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The first thing the Nazis did to start the "final solution" killing the Jews was to work into the law statutes that made them second class citizens. Republicans and fundamentalists are doing the same thing here. History DOES repeat itself.

Posted by Vince | September 26, 2008 2:20 PM

The Nazis made laws making Jews second class citizens. Then started the killing. History does repeat itself.

Posted by Vince | September 26, 2008 2:21 PM

Well, that's because not all religious people and organizations are completely batshit insane. It's true that you don't hear about the non-crazy religious folks as much, but that's mainly because they don't pull lunatic stunts like praying at gas pumps or inviting spanking fetishists to tell them how to raise their kids.

Posted by Hernandez | September 26, 2008 2:23 PM

Lots of religious groups are opposed to Prop 8 -- even if they oppose gay marriage, it's a religious freedom issue. Religions don't like when the government swoops in and telling them who are are or aren't allowed to marry.

A few months ago, a large coalition of religious groups filed a brief in support of marriage equality. You can read it here:

Posted by mattymatt | September 26, 2008 2:24 PM

Wow. Sharp headline, there, Dan. That doesn't sound like you.

An Oregonian and devout Christian who 100-percent supports gay marriage, civil or otherwise

Posted by Oregonian | September 26, 2008 2:52 PM

@1,2: Looks like history's not the only thing that repeats itself.

Posted by Greg | September 26, 2008 3:10 PM

yay jews

Posted by um | September 26, 2008 3:27 PM

I'm a proud member of the United Church of Christ, one of the organizations mentioned in the brief and the largest Christian denomination to pass a resolution supporting gay marriage.

And I'm kind of sick of people assuming that when I say I'm a Christian it means that I'm want to nuke the gay whales for Jesus.

I think Christians who aren't wack jobs need to do more to assert ourselves when people like Jerry Falwell say they speak for us. Unfortunately, when the UCC tried to air TV adds saying that we support gay couples, the big 3 networks refused to air them because they say they were too contraversal. But you can see the add on You Tube, just search "United Church of Christ Bouncer Add"

Posted by Nat | September 26, 2008 3:35 PM

After hearing about all the Mormon funding of Yes On 8, I took out a Google AdWords ad on some Mormon-marriage-related keywords. If you're in various parts of the western US, turn off adblocking and Google for "temple marriage" and you'll probably see it. I just wish had a section dedicated to explaining things from a separation-of-church-and-state perspective.

If you can't find it, it reads: "Proposition 8 / Gov't permission to get married? / Is gov't authorized religion next? /". I hoped it would strike a chord with Mormons, considering the crap that they went through 100 years ago.

Posted by Chronos | September 27, 2008 12:49 PM

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