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Any testimonials from couples whose marriages have been torn apart by the scourge of pastry addiction?

Posted by flamingbanjo | October 12, 2008 11:02 AM
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@1 Those are the My-Wife-Got-Fat-And-Now-I-Don't-Love-Her-Anymore breakups you used to see on Jerry Springer and the like. Funny that when your marriage is ruined over a pastry addiction, you're an asshole, but over a porn addiction and you're a martyr.

Posted by Augustus MacCrocodile | October 12, 2008 11:15 AM
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You can watch porn in a theater anytime. Fantasy Unlimited downtown.

Posted by H Kingsley | October 12, 2008 11:18 AM
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I like porn, but I don't live in Seattle. Any chance future years of HUMP! could feature a webcast so more of us good porn-loving people elsewhere in the world could enjoy it too? :)

Posted by Afreet | October 12, 2008 11:27 AM
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Just a quick reminder here that porn does cause some people problems.

And if you don't want people judging the attendees at HUMP!, I'd suggest not judging the Porn and Pastries people.

Posted by Andy | October 12, 2008 11:36 AM
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andy, the porn 'n pastries people already do judge hump attendees. regularly and viciously.

Posted by scary tyler moore | October 12, 2008 11:43 AM
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Three cheers for HUMP!

Posted by Sean | October 12, 2008 11:47 AM
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Porn doesn't cause anybody problems. It only exacerbates problems that may already exist.

Posted by Chris in Tampa | October 12, 2008 12:01 PM
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From the Times article:
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Presumably her husband could have used the "delete browsing history" tool on his computer although, she said, a woman just has a sense that the man in her life is spending time on those Web sites. The husband decided it was the Christian thing to do to tell his wife.

"That's why, she said, their home computer now has software that monitors its Web history. If a porn site is detected, a report is sent to the wife, as well as to a friend who's helping them out.

"There is no privacy when you're married," she said.
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Wow - just ... wow.

Posted by John Galt | October 12, 2008 12:07 PM
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Probably high calorie food intake is to blame for the most divorces, but I would bet one partner joining a fanatic church is a close second. A little porn on the side couldn't come close.

Posted by elenchos | October 12, 2008 12:07 PM
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Dan, I scanned the flier for the "porn weekend" and sent it to you in e-mail weeks ago, I assume you didn't get it? I also received a church "porn weekend" flier from another church on the Eastside but didn't bother to scan that one in.

And no, I have no idea why I'm on church anti-porn mailing lists. Best guess, I live close to the churches and they just blasted the neighborhood with their fliers.

Posted by PopTart | October 12, 2008 12:15 PM
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Suspicious women will always be suspicious. But it bears noting that squirrely men will always be squirrely.

Posted by mmm? No. | October 12, 2008 12:18 PM
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I grew up in extreme western Iowa, just across the Missouri river from Nebraska. Iowa is pretty laissez-faire when it comes to porn, and Nebraska is pretty overwrought about it: It's quite common to see billboards in Nebraska with a picture of a U of N football hero (who rank somewhere just above God in the Nebraska hierarchy) scowling at the camera, with the slogan "REAL MEN DON'T USE PORN"
printed beside him.

Because of this, there are adult book stores/porn theaters on the Iowa side of every bridge. The parking lots are always filled with Nebraska cars. It's an interesting comment on "real men" in Nebraska.

As for me, I'm unabashedly and enthusiastically "pro-porn" as long as it doesn't have kids, pets or unwilling participants in it. As for poor married Christian guys, as long as their not squandering the kid's college funds on pay-per-view or similar, or showing it to the children, let them have some fun.

Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay | October 12, 2008 12:48 PM
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oops, switch "their" to "they're". I guess I just had porn on the mind or something.

Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay | October 12, 2008 12:50 PM
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Mr. "computer sends a porn report to the wife AND neighbor" dude probably has a long list of proxy sites he can browse through. Also, there's no monitoring software in the world that can detect everything -- and it probably "detects" more non-porn sites than porn ones. Betcha anything The Stranger is on it.

Posted by Fnarf | October 12, 2008 12:50 PM
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@15 Well, the Stranger did post an awful lot of armpit porn a few weeks ago...

Posted by PopTart | October 12, 2008 12:59 PM
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You marry the whole person, not just the things you like. If his wife is such a bitch, yes bitch, he should dump her. I wouldn't let anybody rule my life like that. Life is to be enjoyed. That's also why I'd dump the fucking religion too! Fuck them buddy. Run for it. Tell them to kiss your ass. Especially if that bitch is living off your income. Tell her to hit the road!

Posted by Vince | October 12, 2008 1:32 PM
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@ #17, But what of the children?

Think of the children! The children!

Yes, I hope he thinks of the children when he hits the road. May he take 'em too or else they'll be pushed into some Christo-facist virginity pledge program and get knocked up in middle school....or worse, be turned into mommy's little man. Ick! (Yes, I have relatives in Idaho like this. Why do you ask?)

Posted by Y.F. | October 12, 2008 2:05 PM
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I'm confused -- are they saying you have to choose between porn and pastries? Because, frankly, I prefer both. At the same time, if possible.

Posted by whatevernevermind | October 12, 2008 2:10 PM
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Dan's implied sympathy for these guys is amazing. Did you not notice the last sentence in the quotation you selected: "...her spouse or boyfriend has been secretly spending a lot of time looking at porn on the Internet, often while espousing Christian values.

