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Couldn't they clone something healthier than potatoes and ground beef?

Posted by Ziggity | September 2, 2008 2:09 PM

no difference = psychological breakdown from the weak minded

Posted by Bellevue Ave | September 2, 2008 2:11 PM

If there's no difference between the products why is this even an issue?

Posted by levide | September 2, 2008 2:16 PM

Fuck yes!

Posted by Mr. Poe | September 2, 2008 2:23 PM

I'm with @3. I never saw the big deal about cloned products or genetically modified food.

Posted by Julie | September 2, 2008 2:26 PM

@5, The genetically modified food bothers me but not the cloned foods. So I am with you half way.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | September 2, 2008 2:32 PM

I fully enjoyed being lectured on the dangers of eating cloned products by a sidewalk activist, some years ago, in between bites of her Cavendish banana.

Posted by DB | September 2, 2008 2:33 PM

This is exactly the way you should post, Ryan(?)

No manic commentary, no tragic take, no projected desperately executed superiority complex.

Posted by Non | September 2, 2008 2:38 PM

@7: Wins this comment lightning round!

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | September 2, 2008 2:38 PM

I love how people get all freaked out about cloned animals (ie. essentially transgenerational identical twins), but don't seem overly concerned about the fact that their "conventional" animals are pumped with hormones and antibiotics, and raised in a way that is inhumane and an environmental disaster. . . and, oh yeah, is full of saturated fat that leads to cardiovascular disease and cancer.

Cloning is only bad in that it exacerbates the lack of genetic diversity that is much of what makes the vast quantities of antibiotics necessary.

Posted by violet_dagrinder | September 2, 2008 2:43 PM

you just don't give the fuck up, do you non? and i love the little Ryan(?) slam. so clever. as if you didn't know damn good and well what my name is--as if you weren't a freak show stalker--by your own admission "standing behind" and "next to" me in public places, observing me, stalking me here, on an admitted campaign to, um "get me gone from the stranger" (best of luck, there), obsessing over every little word i've written for the last twelve years, you sad, sorry shit. if i knew your name, i'd get a restraining order, and be done with you. but like most stalkers and all blog trolls, you are a lippy, limp-cocked coward. go choke on something. something bing and sharp.

Posted by adrian | September 2, 2008 2:48 PM

Again, you are taking it way too far. I was at a party that you were at once and saw you and your red hair.

Stalking indicates interest. Sorry, I bet your ego liked that.

Posted by Non | September 2, 2008 2:58 PM

oh, it was at a party now? well, that is the third story from you. was it also in outter space? or in a magic teacup? how many times HAVe you, precisely, "stood next to" and "observed" me? i stand by my word. psycho. stalker. the only person's ego getting stroked here is yours. and this is at least the sixth time you've had to declaim "Stalking indicates interest" in one of my posts. yes, yes it does. your right. and you are a stalker.

Posted by adrian | September 2, 2008 3:03 PM

I won't eat cloned beef until it's been properly irradiated.

Oh, hell. Yes I will.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | September 2, 2008 3:08 PM

wow, how'd you get a picture of me after that last binge? I think I saw the same thing when I was looking bleary eyed into the toilet and giving it my offering! (lack of food never wins over alcohol poisoning)

Posted by brandon | September 2, 2008 3:08 PM

Adrian, I think you are a hack who beats up on others without any credibility yourself. Once, at a party in Christopher Frizzelle's apartment, I stood near you and confirmed that you are as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside.

I reply to your terrible posts. This does not make me a stalker. But if you get off on thinking that, who am I to stop you. You're a sad, single, red-haired bully who can't drive.

See you next time,

Posted by Non | September 2, 2008 3:09 PM

It wasn't the ho-down in space. I was at that one.

Posted by Mr. Poe | September 2, 2008 3:10 PM

I have only spoken to you a single handed amount of times, but it is now time for me to step it up. When you write to Adrian it exacerbates the issue, it's considered harassment.
I know Adrian, I've known him a long time, he knows how to drive, he most certainly isn't a hack; AND, he only responds to people in a like manner.
If you cannot avoid irritating people then it may be time for you to exercise your own caution and shut the hell up!
Stop writing to him.

