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Thursday, August 28, 2008

Denver Done

posted by on August 28 at 14:57 PM

Obama? In the way Bill Clinton effectively shutdown the welfare system, he has effectively shutdown the radical left. The march by the Iraq War veterans ended peacefully (members of Obama’s team came out of the Pepsi Center and registered the vet’s petition—end the war now, benefits for all war vets, pay the Iraq people for the damage done to their country). Not one of the other protests ended as not a complete flop. Recreate 68 was a total joke—none of the leftist organizations cared for it and its name—“Who wants to recreate 68? That makes no sense; we live in today,” said a local leader of Greenpeace. (Even Chuck D, the father of radical rap, wanted nothing to do with this Recreate 68 business.)

The small and large events for the DNC were always crowded and joyful. Their party is united by the black face on the cover of Time Magazine. The new reality for all on the left: If your agenda can’t find away into the party’s logic, you are not only outside of the political system, you just don’t exist. No one knows this (no one bothered to report it), but last night Ralph Nader had a “Super Rally” at the University of Denver. I, like everyone else in this town, missed it and the opportunity of seeing Sean Penn and Val Kilmer. If the first Iraq War was supposed to cure America of the Vietnam Syndrome, Obama has certainly cured the Democrats of the Nader Syndrome.

What’s left? Joining the party, supporting the new man, and hoping for the best.

Denver Notes:
As for RZA, it was wonderful staring at you the other night. As for Susan Sarandon, sorry about my shoulder bumping into yours the other night. As for Paul Miller, sorry I missed your book signing at Tattered Cover Book Store (I wanted to thank you for always letting me crash at your frequently empty Tribeca pad). As for Boots Riley of the Coup, let’s meet again and have a real conversation.

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I am thrilled that Corporate America is fully in charge of the Democratic Party. And I for one praise the continuation of corporate interests writing our laws and controlling our elected officials.

HAIL CORPORATE AMERICA!! You've never let us down!!!

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | August 28, 2008 3:04 PM

@1: Remember when you used to be cool?

Posted by Ziggity | August 28, 2008 3:05 PM

But members of Obama’s team came out of the Pepsi Center and recognized their demands. In other words, members of Obama’s team came out of the Pepsi Center and recognized their demands.

What I'm trying to say is, MEMBERS of OBAMA’s team came out of the Pepsi Center and RECOGNIZED their DEMANDS.

Maybe I don't understand any of this stuff. Is it that I don't define "recognize" and "demands" and "their" in the same way?

Posted by elenchos | August 28, 2008 3:06 PM

All I know is if there's a third term for Bush/McCain, there are likely to not only be riots but the end of our predominant position among nations.

Revolutions come through either peaceful - or violent - means.

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 28, 2008 3:10 PM

3% + GDP Growth = Nobama.

Posted by John Bailo | August 28, 2008 3:12 PM

everytime someone uses the phrase "corporate america", a southeast asian child loses a finger in an industrial sewing machine.

Posted by brandon | August 28, 2008 3:15 PM

@5: Are you high? Read a fucking book.

Posted by Ziggity | August 28, 2008 3:16 PM

wow, it's so cool you were rubbing shoulders with "celebrities"!

Posted by really? | August 28, 2008 3:25 PM

@5 - If you're recognizing that real interest rates are negative, you have your beloved GOP to blame for that.

Posted by GK | August 28, 2008 3:26 PM

Their party is united by the black face on the cover of Time Magazine.

That's when I realized it was a Mudede post. You could have just said "the face on the cover..." and I would have gotten it.

Posted by Emily | August 28, 2008 3:27 PM

@2, Truth hurts, don't it?

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | August 28, 2008 3:34 PM

@5 - when the GDP is going mostly to the ultra-rich, the end result is usually a violent revolution.

As I said, we either change.

Or stuff happens.

Now if you're one of the top 0.1 percent - great. But if you're not, you're being screwed, blued, and tattooed.

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 28, 2008 3:34 PM

Tim Robbins has killed men for less than that...

Posted by michael strangeways | August 28, 2008 3:35 PM

THANK GOD people are finally ignoring Ralph Nader.

Posted by Westside forever | August 28, 2008 3:37 PM

Charles, are you saying the Clinton shutdown the welfare system by listening to welfare recipients' demands?

