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Posted by jackseattle | October 27, 2008 1:51 PM

Holy balls...

It's things like this that make me fear for the survival of our species, and question whether it even should.

Everyone, hate everyone.

Posted by bearseatbeats | October 27, 2008 1:53 PM

Racists are always the best evidence against their own case, you know with the whole supremacy thing and all.

Posted by Todd | October 27, 2008 1:54 PM

that is so punk rock

Posted by nofx | October 27, 2008 1:56 PM

Why 102?

Posted by levide | October 27, 2008 1:58 PM

Maybe there are 102 black people at the school.

Posted by Robin Sparkles | October 27, 2008 2:01 PM

@5,6: According to the stories, it's from 88 and 14, two big numbers in white supremacy. It's really sickening, but I'm not surprised. Lewis was more than 100% correct.

Posted by AJ | October 27, 2008 2:03 PM

Inciting people to violence is a felony. Somebody should remind Ms. Palin of that fact. After they explain to her what "felony" means. Also, "incite."

Posted by flamingbanjo | October 27, 2008 2:03 PM

This is what worries me:

They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying.

I mean, I'm sure there's no shortage of people who want to see Obama dead, but it's the people who are willing to sacrifice their own lives (as you'd most likely have to do to be able to pull it off) to get it done who are truly frightening.

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 27, 2008 2:03 PM

"The number 14 stands for the "14 Words statement." It was authored by white supremacist David Lane...The number 88 is an abbreviation for Heil Hitler. 'H' is the eighth letter of the alphabet; repeated twice, it yields HH. There is also some similarity in shape between '88' and 'HH', exploited to good effect by skinhead artists." etc...

Is it encouraging that they are catching these guys? And that they are all morons with harebrained schemes that would never work? Or should we worry that the haven't caught the ones with a good plan?

Posted by elenchos | October 27, 2008 2:07 PM

My first guess was 102 = the number of electoral votes John McCain will earn based entirely on racism. Fuckin' people. This story fills me with revulsion and loathing.

Posted by Hernandez | October 27, 2008 2:07 PM

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Posted by Lesley | October 27, 2008 2:08 PM

@8: And, for good measure, the meaning of "people".

With flashcards.

Hey-- has anyone seen Bailo?

Posted by AJ | October 27, 2008 2:08 PM

Re: Racist numerology. White supremacists think they're so smart, but they're not. They're really, really stupid.

Posted by Bub | October 27, 2008 2:14 PM

@9: Well, America has been mostly shielded from extremisms that are being dealt with in Europe and the Middle East. I don't think we'll be shielded much longer. I think with the economy going down, and more people having 'nothing to lose', this can only get worse for us. Poverty doesn't only lead to small time crime. Nowadays, it seems to also lead to more home-grown terrorism.

Which is fucked because Repubs think only their candidate can "keep us safe" but their own people are the ones causing all this stupid non-sense. Fucking bigots, the whole lot of the right wing party. Goddamnit I hate them all.

Posted by Original Monique | October 27, 2008 2:17 PM

CNN just said that the plot was poorly-formed & not very legitimate. Their idea of assassinating the (soon to be!) president was more of an afterthought to some of the other things they were planning on doing.

I know there's a collective holding of the breath as to whether or not Obama will be harmed, but I really think that it is better to keep the idea itself out of the ether.

There's too many fucking crazies with sawed-off shotguns and nothing to do. Not that they're reading slog, but do we really need to give them any ideas.

Posted by Notecarder | October 27, 2008 2:24 PM

Those boys'll have a real fine time in the Tennessee prison.

Posted by Dominic Holden | October 27, 2008 2:38 PM

Time to start hunting down these unpatriotic traitors who call themselves Republicans.

Posted by Will in Seattle | October 27, 2008 2:44 PM

Magneto was right.

Posted by Matthew | October 27, 2008 2:58 PM

My favorite game is searching MySpace for douches like these. I could only find one of them and his friend (girlfriend?) who helped them try to rob houses. Both are private but those are pretty cool pics.

Daniel Cowart: (mood: crazy)
Danni Stafford (friend): (mood: hopeful)

Posted by jrrrl | October 27, 2008 3:02 PM

Thank whatever God you may believe in that the desire and the ability to commit these kinds of heinous acts are rarely found together in the same person.

Posted by shub-negrorath | October 27, 2008 3:02 PM

I found the other guy on MySpace -- jackpot! Public profile with plenty of pics and racist comments and poop jokes!

Posted by jrrrl | October 27, 2008 3:15 PM

@15, item b: For years, Germany's conservative party, the Catholic Democrats (CDU), has been encouraging foreigner hatred and then encouraging foreigner haters to vote their ticket. The classic positioning-your-party-to-attract-dumb-voters-and-then-cutting-education-and -culture-budgets.

I won't even get started on Jörg Haider.

Posted by Amelia | October 27, 2008 3:32 PM

Is it true that John Bailo was one of the 2 arrested?

Posted by You're in the Jail House Now | October 27, 2008 3:47 PM

@24 - from your lips to God's ears.

Posted by Will in Seattle | October 27, 2008 3:48 PM


Yeah, but there was a surge in domestic terrorism in the '90s, even as we had an economic boom. Those incidents have been dropping off over the past eight years. I'm not convinced it's just a matter of economic trouble, at least in this country. I think it's also caused by right wing radicals feeling threatened. They're threatened by their losses in the culture wars.

Posted by keshmeshi | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

At what point do we give Obama a pope-mobile?

Posted by Keith | October 27, 2008 4:19 PM

The 14 Word Statement:

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

My Word Rebuttal:

I'm surprised these assholes can count.

Posted by Ryan | October 27, 2008 4:25 PM

@28 - I'm surprised they know of the existence of zero, actually.

Posted by Will in Seattle | October 27, 2008 4:41 PM

It's funny how nobody thinks to label these guys terrorists.

Oh, wait, terrorists have brown skin. I forgot.

Posted by stilettov | October 27, 2008 4:55 PM

"Poorly-formed" kinda goes with the territory.

"Both individuals stated they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt," the court complaint states.

I would expect the real danger lies elsewhere.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | October 27, 2008 5:49 PM
Posted by Ω | October 27, 2008 6:24 PM

my guess is this whole things maid up, it reeks of media manipulation.

Posted by billie chinook | October 27, 2008 8:36 PM

I breathed a sigh of relief as soon as I heard the plot begins with an attempted robbery of a gun shop: "Hey, heil Hitler and all's what we do: We walk into a room with people in it who have way more guns than we do and they know how to use them, then......" Idiots. No worries, my fellow liberal elitists, we're safe for now. : )

Posted by K | October 27, 2008 10:26 PM
Posted by elenchos | October 28, 2008 9:51 AM

Point taken, Elenchos, and shame on me for relying on annecdotal evidence - I was thinking about a story my husband tells about the post-Rodney King riots here in L.A. He was watching a store down the street go up in flames when several people rioted into a shop with looting on their minds. Laughing, he called his roommates to watch and they came outside just in time to see the terrified outlaws fleeing the, yes, gun store, pursued by well-armed and angry employees.

Posted by K | October 28, 2008 10:51 AM

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