is better....a continued debate is vital...I don't want O or C to win...but I don't want either of them to become the lead on the second state of this long national nightmare

]]> patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893703 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893703 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:38:20 -0800 Comment by burnout Cat blamed for Idaho blackout
1 hour, 16 minutes ago
A cat picked the wrong place to come in from the cold, and caused a
power outage that blacked out more than 12,000 homes and businesses. The
cat entered an electrical substation, snuggled up to a warm transformer
and contacted a live circuit, causing a short that blew out nine feeder
lines Monday afternoon, Idaho Power officials said.
Service was restored in less than three hours to most customers,
including City Hall where the lights came on in time for a City Council
meeting, utility spokesman Dennis Lopez said.
The outage also disabled traffic lights in the city of about 77,000
people. Temporary stop signs were set up at affected intersections and
about 15 police officers were assigned to direct and monitor traffic.
Police Lt. Eric Skoglund said he didn't know of any accidents that could
be blamed on the outage.
The short circuit killed the cat.
Copyright (c) 2008 The Associated Press.


Yay!! I'm a hater on cats! I WIN!

]]> burnout http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893713 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893713 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:46:28 -0800 Comment by elenchos Cats? I'd say you're real enemy is text formatting, and hyper linking. At least cats don't crapflood.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893715 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893715 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:48:33 -0800 Comment by Anon Why are people still voting for Dodd & Biden? Wackos. Richardson, Kucinich, and Gravel need those votes so ABC won't exclude them from the next debate.

]]> Anon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893716 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893716 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:49:11 -0800 Comment by Mama's Girl My 72 year old mother just called to tell me she is optimistically hopeful that her girl Hillary will keep trending on top tonight. She was giddy albeit trying to maintain her reserve for now.

I am not as depressed as last night b/c my mama's hope to see a Democratic Woman President in her lifetime seems to still be alive.

I love you mama!

]]> Mama's Girl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893717 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893717 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:50:22 -0800 Comment by Dianna Man, this is looking shittier and shittier...if Clinton and McCain get noms, we could easily end up with another GOP president.

I wish I lived in a place where my vote counted.

]]> Dianna http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893718 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893718 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:51:22 -0800 Comment by Andy James Competition is good, I agree. But if Hillary wins tonight the campaign is over. She just has too much of the party establishment on her side, and they'll jump off Obama at the first whiff of their own fear.

Every. Single. Election. The Democrats do this. We almost go with our gut, then panic and pick the safe party choice. Who then goes on to lose.

]]> Andy James http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893721 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893721 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:54:24 -0800 Comment by giffy So Paul is below 10%. Can we offically declare him an old meme now? Granted he was funny for a while and his supporters provided great lulz, but its gotten pretty old.

]]> giffy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893723 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893723 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:55:46 -0800 Comment by tsm @32 - no, no! Keep the money coming, Paulistas! Get him running a third party campaign!

I can't believe Hillary might be pulling this off. Didn't see that coming.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893726 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893726 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:59:13 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty 40%. Wow. Considering that a lot of people didn't even think she would finish second, that is a good, old-fashioned butt whupping.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893732 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893732 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:03:12 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Looks that way. I'm surprised. So are a lot of real analysts. I think even Clinton is surprised. I can't wait for the postmortems.

But anyone suggesting that anything is "over" for anybody needs to take a pill. Among the Big Three, that is. Richardson should quit now.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893734 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893734 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:06:27 -0800 Comment by kim go hillary go! watching romney's concession speech now...why is he talking about the olympics? i'm glad to see kucinich is earning thousands of votes. that's cool.

]]> kim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893737 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893737 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:10:32 -0800 Comment by Fnarf OOh, it's tightening. 31% in, 39% to 36%, about 2,600 votes. This ain't over.

Kucinich has barely a thousand votes, not "thousands". 2%. Lame.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893739 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893739 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:12:46 -0800 Comment by hell yeah go hilary, go!

]]> hell yeah http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893741 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893741 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:14:34 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 34% in, back to 40-36.

Kucinich drops to 1%. Can he finish higher than Total Write-ins?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893742 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893742 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:14:35 -0800 Comment by brandon H Come on Obama, get your ass in gear!

Damn old people and their right to vote!

