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Friday, September 12, 2008

She Must Have Provoked That Dog Somehow

posted by on September 12 at 15:29 PM

This just in:

A 4-month-old girl was fatally mauled today by her family’s two pit bulls, according to the North Las Vegas Fire Department. The grandmother who was babysitting the child was also bitten when she tried to save her, Capt. Cedric Williams said.

“Somehow the dogs got inside the house,” Williams said. “They were the family pets.”.

The police had to shoot and kill the dogs to get ‘em off the kid and her grandmother. Nice pets.

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Kill. Them. All.


Posted by Mr. Poe | September 12, 2008 3:42 PM

Note to breed-ban opponents: Stories like this aren't stopping. Before you go off again on Dan for posting this ( probably it will have already happened before I finish typing this --it's called "shooting the messenger" and it's a nasty habit) consider the fact that doing nothing to address the problem is an almost certain way to get a breed ban passed. If you don't want that, then get busy proposing alternative means of reducing the number of severe and fatal dog attacks. Trying to pretend that this isn't a real problem makes you look like assholes.

And a personal note: I'm not heartless. The first time I ended up in the emergency room because a friend's pit bull bit me, I lived in an area with a breed ban. When they asked me to report the location of the dog (as they were required to do by law) I didn't have the heart to have my friend's family dog euthenized, in spite of the fact that it had just bitten me. So I gave them a fake address.

When, years later, I found out the dog had bitten other people, in one case leaping its fence and biting a neighborhood kid, I decided that I was done protecting dogs, even beloved family dogs, at the expense of people. I have no great desire to see dogs put to sleep, but I also think people have the right to walk down the street without being attacked by a vicious animal.

The only way for you to protect these dogs you care so much about from being regulated as dangerous animals is for you to proactively address the issue of dog bites. Propose solutions, advocate for changes and show results. Otherwise breed bans are coming, just like they have to other places where people finally read one too many story about a toddler getting fatally mauled and heard one too many pit-bull advocate explain it away like it didn't matter.

Posted by flamingbanjo | September 12, 2008 4:27 PM

Dan, I generally think it's good to keep tabs on this breed. However, it might be illuminating to post whenever you find out a bout a poodle-mauling, or terrier-mauling, and the results thereof. Just to keep things in perspective. My assumption (based in part on the P-Is report of the percentage of pit-bull bites of all bites in Seattle this year) is that pits will far outnumber other breeds. But lets hear about all those dachsund killings, please.

Posted by STJA | September 12, 2008 4:33 PM

north las vegas is the wasilla of nevada.

Posted by max solomon | September 12, 2008 4:35 PM

Having previously advocated a total breed ban for ALL dogs in the city, I'm willing to bend a little: a total ban on all dogs weighing more than five pounds, UNLESS the owner can present proof of a minimum of 1,000 hours of dog and owner obedience training. Failure to provide such proof should result in being tasered twenty times in a row while hanging from the Aurora Bridge by your hands.

I'm sick of ALL your fucking dogs. Had a big motherfucker of a beast (not a pit, I don't know or care what it was) snarl at me on the end of a homeless guy's string just an hour ago.

Posted by Fnarf | September 12, 2008 4:35 PM

Fnarf, you should meet my dog. She's the cutest (and smartest) dog that you ever did see. She has won over souls more jaded than yours.

Posted by Sean | September 12, 2008 4:42 PM

I have to ask the obvious...were either pit bulls wearing lipstick?

Posted by Leslie N. | September 12, 2008 4:43 PM

@2: So you're saying breed bans work? Since when?

Dan, did you know that hundreds of kids are abused by bad parents? When are we going to ban parents? And why don't we hear about it in the news? Because it's not SENSATIONALISTIC. Dan, I love your writing, but the dog thing is making you look like a SFCH.

Posted by Lavode | September 12, 2008 4:57 PM

@8: Where in that post did I say "breed bans work?"

Read more carefully next time.

Posted by flamingbanjo | September 12, 2008 5:04 PM

I don't see how breed bans solve the problems we're having. I'd rather see more animal control officers getting hired, mandatory licensing and leashing (get caught even once without a license or leash, and you lose your dog, period), etc. In almost every case like the one that just happened last week, neighbors report they had called animal control numerous times to report problems with the dogs -- animal control never did anything because they are understaffed and ONLY respond when someone has already been attacked. If they'd taken an interest in that guy and his four pit bulls, they might've convinced him to A) neuter his male dogs (unneutered males are much more likely to have behavioral issues) and B) cut down on the number of dogs he had to begin with. A little education and attention could've spared that old lady her horror. And doesn't punish GOOD people with GOOD dogs, the way a breed ban does.

