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Wednesday, September 10, 2008

More Pig

posted by on September 10 at 19:32 PM

Even old Huck is on Obama’s side on the pig issue:

Seriously, out of all the attempts that Obama has made to expose the McCain/Palin mendacity machine, this one (the pig one) might finally succeed in reaching the understanding of mainstream America.

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Slog reminds me more and more of the Catholic church, or those really old leftists who never, ever broke with Stalin....all facts are *positive* no matter how *"negative"* they seem they're actually just more proof of what we WANT to believe.

Outside the bubble, Obama continues his not only did the gallup daily tracking poll get one point worse for Obama -- let's see that's about a 12 poitns slide in a WEEK -- for the first time in months the real clear politics Intrade Market Odds put Obama LOWER than McCAin at 49.3 to 49.4.

Recently it was like 57 or almost 60 Obama.

But really think about it....this bad news is actually good news...because you see due to the genious of we can all put money on Obama see so now we can make money cuz he's going to polls don't mean shit....except when they show he's up then Slog cites them...and intra trade does't mean shit ....except when he's up so Slog cites it....and really every "bad" sign is just a real sign of a good outcome..... [sounds of deep inhaling and bubbling water; sounds of deep exhaling] wow dude let's go get some munchies.........I'm seeing lipsticked pigs they're getting really close to teh that's cool I bet they will land on the it's actually good! BBQ pig for all you see ! Yum, yum!!

:) :) :)

Intrade Market Odds 49.3 49.4

Posted by PC | September 10, 2008 7:50 PM

what i like is that BHO's campaign did it intentionally.


it's even alliterative. the GOP is hoist by their own petard.

we've wanted a dem to take on the rove Bs straight up, and this is fair & smart. smarter than rove.

Posted by maxsolomon@home | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM

@2 yes we want someone to attack but ultra intellectualized word games do not get a message across. Are we looking for a message or tryin to give swing voters an SAT test?

Perhaps Charles will understand what I said above with this quote from USNWR -- as it compares to a phenomenom from global capitalism:

"Now Obama's Minsky Moment is morphing into the McCain Moment. The evidence? Here goes: 1) The final 10 national polls in June had Barack Obama up by an average of 7 percentage points. The past eight polls this month have John McCain up by a bit more than 2 points, according to RealClearPolitics. 2) Right around the same time that Obama's polling lead was entering landslide territory in June, his odds of victory over at the Intrade betting markets were hovering at a sky-high 70 percent. Today, Obama's chances are right around 50-50 vs. McCain. 3) And now, according to a New York Times story yesterday, the deluge of donations has started drying up: "Pushing a fundraiser later this month, a finance staff member sent a sharply worded note last week to Illinois members of its national finance committee, calling their recent efforts 'extremely anemic.'"

"Speculative bubbles have come in many different varieties: flowers, railway shares, Florida property, Beanie Babies, comic books, technology stocks, exurb McMansions. Does Candidate Obama qualify? Well, the candidate does sound a bit like a lot of the hot Internet companies back in the late 1990s. Not much of a track record. Lots of media hype. Parabolic ascent. And now a stomach-dropping decline."

You don't have to buy the writer's stance to agree with the description of the facts. And wow, I didn't realize in intratrade Obama was as high as 70 points. That makes a twenty point drop to even steven.

When do we stop pretending this drop isn't happening or that it is good news?

Posted by PC | September 10, 2008 8:00 PM

Just once, PC, I wish you'd take your own advice and come up with a witty, concise 10-word response to something.

Just once.

Also, it doesn't take grad school to understand "lipstick on a pig".

Posted by David | September 10, 2008 8:13 PM

BTW Charles, the video embed is busted.

Posted by David | September 10, 2008 8:18 PM

By the way, Charles, speaking of pigs, despite your smoking of down-scale Canadian cigarettes, you, as a fat-bottomed girl, need to "get on your bike and ride," as Freddie Mercury would say.

Posted by Danisparanoidandhysterical | September 10, 2008 8:30 PM

thank you, @4.