:-P

I still stand by my "anyone but a republican" philosophy though.

]]> brandon H http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893743 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893743 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:15:03 -0800 Comment by mmmmkay ewwwwwwwww hillary gurl, why you so fierce.

]]> mmmmkay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893744 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893744 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:15:26 -0800 Comment by johnnie I never knew McCain said "Warshington." That's embarassing.

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893746 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893746 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:17:07 -0800 Comment by dang the news is so stupid, they are all too afraid to call it for hillary. if it was obama leading by 1% they woulda called it hours ago.

]]> dang http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893747 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893747 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:17:35 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Um, they're not calling it because it's not over. 37% in, 39-36. Barely three thousand votes.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893749 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893749 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:20:56 -0800 Comment by Andy James #43, that's because the more rural and Hillary-friendly votes are supposed to be coming in first. Even Mitt is closing his unclosable gap with McCain as the night goes on.

]]> Andy James http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893751 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893751 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:21:58 -0800 Comment by johnnie Calling something doesn't make it so, regardless. Just wait for it to play out.

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893752 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893752 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:22:19 -0800 Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me Where do you suppose Billary's henchmen are putting Obama's ballot boxes?

]]> You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893754 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:23:30 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Dianna@30, just curious: why don't you think your vote counts? Are you just having a tantrum because your candidate may or may not win tonight? Is that really an indictment of the whole system?

Though I am an unabashed Clinton supporter, I was delighted at all the youth turnout in Iowa last week. Should Clinton get the nomination, our country will be in big trouble if all those recently politically engaged young folk turn their tails and sulk out the general election.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893756 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893756 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:26:00 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 39% in, still 39-36 -- but less than 3,000 votes. Someone called "O. Savior" is holding steady with 8.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893757 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893757 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:26:04 -0800 Comment by tsm They probably aren't calling it because the exit polls suggest Obama could still pull ahead. The last group of precincts that report are often very different demographically.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893760 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893760 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:27:25 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Damn Obama Supports...Don't hate. =)

Jesus, I can't believe how close the race is.

Go Clinton! Gurrrl.

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893762 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893762 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:27:49 -0800 Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me GO BILLARY!!! You're the last great hope of the Republican party! (Obammy had me worried for a while there...)

]]> You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893765 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893765 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:28:58 -0800 Comment by Gomez At least the party's not throwing all their eggs in a milquetoast basket right off the bat, a la 2004 with Kerry.

Whether Obama or Hillary, looks like we're going to get an interesting, intelligent, contentious candidate on the blue side in 2008.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893769 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893769 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:32:04 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt Gack. I hope Senator Obama pulls it off. I mean, it's not that I have anything against the Clinton Crime Family, but I just can't get that excited about a triangulating NY Senator whose votes in the senate are calculated to help her run for president and don't, you know, really reflect what she believes. Well, I take that back. She believes that she deserves to have power. So I guess her votes DO make sense. I just don't like it. . . .

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893771 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893771 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:32:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 41% in, 39-37. 2300 votes. O. Savior picks up another! I think Obama's going to pull this one out.

Of course, "winning" is relative; the winner will get the same number of delegates as second place, or maybe just a few more. It's not winner takes all.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893773 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893773 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:34:26 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 44% in, 39-36 again. 2800 votes. O. Savior slips behind Tom Koos and Henry Hewes.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893775 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893775 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:36:10 -0800 Comment by Marko Constans 52% in. Melvin Fozzdick pulling huge upset. His policy to retroactively ban immigration pulled in undecideds.

]]> Marko Constans http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893779 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:40:06 -0800 Comment by josh @45, it's the "urban" areas that seem strongest for Clinton so far while rural is going for Obama:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/NH.html

... unless it's the "rural" parts of the "urban" counties that have been counted?

]]> josh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893780 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893780 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:40:14 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Sullivan says neither of the big college towns have reported yet. They're anticipated to be huge for Obama. He's down by 3100 votes now.

Funniest number: Giuliani, 9%. Of all these Republican candidates, there's a lot not to like about each of them, but the only one I really, really hate is Rudy. He's just a contemptible human being, and it's fun watching his shit dribble down the drain after all the money he spent there.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893783 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893783 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:41:14 -0800 Comment by uwmatthew I'm just thankful Edwards is out of it. I'd be thrilled with either Clinton or Obama.

