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Sunday, September 14, 2008

Even Rove

posted by on September 14 at 16:18 PM


Rove stabs McCain in the back:

Former Bush adviser Karl Rove said Sunday that Sen. John McCain had gone “one step too far” in some of his recent ads attacking Sen. Barack Obama.

Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.

“McCain has gone in some of his ads — similarly gone one step too far,” he told Fox News, “and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the ‘100 percent truth’ test.”

The Obama campaign immediately leaped on the quote.

“In case anyone was still wondering whether John McCain is running the sleaziest, most dishonest campaign in history, today Karl Rove — the man who held the previous record — said McCain’s ads have gone too far,” said campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor, in a statement sent to reporters minutes after Rove’s on-air comments. Rove masterminded both of President Bush’s successful White House bids.

Rove has no respect for McCain.

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Unfortunately, Obama needs to grow a pair and hit back hard. For a lot of people, being milquetoast about these kinds of things is not respectable.

Of course, I'm holding onto hope that this is part of a strategy... let the polls drop a bit, allow the Palin thing play out, save campaign money, get supporters nervous enough to donate more money, and then pound McCain relentlessly right before the debates and regain the momentum.

I hope.

Posted by demo kid | September 14, 2008 4:33 PM

I don't think Karl Rove ever does or says anything in front of a camera that isn't calculated. He may be himself creating distance from McCain, joining an already very loud chorus of media types calling McCain out on his lies, but Rove is so clearly associated with Bush in the minds of the public, couldn't this just be an attempt to create the perception that Bush and McCain differ on something? That McCain is such a "maverick" he goes against the mighty Rove's opinions? That's how it's supposed to look. Behind closed doors, Rove approves of all this and more. His acolyte Steve Schmidt is the one responsible for McCain's choices.

Posted by matt | September 14, 2008 4:45 PM

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Posted by Pee Chee | September 14, 2008 4:49 PM

Karl Rove is Old Technology.

McCain is vanguard.

Obama is still trying to RTFM.

Posted by John Bailo | September 14, 2008 4:57 PM

@1: Obama may be trying to let Palin-Mania run its course but he really needs to fight back and hard. Taking the high road didn't work for Kerry and focusing on the issues didn't work for Gore. Fortunately Obama has a good team who (I hope) know what they're doing.

@3: Didn't bother. Too long.

Posted by RainMan | September 14, 2008 5:26 PM

Won't someone please touch me? It's been years...

Posted by John Bailo's Penis | September 14, 2008 5:41 PM

"Rove has no respect for McCain". I can't help but think that is a compliment to McCain.

Posted by Carol | September 14, 2008 5:44 PM

I agree with @2. Rove is likely saying these things so that McCain can claim that he (McCain) is in a different camp than Rove/Bush.

Posted by stinkbug | September 14, 2008 5:46 PM

@2 & 8

I don't think being such a "maverick" that he's more lying, deceitful, and sleazy than Rove/Bush is quite the right direction to be distancing himself.

Posted by N | September 14, 2008 6:11 PM

@4: Again, proof that you're fucking deluded. A septuagenarian as "vanguard"? I'm having a hard time believing that even Republicans believe that bullshit.

Posted by demo kid | September 14, 2008 6:56 PM

Has anyone ever seen Barbara Bush and Karl Rove in the same room? They look an awful lot alike, except Karl has less wrinkles and smaller balls.

Sorry, I don't normally do testicular - except when it involves Barbara Bush. She's a horrible woman.

Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay | September 14, 2008 6:59 PM

@1 et al: Everytime I hear the words "grow a pair" and/or "hit back hard" I always wait for specific suggestions. Exactly how is Obama not hitting back? Have you heard a FULL stump speech from the man lately--or just the McNuggets from the MSM?

Posted by Andy Niable | September 14, 2008 7:17 PM


John Bailo, Ventriloquist: Thank you and good night.

Posted by John Bailo | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM

@3: Dude, your copy-pasta is no longer fresh, and was never delicious. Give it up.

@12: Agreed, I think. Positive suggestions are always a good idea. I've not seen any recent stump speeches, but the last two ads I've seen on youtube are pretty hard hitting.

Posted by Rl | September 14, 2008 8:52 PM

I'm thinking that Rove is angry at his pupil Steve Schmidt for defying orders and going with Palin (yeah, the decision was made FOR McCain). Rove is smart enough to get off of the Titanic, then piss on the survivors from his MSM lifeboat.

Posted by Demolator | September 14, 2008 9:46 PM

What I can't figure out is why anyone has *any* faith in the American people after the last eight years. Face it, McCain is lying his ass off and he's going to win.

Personally, I hope McCain/Palin get elected and appoint SC Justices that toss out Roe. Abortion will then get thrown to the states and people in WA won't be impacted. Instead it will cause great misery for all the idiots in the red states including the Hillary PUMA crowd. And I'll laugh my ass off.

Posted by soshallyoureap | September 14, 2008 10:14 PM

John McCain is a dirty piece of shit scumbag. I've known some pieces of shit, too, I've

Even the repubs don't know what they are getting into:

It's a disaster. We better hope we aren't as dumb as them

Posted by Andrew | September 15, 2008 2:19 AM

Obama has a pair.

Remember before the DNC everyone was saying Obama needed to fight back but he stayed relatively quiet, that is until he got up on stage.

Well folks, the debates are coming. Obama doesn't have to fight back against the ads. He can just stand on the stage next to McCain and make him look silly.

Posted by monkey | September 15, 2008 9:00 AM

It's interesting how the dems continually slam Carl Rove, until his statements reinforce their vitriol for the republicans. Actually, Rove said that BOTH dems and republicans ads went too far, but the dems just want to make it look like Rove said the Republicans went too far. I don't care what the media says, if you connect the dots, it's obvious that Obama's lipstick/pig comment, which came just days after Palin scored points with her pitbulll/lipstick statement, was an ugly sexist response from Obama. Now, Obama is crying that he was misinterpreted, while the media, once again assists him in playing the victim. The deck has been so stacked in favor of Obama, whether it's the media's refusal to vet Obama in the first place, to giving Obama free rides with Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers, etc.. The media, as well as shows like The View, are continuing to show extreme bias against Senator John McCain, while kissing Obama's ass.

Posted by Howard | September 15, 2008 10:03 AM

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