Posted by Jane | September 12, 2008 5:13 PM

Savage, you've demonstrated again by the way you have presented this article that you are an IGNORANT, INFLAMMATORY SLUT!

What a f*&king idiot you are.

Posted by Enough | September 12, 2008 5:24 PM

I am a bad, bad man. Please don't read my blog.

Posted by Dan Savage | September 12, 2008 5:38 PM

On this one - Dan, you are 100 per cent right on.

Oh, my dog doesn't bite is soooo common.

The votes in the populace are on the side of a ban, the City Council needs a backbone to take the issue and are deathly afraid of the shrill pit owners.

We need to push their council buttons and help them get a spine.

This breed kills. ban them, and shoot them.

Posted by John | September 12, 2008 6:08 PM

Jane, are you advocating mandatory neutering? Or are you saying two dogs is too many? Either way I don't think animal control officers, leashing, or licensing would have brought that 4-month old back to life.

Posted by jrrrl | September 12, 2008 6:14 PM

There are no good pit bulls. They are all time bombs. And if I had a dollar for every time some asshole let his disgusting slobbery beast jump up on me or snap and snarl at me, and said "it's ok, he doesn't bite", I'd have a lot of dollars.

Posted by Fnarf | September 12, 2008 6:23 PM

@13 because that's how YOU feel..The votes are in the populus?
That is the FUNNIEST thing (and most absurd)I've heard all day.
No...wait...It was funnier when my attorney told me that posting stolen images from other websites and posting false info= huge lawsuit against the Stranger..

Both are funny, but you might just have it.

Posted by Julie Russell | September 12, 2008 6:28 PM

@ No. 1: Infanticide is generally frowned upon.

At least locally.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | September 12, 2008 7:17 PM

i'm just speaking from my own experience of the many rescued pits whom i've met. they were rescued because the scumbags who originally bred and owned them couldn't turn them into vicious killers, despite every effort on their part, so the dogs were used as "bait" and/or discarded. then rescued. and they really were so sweet and submissive. honestly--i'm not exaggerating here, they were some of the gentlest dogs i've ever met. i can't get them out of my mind when i read "kill them all" and "they're all time-bombs." call me a bleeding heart. go ahead.

Posted by ellarosa | September 12, 2008 7:18 PM

Dannie, what's your point?

Husky kills infant - New Jersey ( NJ )

Labrador puppy kills infant - Tulsa (OK)

Dannie, do you want me to continue?

I think that you are a hypocrite. You are doing the exact same thing that your kind complain that other people do to you (discrimination and biased)

St Francis

Lover of all animals

Posted by St Francis | September 12, 2008 7:45 PM


Old English sheepdog kills Toddler - PA (Pennsylvania)

woman fatally mauled by Labrador and Australian Shepherd - Florida

Do you want me to continue?

So far this year there have been 3 human fatalities by Labs (such good family dogs)

St Francis

Posted by St Francis | September 12, 2008 7:48 PM

Jack Russell Terrier kills infant - Kentucky (KY)

Dog's attack on baby called
By Valarie Honeycutt Spears

Jeff Mozer said the Jack Russell terrier that attacked and killed his sleeping 6-week-old nephew Friday was a longtime family pet he trusted around his own baby and other babies in the family.

And Justin Mozer and Layne Crim were doting parents, he said, who took safety precautions and "tried to do everything just right," Jeff Mozer said.

"This is the most freakish accident. It was a dog you would never think would harm anyone at all. And my brother was just really proud of the baby, it was his first," Jeff Mozer said.

According to Jeff Mozer, the baby Justin Mozer, named after his father, was sleeping in the middle of a king-size bed about 3:15 p.m. Friday when, without warning, the Jack Russell terrier attacked and killed him.

The Fayette County Coroner's office said Saturday that the cause of the accidental death was "traumatic asphyxia and blood loss due to dog attack."

Lexington police Lt. John Gensheimer said Saturday that at this point there was no reason to file charges. Though police were continuing to conduct interviews, Gensheimer said, there was no evidence to suggest that the death was anything but an accident. The baby was alone in the room, and there were no witnesses to the attack.