]]> uwmatthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893784 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893784 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:43:54 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi There needs to be some sort of agreement not to call a race when a piddling number of ballots have been counted. Thirteen percent, really? How about waiting until a few more voters get their voices heard?

Sheesh.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893787 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893787 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:45:03 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 48% in, 39-36, 4100 votes now. Fuck NASCAR, this is exciting.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893788 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893788 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:46:19 -0800 Comment by Noa CLINTOWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> Noa http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893789 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893789 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:47:23 -0800 Comment by tsm Seems like the tears (or "tears") brought in the female votes. Or, maybe Edwards just lost some female supporters at the last minute due to his half-assed comments about Hillary.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893790 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893790 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:48:08 -0800 Comment by gnossos @64 I'm wondering the same thing tsm. Why the big swing in female votes? Turned on by Clinton's display of emotion or repulsed by the male response?

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893793 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893793 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:50:22 -0800 Comment by patrick Ralph Reed just tossed Bill Bennetts salad on national television.

]]> patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893795 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893795 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:53:06 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 50% in, 39-36. 3700 votes.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893796 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893796 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:53:09 -0800 Comment by gnossos and Fnarf @ 82, yep way better than Nascar...and why I flippin hate mail in balloting...all the excitement of election night return watching just gone, while we wait days and days for results to trickle in.

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893801 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893801 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:55:21 -0800 Comment by karst Damnit. Its gonna take a snuke in the sniz to stop Hilldog.

]]> karst http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893802 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893802 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:55:29 -0800 Comment by gnossos oops, Fnarf @ 62...

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893803 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893803 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:56:02 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 53% in, 39-37. 3400 votes.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893804 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893804 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:56:18 -0800 Comment by terry miller go hillary go!

]]> terry miller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893808 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893808 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:59:21 -0800 Comment by tsm Mind you, if Edwards drops out soon, I have a feeling Obama will get his delegates.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893809 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:59:34 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt @72. Really, Terry? REALLY?

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893813 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893813 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:01:45 -0800 Comment by drok @73 - Sounds reasonable, especially in light of Saturday's back-slapping debate. Methinks some Obama/Edwards fan fiction might be in order...

]]> drok http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893814 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893814 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:03:01 -0800 Comment by jean enersen's skin ugh, if anything I think it's Edwards that flubbed this for Obama this weekend. I'm wishing Hillary had come in second in Iowa now.

]]> jean enersen's skin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893817 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893817 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:06:45 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 59% in -- 39-37. 3500 votes. Obama's gotta move here pretty soon or it'll be too late.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893820 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893820 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:07:35 -0800 Comment by Noa 61%

Clinton: 62,009 - 39%
Obama: 57,941 - 36%
Difference: 4,068

]]> Noa http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893822 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893822 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:08:52 -0800 Comment by terry miller yes matthew. really.

although i'll be proud to vote for obama or hill come nov. anybody but gop!

]]> terry miller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893823 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893823 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:09:09 -0800 Comment by RainMan I'm more nervous about McCain. He's the only Republican who could actually win in November.

]]> RainMan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893824 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893824 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:09:43 -0800 Comment by Big Sven I like how Sullivan is quoting Mark Steyn as to why Obama will still win NH. Steyn's been right about the success Iraq invasion, the death of bin Laden, the death of the insurgency- he's gonna be right about this too!!!

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893825 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893825 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:10:01 -0800 Comment by brandon looking pretty hillarific at this point....

]]> brandon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893826 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893826 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:10:03 -0800 Comment by tsm @76 - I think you may be right. Edwards seems to have performed unexpectedly poorly here. If he lost votes to Clinton, that could pull her ahead.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893827 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893827 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:10:23 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Just noticed on the Republican board a candidate by the name of "Vermin Supreme". 23 votes, not too shabby.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893828 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893828 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:13:52 -0800 Comment by Andy James Ladies and Gentlemen:

President McCain.


I have heard people say they felt like throwing up in moments like these, but I never believed it. I'm actually trembling I feel so sick.

]]> Andy James http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893833 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893833 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:15:57 -0800 Comment by Fnarf 62%, 39-36. 4300 votes. I think Obama's going down tonight, unless those college kids come through.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893834 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893834 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:16:25 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Yay! Terry is for Hillary!

