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Wednesday, October 15, 2008

The Future of American Politics

posted by on October 15 at 13:33 PM

Read this:

VIENNA, Austria (AP) — A spokesman for late Austrian politician Joerg Haider says the far-right leader was drunk at the time of his fatal car crash.
Joerg Haider died in a car crash in the Austria’s Carinthia region.

Joerg Haider died in a car crash in the Austria’s Carinthia region.

Stefan Petzner says Haider’s blood alcohol level was above the legal limit when he crashed his car early Saturday in the southern province of Carinthia where he was governor. Police said his car was speeding at twice the limit allowed when it crashed and flipped.

Petzner said Wednesday he felt obligated to confirm widespread speculation that the former Freedom Party leader was intoxicated. Haider’s funeral is set for Saturday.

Haider, who never held a post in the national government, was governor of the province of Carinthia at the time of his death and leader of the Alliance for the Future of Austria — a party he formed after breaking away from the far right Freedom Party in 2005.

It remained unclear what impact Haider’s death would have on talks to form a new coalition government.

And then look at this short video, which Dan posted earlier:

What is the connection? The real rupture in American politics is in the area of the Republican party. The exact location of this break is between its working-class base and the top layer of its professional/business elites. The break is not an isolated event but a part of the larger transformation of American politics—its current Europeanization. Obama’s rise to power is also a consequence of this process. The result of Obama’s presidency will be an increase of the government’s role in the management of civil society; as for the break in the GOP, the result will be an American political system that has three parts: the Dems, the Republicans, and the far right. Or put another way: Obama, McCain, and Palin. The post-Obama problem for the Republicans will be how to draw to its side the more moderate elements of the hegemonic block that the Dems consolidated in Denver. As for Palin’s far-right party, which, like its corresponding party in Austria, could well be called The Freedom Party, will remain powerful but never strong enough to control the political system.

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ah, at long last a comment from Charles that is practical.

thank you.

insightful always. meaningful/approachable? rarely.

Posted by ho' know | October 15, 2008 1:41 PM

This is what happens when Joe Six Pack gets behind the wheel.

Posted by flamingbanjo | October 15, 2008 1:46 PM

Sarah is the only hope against Barack Hussein Osama consolidating Marxist power in America.

She is the most brilliant woman in American politics, vand if the pro-Osama leftist media were honest - knowing of course that there is no such thing as an honest leftist - they would admit that.

I only wish it were possible to flip the Republican ticket and put Palin on top.

She'd get 60% of the vote because Americans would wake up and realize she is the only hope against the terrorist loving Marxist homosexual Barack Hussein Osama.

Posted by Lord Basil | October 15, 2008 1:48 PM

@3 - laff.

Posted by drunkel | October 15, 2008 1:53 PM

Basil, ol' bean....

Sherry in the morning is a vice.

Sherry by the gallon in the morning only makes you more....honest...about who you are.

Fair warning.

Posted by palamedes | October 15, 2008 2:02 PM

The hope that this might happen was about the only thing that cheered me up in 2004 after the election. I just knew that the hatred being pushed by the Republicans would one day backfire.

Posted by Balt-O-Matt | October 15, 2008 2:06 PM

What about the future of the North American politics, Harper was able to secure a larger Minority Government in the Canadian elections yesterday. What does that mean for our future home in the even of a Palin presidency?

Posted by vooodooo84 | October 15, 2008 2:11 PM

don't forget Haider was the Natzi lovin guy that was threatening to take his party over and such back in 98-2000 or so. It caught a lot of press back then and if I remember right, he was even a holocaust denier. He was very nationalistic and anti-socialism.

I'm not quite seeing the connection to the future of American politics here except that
he was an embarressment for many Austrians - sorta like Palin.

Posted by nos | October 15, 2008 2:18 PM

This sums up nicely how I've come to view this countries problems and the only real solution, I wish I wrote it because I've long thought it.

By Charlie Reese

[Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando
Sentinel Newspaper]

Politicians are the only people in the world who create
problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.

The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.

The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code,Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress
delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter
what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House?

She is the leader of the majority party.

She and fellow House members, not the
president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

They vote their own pay raises for themselves because they want it that way.

There are no unsolvable government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to
regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses provided the voters have the
gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Posted by Reality Check | October 15, 2008 2:18 PM

The Palinites (Palinians?) can simply flock to Alaska, secede, live off the oil money and wait for their expected "Rapture" when Christ returns.

How about we trade Alaska for Puerto Rico, and the flag can stay the same?

Posted by Andy Niable | October 15, 2008 2:28 PM

Two right-wing parties = joy for the left-wing party. Two left-wing parties = joy for the right-wing party (as Canadians keep discovering over and over, the shitheads).

Posted by Fnarf | October 15, 2008 2:49 PM

Canada can just give Palin Canadian citizenship and let her run for office in the Conservative party.

Posted by apres_moi | October 15, 2008 2:56 PM

As Jews we will flourish in a Marxist America. I can't wait. Seattle millioniaires will be taxed into oblivion.

Obama has the balls to tax some blue collar plumber in Ohio, so just wait to see him take down these rich Seattle assholes.

Marxism has finally arrived, it's going to be beautiful.

Posted by Issur | October 15, 2008 3:13 PM

@11 Sorry fnarf, I think you are wrong, while that statement has generally been true for the US, the Liberal have consistently been able to create large majorities despite the continued and steady existence of the NDP since the early/mid twentieth century.

The real source of political power for Canadian national governments is in Quebec, and in Quebec the distinction between left and right economics is not the most important yardstick by which political parties are measured.

In Quebec the division parties are divided on is on sovereignty vs. federalist

the Liberals are the strongest federalist party and the Bloc Quebecois are the strongest sovereignist part. The Conservatives have staked out a shaky unprincipled middle ground (though weighted more heavily towards federalist).

Posted by vooodooo84 | October 15, 2008 3:36 PM

The good 'ole USA, head'in for Civil War #2.

Posted by crazycatguy | October 15, 2008 3:39 PM

So the US will be ruled by the center-right, the far-right, and the wingtard lunatic fringe?

That should work out well.

Posted by Original Andrew | October 15, 2008 5:39 PM

Comparing Harper to Palin doesn't work. We may have elected a conservative minority, but this stems more from the collapse of the liberal party and voter apathy than any type of fervor. Only 20% of the country voted for Harper, the rest either voted left, bloc (duceppe is a farking rockstar) or stayed home. We have had 3 elections in 4 years, so people are pretty burned out. and our conservative governments are still further left than the american democrats.

Posted by ams | October 16, 2008 5:16 AM

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