The baby's mother, whom Mozer identified as Layne Crim, was in another room when the attack occurred.

Layne Crim's husband died in January 2007, leaving her with two sons, about 1 and 3.

Jeff Mozer said his brother had stepped in to become a loving father to those boys, too.

"I'm very proud of him," Jeff Mozer said.

Mozer said he spent time with his nephew last week. "I held him and kissed him. He was beautiful."

Justin Mozer, 28, was at work at a pool company when the attack occurred, Jeff Mozer said.

The baby had a crib, Jeff Mozer said, but on Friday afternoon he was napping on the bed.

Jeff Mozer said Justin Mozer had owned the Jack Russell for six or seven years. "The dog has been around my baby and other babies in the family. There has never been any reason for alarm."

Jeff Mozer said his brother bought the family home at Seven Pines Drive, near Versailles Road and Alexandria Drive, about a year ago and was remodeling it.

The former president of The Lane neighborhood association, Pete Hagan, said that in September 2007, the association sent Justin Mozer a letter complaining about the behavior of pit bulls kept in the back yard. The letter, which Hagan e-mailed to the Herald-Leader on Saturday, said pit bulls routinely got out of the yard and frightened neighbors. But Hagan said he had no problems with the Jack Russell terrier, and he had noticed no problems with the pit bulls since November.

"We extend our condolences to the Mozers," Hagan said.

Justin Mozer kept a pit bull in the back yard for protection, Jeff Mozer said, but that had nothing to do with the attack on the baby.

The two dogs were taken by Fayette County Animal Control at the owner's request. The dogs' fate was not known last night. Officials did not return telephone calls.

Jeff Mozer said his brother and the baby's mother are inconsolable, as is the rest of the family.

"We will never be the same because of it."

Posted by St Francis | September 12, 2008 7:50 PM

I see the stupid NIMBY crusade continues on the Slog.

Posted by Jay | September 12, 2008 8:34 PM

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and a Pit Bull?

One is a semi-intelligent mean spirited animal prone to violent attacks, the other is a dog.

Posted by Sargon Bighorn | September 12, 2008 8:54 PM

What would we have to do to declare you The Winner and get you to shut up about it?

Posted by violet_dagrinder | September 12, 2008 9:01 PM

Pit Bull Saves Six Abandoned Kittens

Awwww--who doesn't love fluffy kittens?

Posted by NapoleonXIV | September 12, 2008 9:53 PM

Pit Bulls are not domesticated animals and should not be kept as pets.

Posted by me | September 12, 2008 10:08 PM

Can we ban gays? I mean everytime I go on capitol hill I get attacked by their gayness. Sure I have heard there are good gays out there but they were bred to breed and they just aren't doing it. Boy Dan I love how much I dislike you now by your stupid racist bullshit...look in the mirror chief. Because you calling for gay rights and yet blatantly starting a witch hunt on a breed that has been singled out by the, suprise, media is about as hypocritical as it gets.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:59 PM

Pitbull: Just another way of stating "Hey look at me, I have a little dick!"

Posted by Sad Comment | September 13, 2008 12:24 AM

Ok, I skipped over most of the comments but did anyone notice the fucked up headline in the times? ...

Pit bulls "tag-teamed" victim, 71

Somehow the Times turned a tragic attack into a porn I NEVER EVER EVER want to see.

Posted by EWWW! | September 13, 2008 12:34 AM

@9: Nice of you to hide behind your exact words. No, you didn't SAY breed bans work, you only chastise those who OPPOSE bans for not coming up with a solution. No solution? Well, under your scenario of breed ban opponents not being able to come up with a solution to the entire problem, the end result will be breed bans. Now, that's not an exact quote, so you can still hide behind your words, but that's an accurate synopsis of what you said.

Sure sounds like you don't oppose breed bans. And it's always nice that you demand solutions from your opponents without providing any solutions yourself. Lets you wash your hands of all responsibility by saying, "well, no one is coming up with any solutions, so I guess breed bans are inevitable."

Stop being such a coward.