Go Hillary you can do it! Wooooo!

@Fnarf: Doesn't matter if they get the same number of delegates. This is a win in the minds of the people and the disgusting media that has blown out of proportion her eyes misting as "crying" and her voice breaking as "a break down". Saying she was losing it. Bullshit flim flam artists. All of them.


]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893838 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893838 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:18:48 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Oh, come on, Andy, get a grip. It's an early primary in a cheeseball state. Doesn't mean a thing. McCain's a LONG ways from being President.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893839 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893839 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:19:04 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Well fer'shizzle my kazizzle, I think she's gonna do it. Damn.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893841 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893841 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:21:27 -0800 Comment by Matt According to yahoo...
Voter breakdown by party:
Dems: 26%
Reps: 30%
Indi: 44%

Sepulate what this means. go...

]]> Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893842 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893842 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:21:32 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball New pic up on MSNBC right now -- Hillary with a big smile. It's nice to see.

Usually a pic like that is a precursor to them calling it. Only a few moments now, I reckon...but anything could happen!

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893844 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893844 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:21:50 -0800 Comment by terry miller i believe gomer huckleberry will be the nom for the gop.

]]> terry miller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893845 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893845 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:22:05 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt @79. Awesome. I'm surrounded by Obama people and have been leaning that way. But I'm with you--anybody but the GOP. I just like this horse race in the Dem party and how it's energizing people.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893846 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893846 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:22:27 -0800 Comment by patrick Desperate Housewives support John Edwards.

He is crying inside.

check youtube for the video.

]]> patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893847 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893847 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:22:44 -0800 Comment by tsm "I, for one, welcome our new Clintonian overlords. I'd like to remind them that, as a trusted Slog commenter, I can be helpful in rounding up others to waste time as they toil in their lifeless cubicles."

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893848 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893848 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:22:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf It's nice to see Clinton being rewarded for the biggest policy failure in the history of the Democratic Party -- the rollover on Iraq.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893850 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893850 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:23:34 -0800 Comment by Sano You hardline dems are so "funny" with your "anyone but gop" attitudes. I'll vote for Obama if he gets the eventual nomination, but if Hillary gets it -- sorry, I'm voting McCain or Green.

]]> Sano http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893852 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893852 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:23:57 -0800 Comment by meow @76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

]]> meow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893853 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893853 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:00 -0800 Comment by meow @76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

]]> meow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893854 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893854 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:15 -0800 Comment by meow @76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

]]> meow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893855 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893855 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:18 -0800 Comment by meow @76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

]]> meow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893856 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893856 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:19 -0800 Comment by meow @76 & 83 i hope so, then maybe all of his votes will go to HRC.

]]> meow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893857 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893857 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:19 -0800 Comment by patrick Alexis has a cleft palette.

She votes for Edwards.

Lou has halitosis.

He votes for Edwards.

Hilary has dry eye. She cries during brunch.

]]> patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893858 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893858 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:25:38 -0800 Comment by arduous so does this mean my vote in california might actually count?!

go hillary go!!

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893860 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893860 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:26:29 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Fnarf, would you like some cheese with that whine?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893861 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893861 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:26:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf I'm just reacting to the video of Bill attacking Obama on Iraq. The gall, the unmitigated gall.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893862 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893862 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:28:33 -0800 Comment by brandon you mean the one where bill clinton called him a liar? yeah, that's pretty rich.

]]> brandon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893866 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893866 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:30:27 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt @106--Plus, his attacks aren't really based in reality. He leaves out key parts of what Obama actually said. I'm just shocked that Bill Clinton would lie or mislead the public.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893867 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893867 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:30:29 -0800 Comment by johnnie @97 - Would you like to explain your logic? Obama and McCain couldn't be further from each other, while Obama and Clinton have almost mirror voting records. Or are you voting for you want as your best friend here, not as the president?

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893869 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893869 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:30:41 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Race called for Hillary on CNN!

Hells yeah bitches!!!

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893870 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893870 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:33:04 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball SHE WON SHE WON SHE WON!!!

NBC JUST CALLED IT!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893871 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893871 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:33:28 -0800 Comment by brandon ugh...