"lipstick on a pig" isn't even SAT.

remember who's left to convince: low-information WHITE voters. rednecks. they know their pigs & lipstick.

Posted by maxsolomon@home | September 10, 2008 9:16 PM

a half billion dollars worth of donations, and this is what it bought. pigs. lipstick. gawd.

Posted by superyeadon | September 10, 2008 9:23 PM

@8: I KNOW! it was worth it!

Posted by maxsolomon@home | September 10, 2008 9:30 PM


Yesterday: pig = McCain's policy; lipstick = Change

Today: Pig = McCain; lipstick = Palin

Tomorrow: ?

I think Obama is rattled by Palin.
It's not good sign when your Presidential Candidate is rattled by the other guys Vice Presidential Candidate.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | September 10, 2008 9:36 PM

The big O should start calling on the MSM to give Palin a shot and invite her to do the Sunday talk shows. He should challenge them to give her the same access they gave HRC. Demand that they publically invite her on all the shows.

No one cares about the bridge to nowhere or pigs on lipstick or you can't just make things up because in fact you can.

Knocking Palin is like knocking Eyman - it just makes them more popular.

Posted by McG | September 10, 2008 9:36 PM

Did anyone catch O'Reilly tonight saying that this is not an issue? Even while the ticker at the bottom of the screen continued to scroll LIPSTICK ON A PIG zomg drama????

It was terribly pathetic, I hope someone screen capped it

Posted by Non | September 10, 2008 9:36 PM

I love seeing leftists cry in their mussels and microbrews!

The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama's shallow and predictable response this morning shows how desperate he and the Democrat Party have become, and they will resort to anything to win.

Or as The Great One - Mark Levin put it last night:

"Truth is the primary obstacle to Marxists. That's why they lie."

Homosexual Marxists like Obama are even worse. I'm glad he won't win, because this would end ujp being the last free election ever held here!

I just bought a grand's worth on McCain. You shoul too!


Posted by Lord Basil | September 10, 2008 9:43 PM

Jesus, Charles, drop the "if we could only show people what cheats and hypocrites the Republicans are, then they'd have to vote Obama" bullshit. Everyone knows already and IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. Voters are hearing little reptilian voices that say "He's showing off, he thinks he's better than me" or "She's smug and fake" or "He's too old and weak" or whatever, and adding 'rational' explanations later. And no, I don't have any suggestions.

Posted by banjoboy | September 10, 2008 9:46 PM

Wait, he's gay? So I guess that "wife" and "kids" are just, like, clone built satanist robots built by the marxists to rape your children and murder god or something, right?

@13 - You know, I wanna be just like you, I figure all I need is a lobotomy, and some tights.

Posted by Super Jesse | September 10, 2008 10:01 PM

#15, he's either a moron, or a troll, and not even a particularly good one. He hot a bit too obvious with the "Homosexual" bit. Might as well have capitalized Leftists.

Posted by w7ngman | September 10, 2008 10:19 PM


Give her a shot? She doesn't want to do those shows. She's completely unprepared and unqualified. That's why Palin's handlers have effectively put her in hiding. She'll emerge in a couple of weeks once she's learned all the Republican talking points and the Republican skill of never actually answering the question they've been asked.

Posted by keshmeshi | September 10, 2008 10:31 PM

Once or twice, when I was younger -- college age or maybe even that summer between high school and college -- I wore lipstick.

It was always black lipstick. Because, in my hymnal, the only color lipstick a "real man" could wear was black. And most of the chicks I was banging were goths or goth-friendly.

So I used to get off so hard with the following: putting the lipstick on, and then smearing it off while kissing a goth chick. Putting smears of cheap black grease paint on her face (I wasn't buying Lancombe, folks), or her shirt collar. Or both. And my face was a mess, too.

And there was this one goth guy with whom I had a kind of FWB relationship. I smeared his face. too.

But anyway.

I was never a pig.

So I don't really relate to any of this latest tempest, even with the lipstick factored in.

Carry on.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | September 10, 2008 10:35 PM

Oh, PC, why do you hate America so?