My solution: Raise awareness of the fact that dogs of any and all breed are dangerous animals. Breeders and dog sellers are the place to start with this. Educate them and get them to see that passing on this knowledge is crucial. Owners are the next step. Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of legislation is necessary here, and proper policing to make sure laws regarding ownership of animals are followed. But with raised awareness and demand, the legislature should be willing to put extra money into the Animal Control budget. Also, raising awareness and education among the public that it is everyone's responsibility to make sure that animals are kept appropriately will make Animal Control's job a lot easier. I realize this isn't a perfect solution, but it's better than hastily passing laws that don't accomplish anything.

Posted by Lavode | September 13, 2008 8:32 AM

@27: Great points. Dan is a hypocrite. I used to support the gay community because I thought they got unfairly target by normal people. No more support for your kind. Oh and btw please don't bring up the subject of pitbulls being a danger to society. Follow the link to homosexual serial killers. There have been 100 hundreds of gay serial killers that have killed 1000's of innoncent people. Now who is the reall danger to society?

How do you like them apples, Dannie boy?

Posted by St Francis | September 13, 2008 10:22 AM

What Dannie Boy.

Cat cut your tongue?

You have finally been exposed for the fraud you are.

Posted by St Francis | September 13, 2008 10:27 AM
Stop being such a coward.

Kiss my ass, you ignorant choad. There, is that better?

A breed ban was passed in my home state when I was fourteen or so, before I could vote. Because people were upset about all the maulings. Momentum for that is building here for the same reason. The anti-breed ban people who propose doing nothing or "awareness-raising" programs like yours (i.e. feel-good bullshit with no metrics in place to establish success or failure) don't or won't understand that people get upset when kids bet mauled by dogs.

I suspect there are better solutions than breed bans. But if it comes to a public vote and no better solutions are offered, I might vote "yes." Because at least it would end the "one free bite" policy that stands now. If someone saw a pitbull that was regularly running around off leash or unattended in a yard with a low fence they could call Animal Control and have it taken away and put to sleep. It would be as simple as calling and saying "my neighbor has a pit-bull out in his yard."

I think laws like this are an unnecessarily blunt instrument but I think the current laws and enforcement regime are unsatisfactory. Obviously you think this too. My point (for the third time, just for you) is that the option of forestalling action is likely to lead to a solution that you don't like. I'm not the one who would be heartbroken if a breed ban passed, so I'm not going to make this a personal cause.

Posted by flamingbanjo | September 13, 2008 11:38 AM

Exposed! Finally! Now I can retire.

Posted by Dan Savage | September 13, 2008 12:55 PM

It will not be up for public vote. The idiot pushing for the ban missed her dealine. She was planning to appeal to the council.

Per recent e-mails from 3 Seattle City Council members THERE WILL BE NO BREED BAN in Seattle or in King County. YAY!!!!!

Yes, this means I will stop hanging those signs I know you all love so much:)

Posted by Julie Russell | September 13, 2008 1:25 PM

@35: But you'll keep pushing for effective, non-breed-ban legislation, right? Because you actually care about reducing the risk of dog bites, right?

Posted by flamingbanjo | September 13, 2008 1:50 PM

I've met some great dogs, but they're unpredictable. All dogs will bite under the right circumstances. Pit Bulls are solid, strong dogs. As numerous news reports will attest, they're capable of causing some real damage. I am a small woman. Pit Bulls recently killed a woman not much smaller than I am. I avoid them whenever I see them because I don't care to take my life into my hands. Probably most of them are fine, but I have no way of knowing for sure. I perceive them as potential weapons and I resent having to constantly deal with them--really, as an avid pedestrian and daily bus rider, I see the damn things every day. They're symbols of aggression and I'm fucking sick of having them thrown up in my face when I'm minding my own business walking home from the gym or the grocery store.

Posted by Tired and annoyed | September 13, 2008 2:07 PM

@36,,Well duh...
Believe it or not, many pro-pit activists are on a mission not ONLY to protect dogs from unfair laws, but also to promote community safety and reduce the number of overall bites in the community.

We are actively seeking breed-neutral legislation that will address the ACTUAL problems related to the issue. We are pushing for:

1)Criminalization of animal abuse and neglect
2)Additional Funding for Seattle Animal Control to enforce their existing policies
3)Laws prohibiting chaining and tethering
4)Low cost Spay and neuter clinics
5)Public workshops to address training and socializing dogs

and on and on...

But alas, no more signs:( Oh well, more $$ for any legal matters that may pop up in the future:)

Posted by Julie Russell | September 13, 2008 2:51 PM

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