]]> brandon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893872 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893872 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:33:42 -0800 Comment by gnossos On NPR, two suggestions for why polls differed so much from results:

1. Return to previous patterns where folks tell pollsters that they're willing to vote for a black, but in the privacy of the booth don't follow through.

2. Shift in the previous 24 hours of female impressions of Clinton, thanks to the coffeehouse display of emotion. A shift too late for the polls to catch up with.

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893873 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893873 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:33:59 -0800 Comment by tsm @110 - nope. Not yet.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893874 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893874 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:34:06 -0800 Comment by old ladies I'm going to puke.

]]> old ladies http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893875 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893875 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:34:22 -0800 Comment by Andy James Fnarf:

It is indeed one tiny podunk state, but the party apparati are eager to have this thing over and last time around it was over by this time. Hillary's narrative coming out of this will be so overwhelming that people will know they're not allowed to support Obama anymore. Their "false hopes" are over, time for another dutiful robot candidate.

Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, H. Clinton. Over and frickin' over.

That said, I congratulate Hillary's fans and hope she can win.

]]> Andy James http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893876 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893876 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:34:44 -0800 Comment by terry miller i told you all that the obamites booing her at the debate would backfire.

i also think that the moderator who asked her the question about why people like him more is going to burn in hell forever for being a dick.

]]> terry miller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893878 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893878 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:35:11 -0800 Comment by gnossos NPR just called it for Clinton.

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893880 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893880 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:35:49 -0800 Comment by mark look out for Grafton county...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NHDEM9

]]> mark http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893882 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893882 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:37:22 -0800 Comment by jean enersen's skin If Obama doesn't get the nomination and Hillary loses the general election, this is going to be inexcusable.

]]> jean enersen's skin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893883 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893883 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:38:30 -0800 Comment by tsm Doh! AP called it. Well, shit. Perhaps I'm misguided, and having a candidate that doesn't already repulse half the electorate isn't so important after all.

OK, end of gripe.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893887 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893887 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:46 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @120 -- "Jean Enersen's Skin" LOLOLOLOLOL

Oh god, you fucking rule.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893892 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893892 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:42:25 -0800 Comment by Original Monique @Fnarf: Where are you finding the write-in ballot names? I can't find actual numbers other than on CNN....obviously I am inept at google.

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893899 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893899 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:48:35 -0800 Comment by terry miller did i just hear right? obama isn't even on the michigan ballot so that's a shoe-in for clinton? it was on npr, but i was preoccupied at my sons gymnastics class.

can anyone confirm that?

]]> terry miller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893901 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893901 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:49:37 -0800 Comment by Original Monique I am wondering what will happen when Obama and Hillary team up against McCain/Guiliani and the GOP wins.

Then I guess we won't be able to say that either one was "more electable" than the other.

I hope the GOP doesn't win, but I think this next presidential race is going to be a nail-biter, regardless of which Dem is leading.

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893906 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893906 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:52:11 -0800 Comment by tsm @124 - The Democratic party is currently disqualifying Michigan's delegates because Michigan is holding its primary too early for the party's liking. So Hillary may win, but it also may be to no particular end.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893908 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893908 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:53:22 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt You know what gets me the most, I think? Seeing Hillary after Iowa, surrounded by people from her husband's administration. I don't want to have Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright (!!!) and the rest of 'em back in the White House. This isn't a restoration. Perhaps I should start listening to "The Best Pop of the 90s" and dust off my little blue dress just to prepare. . .

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893910 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893910 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:53:51 -0800 Comment by arduous terry, yes this is true. michigan pissed off the democratic machine by moving up their primary so hillary is the only one on the ballot. but because of it, michigan only gets half of its usual delegates.

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893911 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893911 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:54:01 -0800 Comment by patrick Have you ever been in a corridor of shame?

]]> patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893912 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893912 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:54:25 -0800 Comment by Big Sven I just hope to god that all the new voters that love Obama will STAY INVOLVED even if Clinton wins the race. If they do, we will in in the fall. If they don't, it will be much harder.