These guys are conservative Christians, which means that they oppose women's autonomy and equal rights for gays at the same time that they officially oppose pornography. If they're still looking at pornography, it's a classic case of hypocrisy and "for me but not for thee." They don't want women or gays to have sexual autonomy, but they're happy to break the rules for themselves.

It's the same deal with Ted Haggard and the rest of those Christian hypocrites. There's nothing wrong with using the services of a male prostitute; there's something wrong with doing that and then going to church on Sunday to heap hate on the homos.

Posted by keshmeshi | October 12, 2008 2:10 PM
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Making wives the guardians of their husbands' libidos is deeply disturbing. It makes me feel ill and squirmy. As if wives need to leash their husbands like dogs--wait, there's some porn potential here.

@17: At the same time, hearing a woman called a bitch several times with vitriol in a paragraph kinda makes me wanna throw up, even though I've unhesitantly called women bitches before myself (I'm female by the way.). Ah, hypocrisy. At least I try to own it.

Churches really need to spend more time on useful things like non-judgmentally comforting people, providing shelter and food, and raising questions that actually mean something (you know stuff about life purpose, how to get along with other humans, etc.). How about meetings for women that were about "Pastries and Personal boundaries"--as in not enmeshing yourself with another person and having a life of your own (i.e. job, money, interests, friends, computer)--instead of conditioning women to live through others?

Posted by porn indifferent atheist | October 12, 2008 2:43 PM
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Making wives the guardians of their husbands' libidos is deeply disturbing. It makes me feel ill and squirmy. As if wives need to leash their husbands like dogs--wait, there's some porn potential here.

@17: At the same time, hearing a woman called a bitch several times with vitriol in a paragraph kinda makes me wanna throw up, even though I've unhesitantly called women bitches before myself (I'm female by the way.). Ah, hypocrisy. At least I try to own it.

Churches really need to spend more time on useful things like non-judgmentally comforting people, providing shelter and food, and raising questions that actually mean something (you know stuff about life purpose, how to get along with other humans, etc.). How about meetings for women that were about "Pastries and Personal boundaries"--as in not enmeshing yourself with another person and having a life of your own (i.e. job, money, interests, friends, computer)--instead of conditioning women to live through others?

Posted by porn indifferent atheist | October 12, 2008 2:44 PM
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Hmm. I can't really understand why people are having so much trouble privately and/or secretly viewing porn. Get off for free on the trailers. No embarrassing Visa bill for the husband (er, I mean, wife) to see. Don't save your URL history. Done.

Posted by threnody | October 12, 2008 3:08 PM
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The anti-porn stance of many of these women comes from basic insecurity. A lot of women of this type that I know equate viewing porn with a commentary on the relationship-i.e. that if the husband wants or needs porn, she must not be good enough and she will probably lose him. Whereas the man is just thinking, "Hey, naked boobs! Sweet!" the woman is thinking "why does he want to look at those naked breasts? Aren't my breasts good enough? What's wrong with MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!"

Posted by ferretrick | October 12, 2008 3:44 PM
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it's not usually the monetary cost that is causing a problem -- it is looking at all. even viewing american apparel ads could be considered trouble.

as mentioned above, it is "wrong" to look at porn because lustful thoughts about anyone save your wife are wrong. these guys usually feel pretty bad about it, which is why they tell their spouse (or a friend) and have them help monitor it.

these men and women are usually well-meaning, and put themselves in a very difficult situation. the guy feels weak and guilty for looking, the woman feels unworthy or non-wanted/loved.

can you imagine trying to operate under those conditions?

Posted by infrequent | October 12, 2008 4:49 PM
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Is it considered espousing Christian values when one calls out Oh, God! or Jesus! while watching the exciting climax of a movie?

Seriously, this guy is a 32 year-old former Youth Pastor who speaks to gatherings of 20 and 30 year-old women who are having sex-related marital difficulties. They pay him $10 to attend, and he moved to Las Vegas so he could have proximity to the sinners. His xxxchurch website is a bunch of blogs about attending porn conventions, with great reader comments.

So, when you do a MSNYahooLive search for Craig Gross next year, you'll have something new but not surprising for the Youth Pastor Watch.

Posted by Bible Humper | October 12, 2008 5:04 PM
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I thought this post was titled "Porn and Pasties," which go together a lot better than porn and pastries.

Posted by Ariel | October 12, 2008 5:50 PM
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It's really kind of sad that there are churches out there with nothing better to do than police the fantasy lives of their congregations.

Posted by Greg | October 12, 2008 6:38 PM
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Soooooooooo...what you're saying is this was an event that WASN'T catered by The Erotic Bakery?

/blink

No penis-shaped cakes? No chocolate tits? No - gasp! - penis lollipops?

Honestly! What passes for entertainment these days. *tsk tsk*

Posted by TVDinner | October 12, 2008 8:03 PM
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so, uh, this whole thread has been really theraputic for me...

I'm just sayin...

Posted by Mike in MO | October 12, 2008 8:17 PM
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Remember there were three events this weekend!! They were:



Porn and Parents

Porn and Pastries

Porn and Pancakes



The flyer was scanned and discussed on a silly podcast here:



https://mollyrocket.com/7494

Click on the pics to enlarge them.

Posted by The Giant | October 13, 2008 3:25 AM

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