I grew up on farms. I was a 4H member - while I raised sheep, other members raised pigs.

And even then we used the "lipstick on a pig" expression.

Again - why do you hate America and our core values of Truth, Justice, and the American Middle Class way of life so very very very much?

Posted by Will in Seattle | September 10, 2008 10:50 PM

I told my dad I wasn't going to vote for Palin just because she has a vagina and my dad freaked out because I said "vagina." lol Try it out on is really funny to see how they will react! :)

Posted by Kristin Bell | September 11, 2008 2:07 AM

Speaking of pigs, RawStory has an expose of sorts up on their web site of their interview of the whistleblower who exposed Cindy McCains theft of drugs from the children's chairty she was running. The guy kept a journal which he is now releasing. Likely worth a link. Here's a few snippets:
First, about the charity he worked for that Cindy was running:
"I have mixed emotions about what I believe should happen to AVMT," Gosinski wrote in one of his last journal entries in December 1992. "It does not deserve to continue to exist as it is currently being operated -- it is a very expensive toy for a very disturbed lady. Cindy has use (sic) the organization for self-promotion and as a source for the drugs to which she is addicted."
And as summer turned toward autumn, and the charity becomes an outgrowth of John McCain's senate re-election campaign, with travel and scheduling coordinated by aides on his campaign and senate staffs, Gosinski writes.
"I have never been so aware of the amount of insincerity behind a political campaign as I am now with John McCain's reelection campaign," he writes on Sept. 3, 1992. "Everything Cindy McCain does is politically motivated and driven by the almighty 'photo op.' I am convinced that Cindy McCain could give a rat's ass about the citizens of the third world countries or the victims of natural disasters."
Here's a link to the story, which deals extensively with the issue of why he is releasing his journal now. You can also link through my name.

Posted by Mike in Iowa | September 11, 2008 6:22 AM

A few days ago I said leave off Palin -- it won't work.

This is being proven correct every day so far.....with continued sliding of Obama.

Today, 9-11, the latest from real clear is this:

1. RCP National Average 45.2 47.4 McCain +2.2

Wow, that sucks. And throw in that Bradley effect Obama fans are always compalining about a/k/a racism and you would conclude Obama may be behind 5 or 6 points.

2. Favorable Ratings +18.8 +20.8 McCain +2.0

Wow, McCain now has a better favorable rating than Obama. That sucks. You think a host of liberal bloggers attacking Palin for being a mom, for being a nazi, and calling her a pig could have anything to do with this?

Like perhaps totally taking Obama off his message of change, and economic betterment, and reengagement with the world and all that likable stuff he presents that used to work so well when he wasn't and his fans weren't caught up in the old style negative politics of personal attack, and lowering his standing by having him engage with the VP candidate of the other side??

3. Intrade Market Odds 48.6 50.5

Fucking great. You know when this favored OBama it got a big old Slog post, condescending explaining this was better than a poll, because this represents smart bettors putting down real, to see McCain is not only ahead, but his lead is growing day by day andhe's now over 50 points and Obama is less just fucking sucks.

So folks, hopefully you will get a clue and realize that this whole effort of the last 8 days of attacking Palin isn't working.

We need to attack McCain; we need to hone the economic message; we need to get the attention the fuck off Palin.

There are lots and lots of gun owners and hunters and snowmachine operators in MI OH NH.....

Oh and remember how wise everyone said Biden was? What a great pick he was? Well he just said HRC would have been a better pick.

Gee. If that's his best advice, why the fuck didn't he tell that to Obama when offered VP to him? So either he's insincere in saying it now -- also totally stupid -- or he was insincere and put his own interest first back then when he didn't insist that Obama give it to HRC.

And how can we expect Obama to manage a legislative program if he can't manage his own VP candidate and he's so peevish he can't meet with Bill Clinton for 100 days?

Unity, y'all -- hopefully we'll eke it out by winning Ohio.

Posted by PC | September 11, 2008 6:58 AM

Keshmeshi -

the point of pushing the media to let palin talk is exactly that she doesn't want to go on - if O says she needs to go on that won't work but if he says the media is treating unfairly by not letting her on are the Rs going to say that's not true we don't want her on?

