Jesus GOD but that was funny.

i was literally crying when i saw this the other night. BACKFAT BABY

Mmmm Back Fat. No need for translation.

Back fat is gross. Anyone who likes back fat clearly hates freedom.

That was hilarious, but what was up with that creepy anti-gay bigot? You look at that plastic-faced old man talking a little too enthusiastically about how most gay men like to drink each others' urine, and you wonder how anyone can take them seriously.

@5 - its almost like these paranoid freaks just sit around and think about gay sex all the time ;)

I loved that when I say it on TV.

As someone who's actually trained gays and women in the Army (Canadian Armed Forces), and led them, I know for a fact that it's a non-issue.

OK, except for the fact that we had a zero-tolerance treatment of sexual harassment of/by gay serving members.

No real problems in actual practice though. They did just as well as other soldiers did.

saw not say - damn, typed too fast

The best thing about that segment was that they ran it immediately before Bill Clinton came out to talk. It wasn't addressed in the interview, but it didn't have to be.

Inspired.

Being gay myself, I don't understand why any gay men or lesbians would want to join the US military. Why would you want to serve a right-wing country that hates you and condemns you?
Like it or not, most Americans have the same insane views as the "never too old to be a bigot" guy in the interview, despite the fact that almost all of our allies have already ended their bans on gays in the military successfully.
We should be spending our time and money helping gay men and women find successful careers in the private sector or government instead.

holy shit, I've never been more afraid of gays!!!

I don't personally understand why my fellow gays want to be in the military, either; but it would be nice if we at least had the option to decide for ourselves.

The "creepy anti gay bigot" -- Paul Cameron -- has been discredited by so many organizations it's hilarious. Google him; his data-collection methods alone are so faulty it's a hoot.

This segment was hilarious...but the situation of the army translator is not at all hilarious, it is in fact kind of frightening - here is (but one) example of the military's ridiculous policy that actually could be considered creating a threat to our national security.

gay men and women want to join the military for the same reasons straight men and women want to join.

patriotism, love of country, and a chance to remake oneself.

plus, the travel's kind of fun. I loved getting drunk in Germany, when on leave.

Is it just me or do all of these anti-gay bigots come off as looking and sounding as, oh I don't know, really. really gay?

Totally.

So, Pony Boy, are you named after the character from the S. E. Hinton novel The Outsiders, or are you a boytaur?

my favorite was when jones was leaning in for the kiss. i actually thought for a moment that they were going to kiss.
and speaking of gays on television..
anybody else see former new jersey govenor now gay jim mcgreevey on oprah yesterday ? it was encouraging in some aspects and totaally sad in others. but my question is how does a professed friend of gays like oprah be so completely clueless about gay life both closeted and and liberated ? ( actually oprah says that she has some gay friends as opposed to being a friend of the gays. meaning she tolerates gays as friends, but doesn't understand them at all ). she still trots out that anecdote about how her gay friend's ability to have sex with women only when mens pictures are readily available.an idea way more common than the one about how we like to drink each others piss.
geez

Yeah, I saw the Oprah thing too, and had a similar reaction.

Actually, Oprah's really been turning me off lately, and I used to be a fan. She seems real cluelessly avid about her own celebrity and playing up how special her life is (my houses! my assistants! my powerful friends!). Then when she tries to play her folksy card, it goes over with a thud. Tone-deaf. I don't get it.

And did you think maybe she was on speed last night? All the rapid-fire questions and interrupting.

What happened to my good ol' Ope?

Will,

Patriotism and love of country? At the risk of sounding like bad relationship advice, the US is just no good to us. I can't imagine feeling loyalty to a country whose people have done so little to earn it.
It's been so weird watching Canada and Europe rocket forward over the last 6 years socially while the good ole USA moves sharply backward.

Join Up With People if you want to travel. It's way more fun and you don't even have to kill anybody (usually).

Thank you for that, Andrew.

Join Up With People and people will kill themselves.

Or at least scratch their eardrums out.

You asked, I told you. If you were to go up and ask any gay person who served why they did, those are the two most common things they'd say.

Heck, it's why straights do it.

it's not my prob you don't want to admit it.

For me (and I'm not gay), it's not about letting in all the gays clamouring to get in the military. It's much more symbolic of the nation's attitude toward homosexuals. You may not want to specifically join the military, but the fact that your government that you're paying taxes to doesn't trust you is degrading.

I know at least two gay friends who joined the military for the same reasons my brothers and nephews did - to get their college paid for, and to learn a useful skill so they could have a job somewhat better than digging ditches or Wal-Mart greeter. Sometimes people forget how very limited the career opportunities for the very poor are. The military looks damned good when you know you have exactly zero chance of paying for college or getting anything better than a McJob otherwise. I very nearly joined myself; the only reason I didn't was that in those days, women were basically typists and household slaves in the military.

Geni,

You are absolutely right.

Our country doesn't give many (or any) opportunities to the poor or people from small towns anymore.

It's not like all those middle class manufacturing and other union jobs are going to come back. Nor are the former workers in those jobs going to become software developers or financial advisors in our NEW IMPROVED TOTALLY UNCRASHABLE information and "service" economy.

All I can hope is that someday, people will have better options through community college and job training programs than the military.

Bill Clinton... man, the last President said real things. Like, full, meaningful sentences.

The whole no-gays things is such bullshit. It's even more bullshit than it used to be - now both genders are fighting, so there's no way to keep ANYONE from having people of their preferred gender around.

Don't forget to thank Bill Clinton for this totaly fucked up policy next time you see him.

"Don't forget to thank Bill Clinton for this totaly fucked up policy next time you see him."

I'd love too, but I'm too busy praying that Satan is keeping the flames extra high on Ronnie Reagan's ass for totally ignoring AIDS for his two worthless terms.

If only he had been concious of his suffering, and it had lasted longer - that would have been true poetic justice.

They should play that clip every single night for eternity until they fix this retarded, un-American, policy.

Being a gay man I say, GAYS DO NOT BELONG IN THE MILITARY! Let the straights risk their lives I sure as hell do not want to. You guys fight the war and I will happily sit here and take vacations to london and have fun. Since I don't get equal rights I don't want to help YOU PEOPLE out when you need help. I see how it is. when times are good you say "AH don't want them gays around." But when YOU PEOPLE have a problem then you want ME to help you. Fuck off. I plan on living to 120 years old and having you people fight and die for me to be able to prance around freely and do whatever I want. So go straight people. Go to Iraq and fight for me. NOW! I command you. I will be sitting here sipping a martini while you are knee deep in camel poo. HA HA! and you say being gay is hard. No way. Being gay is GREAT!

Thanks David, I agree this whole seg is just great - funny - witty - and kicks butts in general. If you think about it - humor is the only way to deal with gays not in the army - such stupid blather policy to begin with.

Thanks, going to run it again. My staff is cackling too.