I also hope, if she gets the nomination, that she asks Obama to be her Vice Presidential partner.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893914 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893914 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:55:14 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt Indeed, Terry. Michigan is STOOPID. Yet another reason I'm glad to be leaving this god-forsaken backwater hellhole.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893915 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893915 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:55:28 -0800 Comment by brandon 124 - yes, but MI moved up their primary date - before super tuesday, which is against the rules.

most of the candidates dropped out as a matter of principle [except hillary]. i think MI had their # of delegates cut in half or something as punishment.

]]> brandon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893917 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893917 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:55:44 -0800 Comment by arduous wait, michigan is being completely disqualified? that's kind of assholish to the good people of michigan. i thought they still got half their delegates like in wyoming on the republicans side.

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893919 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893919 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:56:16 -0800 Comment by Jim Demetre Obama will benefit from this loss. He needs to sharpen his rhetoric and the media needs to get over their romantic fascination with him. Only then can he win the nomination and the general election.

]]> Jim Demetre http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893920 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893920 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:59:47 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball OBAMA'S CONCESSION SPEECH --

Not as good as Iowa. That Iowa speech nearly made me cry. This one was more a list of earmarks for Democratic faithful (teachersfarmersenvironment poorIraqpowertothepeopleetcetcetc). Gracious comments about fellow Demmy candies, I'll give him that. No mention of Hillary or Johnny by name.

Lots of rousing talk about "change" and "hope" and "yes, we can," but I swear to golly gee whillickers I think things just swung to "experience" (thank christ).

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893923 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893923 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:01:43 -0800 Comment by johnnie Well, Obama's concession speech was well done (though again a bit short on substance) and surprisingly gracious. However, did anyone notice that the first lines of the Stevie Wonder song that played as he walked off the platform were thus:
"Like a fool I went and stayed too long
Now I'm wondering if your love's still strong"

Poor choice?

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893925 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893925 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:03:50 -0800 Comment by Noa YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!


only... today you didn't =O

]]> Noa http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893926 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893926 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:05:48 -0800 Comment by tsm Notice that there are now kids, not old fogeys, behind Hillary as she talks.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893927 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893927 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:06:17 -0800 Comment by Fnarf OMonique, I'm looking at the Concord Monitor's page:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2008/by_state/NH_Page_0108.html?SITE=NHCONELN&SECTION=POLITICS

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893928 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893928 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:07:49 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball "I found my own voice."

Powerful. Wow. Watch out Republican bitches!!!

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893929 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893929 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:08:53 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt If we're going to start talking about experience and Clinton wants to talk about the 90s, then I guess it's time to dust off my copy of _An Invitation To The White House : At Home With History_ to get caught up with her 8 years of experience in the WH!

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893931 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893931 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:09:53 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball Going for the yoof vote...

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893934 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893934 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:11:55 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Don't forget It Takes a Village, written by 25 White House staffers with occasional supervision by Ms. Clinton, and vetting by the professionals down the hall.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893936 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893936 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:12:23 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton @135


If experience was so important, then the 22nd amendment wouldn't be in the constitution, but then in the tradition started by GWB, I guess the constitution doesn't mean much anymore.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893939 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893939 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:13:03 -0800 Comment by Dianna Big Sven @48: Because I live in Hawaii, and my primary is not until the end of February. So in terms of who wins the nom, I get no say.

I will happily vote for whomever wins the Dem nom, but Hillary is not my top choice. That's all.

]]> Dianna http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893941 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893941 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:13:40 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @144 -- Big difference between experience required to attain the presidency and the need to keep that experienced man or woman from becoming an embedded autocrat.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893945 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893945 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:15:01 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball HILLARY'S VICTORY SPEECH --

Less accomplished oratory, but the audience is a bunch of flinty New Englanders so I doubt they gave a fuck...but the audience is every state to come so she needs to be substantive and compelling at every stop.

Notable play to youth ("predatory student loan companies") and their hearts and MINDS. Very astute phrasing on her part. Also, as previous poster noted, young people herded by the handlers as the backdrop.

Big fun! On with the race!

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893966 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893966 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:22:03 -0800 Comment by Quincy @136 Obama plays that song at every rally - no big deal.

]]> Quincy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893979 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893979 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:28:07 -0800 Comment by On that Sullivan quote -
"...the Clintons deserve credit for pulling this off..."

Ok, so people complain about Hillary trying to take credit for her husband's achievements...but this is unfair to credit Hillary's achievements to her husband. I've been wondering if pundits have been putting words in her mouth. This sort of confirms it for me.