Posted by brandon | September 2, 2008 3:14 PM

for someone with no interest, you sure think you know a lot about me. single? can't drive? um? so you found all that out by lingering near me at a party. fascinating. keep talking, you jealous, obsessive little turd. as soon as i figure out your name, i'll file the paperwork. freak.

Posted by adrian | September 2, 2008 3:15 PM

For a pop culture critic, you sure didn't get that last quote from Clueless:


Posted by Non | September 2, 2008 3:20 PM
Once, at a party in Christopher Frizzelle's apartment, I stood near you and confirmed that you are as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside., you're somebody here. Somebody who isn't a Stranger staffer.

Get to work, Adrian.

Posted by Mr. Poe | September 2, 2008 3:22 PM

i rest my case.

Posted by adrian | September 2, 2008 3:23 PM

clueless was like, um, so thirteen years ago?!

Posted by Brandon | September 2, 2008 3:24 PM
Posted by Non | September 2, 2008 3:29 PM

no way, bitch. i love dogs. and i love THAT dog in particular.

Posted by adrian | September 2, 2008 3:32 PM

people that would freak out about eating meat from a cow that is the result of cloning...obviously don't know much about the cloning process. The clone is freakin IDENTICAL to the cow it was cloned from. So if you would eat the original why wouldn't you eat the IDENTICAL clone? There is no difference in the all, you can't tell the difference...thats why...ITS A CLONE.

We are living in an overpopulated world where very soon we are going to have to consider how to feed everyone, and knowing how to clone a pretty damn abundant source of protein is the kind of science that could save us in the future.

Posted by Hunter | September 2, 2008 3:40 PM

@#26, yes and no.
cloning is still very new; protein breaks down faster than original meat- this has been shown in dolly. I could understand the use of cloning if safeguards are in place to help keep new diseases from entering the food source, but how can we as a general population make sure that we've not become the guinea pigs in the clone food process? if it's true that cloned food is now part of our food chain how many possible issues have been created in us that now aren't fixable?

Posted by brandon | September 2, 2008 3:48 PM

Adrian, do you need me to kick non's ass? Cause I will.

Non: STFU. There are 2 rules on slog:

1) If you even *think* mean things about Adrian! we will release the hounds
2) Please refer to rule #1

Posted by Original Monique | September 2, 2008 3:52 PM

Another reason for disabling Slog comments

Posted by Just Sayin' | September 2, 2008 3:58 PM

I'm far more worried about genetic engineering, steroids, and massive antibiotic doping than I am a bout cloning. Cloning is a low grade worry. It also seems kinda pointless. A scientific curiosity, sure, but does it actually save any money or provide any benefit to beef production?

Posted by Reverse Polarity | September 2, 2008 4:14 PM

This thread is a heap o' weird.

But I want to be on the list for the next party that never happened. I promise not to stalk anybody after...

Posted by PopTart | September 2, 2008 4:28 PM

Thank God Europe and Japan ban them.

Posted by Will in Seattle | September 2, 2008 4:40 PM

someone who criticizes Adrian = ZOMG Stalker!!

Get a thicker skin, fool.

Posted by Janet Dalgas | September 2, 2008 4:42 PM

@27: Um... not quite. Dolly the sheep's *protein* was fine. It was her DNA that was damaged.

Dolly had abnormally short telomeres (the protective caps at the ends of each chromosome). Shorter telomeres means the cells can't divide as many times before they die, which meant that Dolly aged prematurely, starting with very early arthritis.

(Some other cloned animals... cows, I think... have ended up with abnormally *long* telomeres instead. For the time being, every time scientists clone a new mammal, it's a coin flip how things turn out. Some animals are easier than others to get right, and we haven't yet seen any rhyme or reason for it.)

However, when it comes to eating cloned animals, the cloned animal's DNA is moot: stomach acid utterly destroys the DNA anyway, so it makes no difference from a food safety standpoint.

Posted by Chronos | September 3, 2008 12:20 AM

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