At this point the Ds need to stop talking about P and let/hope exposure will sink her.

Posted by McG | September 11, 2008 7:44 AM

PC, Biden's comment was in response to an audience member saying he was sure glad Obama had picked him and not Hillary. He was just being gracious and making it clear he wouldn't support any Hillary bashing.

Posted by Mike in Iowa | September 11, 2008 7:52 AM

Biden? He's just trying to lower his own expectations until he's in position to outperform and "win" the expectation game.

It's a race to the bottom, and may the lowest pig win.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | September 11, 2008 7:53 AM

You know what bothers me about this whole manufactured controversy? It's like people suddenly have mass amnesia and forget common expressions that have been around longer than Social Security.

Do you remember a few years back, during the snow job leading up to the Iraq war, when Colin Powell was supposed to have said something like, "You break it, you bought it," about Iraq? The shorthand for this (really old) expression in the media became 'the Pottery Barn rule.' Suddenly, it was like no one had ever heard that saying before. (For instance, how did it get attached to Pottery Barn, specifically?) REPORTERS ASKED POTTERY BARN FOR A STATMENT. Pottery Barn replied that they did not, in fact, have a "you break it, you bought it" policy, and sensitive people like myself screamed in agony at this display of outright idiocy in the press.

Now it's come to this: a fake uproar by Republicans over the use of the generations-old saying about lipstick on a pig, which has been applied to unpopular political issues since, like, forever. Do Republicans really believe that people will have no memory? Do morons like YGBKM really have that much trouble with basic cultural competency? Sadly, it seems like the answer to both questions is yes.

Posted by Greg | September 11, 2008 8:36 AM

What's the difference between George W. Bush and Sarah Palin?

One wears lipstick.

Posted by cressona | September 11, 2008 8:50 AM


Have you forgotten the opening sequence from Fahrenheit 9/11?

Friendly correction: Both wear makeup. Both are stage-managed. Both are laughable death-throes of the Reagan Revolution.

The difference? One clears brush with a chainsaw, the other guts mooses.

For the cameras, of course.

Posted by Jeff Stevens | September 11, 2008 9:07 AM


I don't believe I ever stated that I believed Obama intended for his statement to be interpreted that way. If I did, I retract that statement.

I only drew attention to what I thought would (rightly or wrongly) become an important (if not substantive) story. And it has. (Much more so than the "Sambo" story that Slog tried to push forward.) If it were not an important story Obama would not have addressed it twice directly.

But here's the deal. In politics perception is reality. And allot of people (perhaps incorrectly) perceived Obama to be talking about Palin. As soon as I read the statement I assumed they (perhaps wrongly) would (because so many Slog posters are so incredulous about this, I have repeatedly tried to explain how an average person might (rightly or wrongly) reach that perception). And that (fairly or unfairly) has damaged Obama. Probably not permanently, but temporarily, none the less.

It's similar to the principle that allowed the left to damage McCain with the "100 years of war" meme. Which arguably, was not his intended actual and literal message.

In politics perception is reality. Especially with the "simple folk" in in flyover country (Who own guns and hunt, have families (sometimes unexpectedly) and perceive abortion and gay marriage to be "big city" problems and vote.) Understanding that reality is an important part of cultural competency.

The broader story, in my opinion, is that we are even talking about lipstick on pigs instead of how Obama intends to reduce the federal income taxes of 95% of Americans when 40% of Americans don't pay federal income tax.

Frankly, the lefts reaction to Palin is starting to remind me of Sam Kinison screaming into a microphone: "Aahhhh! Aahhhh! WHORE!!!!, Aaarghhh!!"

Lots of noise and not allot of content. Entertaining in its way but not informative. This mystifies me.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | September 11, 2008 9:52 AM

Nice Sam Kinison plug. How fucking old are you?????????

Posted by Fillip | September 11, 2008 10:08 AM


Old enough to know better and too old to care.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | September 11, 2008 10:24 AM

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