Bill DID speak recently, but I don't think he deserves any credit for this.

Also, all this talk of a "comeback" is annoying. For a few days, Obama enjoyed the glow of a victory in a relatively small state (Iowa). Is that such an astounding "lead?"

]]> http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893984 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893984 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:34:09 -0800 Comment by Fnarf By the way, Grafton county went for Clinton, 99 votes to 93.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893986 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893986 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:34:26 -0800 Comment by m i'm still waiting for grafton county

]]> m http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893998 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c893998 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:37:14 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball Poor Eli...REWRITE!!! :-)


]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894001 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894001 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:40:16 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Bill's been a constant presence in her campaign. He gets almost as much media time as she does. It's a collective effort.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894004 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894004 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:42:34 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Dianna@145:

Sorry. I misunderstood.

But as a consolation prize, you get to live in paradise. Lumahai Beach on the north side of Kaui'i is pretty much my favorite place on earth. I might trade my enfranchisement for a chance to dip my toes in the sand bar every morning...

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894019 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894019 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:56:13 -0800 Comment by Fnarf We're at 89% now, and Clinton is up almost 7,000 votes. She's going to top 100,000, which in New Hampshire is very impressive indeed (so is Obama, most likely). It's a very solid thumping.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894021 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894021 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:57:54 -0800 Comment by Fnarf My bad: 99 to 93 is Grafton town, not Grafton County. Grafton county is much larger, and for Obama, 45% to 32%, with 83% in -- nowhere near enough, though.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894025 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894025 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:01:41 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable The story that's going to get pushed to the back pages (since Americans seem only capable of considering two opposing ideas or rivals at a time) is what now for Progressive Candidate Edwards?

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894038 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894038 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:15:24 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe I'm so proud of my gurl. Ugh! Fuckin' bitches!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894046 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894046 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:20:33 -0800 Comment by Dan Savage Edwards needs to get the fuck out of the race. He hoped to make it a two man race by knocking Hillary out. Didn't happen, game over. It's time for him to go.

]]> Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894071 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894071 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:39:27 -0800 Comment by wintersong Regarding Dan's comment of

"And the youth vote that put Obama over the top in Iowa? Didn’t materialize in New Hampshire."

I just wanted to say that I am a young(ish) NH voter at 27 and most of the younger folks I know voted, and for Obama. However, NH just doesn't have much of a younger vote to get out. Population wise we're one of the older states in the country. Still, the Concord Monitor's (local paper) numbers do show that a lot more Dems than republicans seem to have turned out this year so maybe that can count for something.

]]> wintersong http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894073 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894073 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:41:22 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @160 -- Thank you for voting Democratic and yes, It does count for something.

It counts as practice.

Because the real job comes next. When you and your fellow 20-somethings will need to go out for the real deal: the general election. You and EVEN MORE OF YOU will need to turn out in FORCE for the general.

Your candidate may not have won the nomination, but you need to go out and vote for the Dem anyway. I can see the Dem race getting VERY ugly, indeed. Remember, we did not get our "circular firing squad" reputation for nothing. But, if you can, put that behind you and rally 'round.

Because this election is going to be about the future of America. The Supreme Court can handle only one more conservative, pinch-faced, church-a'goin' justice before we all end up in the gated-community version of a nation.

A nation where Rev. Fred Hutcherson is named to head the SEC.

Full on surreal, bitches.

So get ready to rumble, youth. Get ready to work, work, and work again. And then have just enough energy left to get to the polls.

Thank you NH! You gave us a second straight dose of electoral history, and you TURNED OUT! Well done.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894104 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894104 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:14:48 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Jubilation, you could be the long lost brother I never knew I had.

Mr. Horsepower tattoo on your arm?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894172 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894172 2008 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:19:26 -0800 Comment by unPC what, Iowa is a high-youth demographic?
High-yield breeders, like their their corn?

Doubtful.

Meanwhile U. of NH wins America's top slacker college acronym.
Q: "where do you go to school?
A: "Unh"

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894308 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894308 2008 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:38:00 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @162 -- No, but I do have a tattoo of the England footy flag on my shoulder...

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894358 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/here_we_go_2#c894358 2008 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:04:45 -0800