Posted by Mahtli69 | August 28, 2008 3:37 PM

The sad irony is that the radical left must not, cannot die, must constantly be revived by the right for them to rationalize their own existence. If the left ceases to be, the right must invent it. In fact, most of what people think of as "the left" is just a gross popularization of right wing culture wars from the 1960s. Those people don't exist now, if they ever did. Yet they must exist, the stereotype must be believed or else we wouldn't have a reason to fear "socialized medicine." The language of credibility for Democrats and Republicans alike is little more than a disavowal of being a leftist. If you can't do that, or lecture people about the need for compromise and the need to put stakeholders (ie corporations) in charge of the government agencies that regulate them, you can't get elected.

Ergo: if Obama loses, the left, whoever that is, will be blamed, so that the Democratic party, led by Senator Clinton, can drift even further to the right.

Posted by Trevor | August 28, 2008 3:40 PM

Meet the Real Social Justice Candidates: A Chat with the Green Party Ticket

McKinney captured the Green Party presidential nomination in July at their convention in Chicago, by securing 313 delegate votes out of a total 541. McKinney and Clemente are making history as the first all women-of-color presidential ticket

“I endorse Cynthia and I will vote for Cynthia because she is into party building,” says Sheehan, who is currently running against Speaker of the U.S. House Nancy Pelosi in California. “She is into making this party a party that looks like America, and talks like America, and represents America,”

Sheehan, who became a symbol of the antiwar movement in 2005 when she camped outside of President Bush’s Crawford, Tex., ranch, is running against a candidate who has taken the impeachment of the president “off the table.”

Posted by Rosa Clemente | August 28, 2008 3:43 PM


So tell me SLOG editors...

Why has this story not been discussed here today:

Curious why you are not fair and balanced to get to the bottom of this story?


Posted by Reality Check | August 28, 2008 3:45 PM

My initial response was "the radical left has died, long live the radical left." It seems to me, as you yourself acknowledge, that the current protests failed because they were more an indulgence in nostalgia for the late 60s than a legitimate attempt to confront the problems of today that big political parties can't or won't acknowledge. And I have to say that Obama's team acknowledging the protesters demands seems to me to be a good thing. Civility may make less powerful street theater, but if anything it increases the chance of issues actually being addressed. If anything, I think that the rather lackluster protests show that some of the tools of the baby boomer generation are no longer the best ones to effect change and register necessary dissent. That doesn't mean that dissent itself is impossible.

Posted by Beguine | August 28, 2008 3:50 PM

Seems to me that if you're on the "real" left and upset that no one in this country agrees with you, maybe you should spend more time building up a halfway decent PR machine (like every other legit political movement) and less time whining on the interwebs.

Posted by shub-negrorath | August 28, 2008 3:51 PM

@18 you stupid jackass.

so it was yesterday (WHEN IT HAPPENED).

Posted by cochise. | August 28, 2008 3:54 PM

I gotta say Charles, stating the obvious can work as a style choice (such as in your "Black Cock" story in the current issue) but more often than not it's just telling us what we already know. The radical left is dead and the center coalition is in charge? This just in: The pope is Catholic!

Now stop messing around and give us what we really want from you on Slog! Photographs of babes!

Posted by Gurldoggie | August 28, 2008 4:14 PM

Why hasn't The Stranger reported that the North won the Civil War? Are you pro-slavery?

Posted by elswinger | August 28, 2008 4:18 PM

@18: read the morning news. Newb.
/rolls eyes

Posted by Original Monique | August 28, 2008 4:19 PM


Posted by COMTE | August 28, 2008 4:34 PM

"No one in this town" went to the Nader Rally?

I did. And so did over 4,000 other people, selling out DU's Magness Arena. It was filled to capacity hours before Nader spoke for Christ's sake! What kind of reporting is this?

I like Obama. I caucused for Obama. But I don't like that he voted for FISA, and I don't like how he appears to be moving to the "center" (from center-right to further right). And as much as I want him to win and DON'T want McCain to win...the tough reality is that Obama is WRONG on every issue that I care about. He opposes single payer national health care, he opposes cutting the bloated defense budget, opposes a carbon pollution tax, he opposes ending the ridiculous drug war, he opposes impeachment for Bush/Cheney, he supports the Taft-Hartley anti-union law, he supports corporate personhood...the list goes on and on. If Obama (and the Democratic Party) is willing to turn his back on ME in favor of picking up votes from the moderates in the bible belt...why should I support him? He is the same as McCain on all these issues, the issues I care about. He shouldn't take the left for granted.

Posted by jabuhrer | August 29, 2008 10:00 AM

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