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Tuesday, July 1, 2008

re: There Better Not Be Any Tobacco in That Joint, Kidů

posted by on July 1 at 17:15 PM


Adapted from Toward a Global View of Alcohol, Tobacco, Cannabis, and Cocaine Use: Findings from the WHO World Mental Health Surveys in PLoS Medicine.

More graphs and analysis at the Dear Science blog.

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Could you please run "Percentage who bought a bag of weed from these two dudes with a pitbull named Diesel"?

Posted by Bob | July 1, 2008 5:39 PM

Damnit, Jonathan, we need analysis!

Posted by Justin | July 1, 2008 5:47 PM

The graphs must be wrong. Ever been to France? 95% of the people who live there smoke.

Posted by must be wrong | July 1, 2008 5:53 PM

Analysis schmalysis - we're number one!

Posted by umvue | July 1, 2008 5:58 PM

The data should reflect those who are tobacco or cannabis users, not those who a "ever used".

Posted by Dougsf | July 1, 2008 6:18 PM

If anyone's curious, a quick search pulled up the greatest number of smokers per capita, per country. Actually, this might be based on actual cigarette consumption per capita, but the conclusions should be similar given the nature of the addiction.

Here's how the top 10 fared:
1. Greece
2. Macedonia
3. Russia
4. Czech Republic
5. Slovenia
6. Spain
7. Japan
8. Ukraine
9. Bulgaria

Cannabis use stats by country were harder to find, but best i could do was:
#1 New Zealand
#2 Australia
#3 United States
#4 United Kingdom
#5 Switzerland
#6 Ireland
#7 Spain
#8 Canada
#9 Netherlands
#10 Belgium

Unless of course the assignment was to see if we would argue about data that is completely detached from analysis, in which case I fail, or pass, depending on what was supposed to happen.

Posted by Dougsf | July 1, 2008 6:31 PM

@ Dougsf

Where did you pull that data from?

Posted by Yvonne | July 1, 2008 7:05 PM

I meant HERE...

I KNEW I'd seen these graphs somewhere before. Similar information was previously published


Posted by umvue | July 1, 2008 7:18 PM

@8 outass?

Posted by chet | July 1, 2008 8:03 PM

I seem to remember seeing lists that put Canada at the top, ahead of the US and the Netherlands. Ah, here it is:

..think the difference here is regular usage vs. "tried it". In regular usage Canada leads the industrialized world. Yeah Canada! (notice hard drug usage is average or below much for "gateways".

Proud of the home country...

Posted by Canuckibas | July 1, 2008 8:27 PM

How can the number in France be so low, every young person in Paris seems to use hash. It's almost as easy to find as a baguette Ta guele.

Posted by kinaidos | July 1, 2008 8:47 PM

less than 10% of mexicans have smoked weed?


Posted by maxsolomon@home | July 1, 2008 9:03 PM


A half-assed analysis is on my blog, with additional graphs. I'm still mulling over what I think of this study's methology and will update that post to something more involved when I've made up my mind.

Posted by Jonathan Golob | July 1, 2008 9:46 PM

Just FYI, the datestamps on the posts on Dear Science show 2007, not 2008. :) Otherwise, great piece! Thanks for showing us the data!

Posted by NaFun | July 2, 2008 7:20 AM


Ha! I found out why: The year function in the Wordpress template I'm using was, "return 2007".

Heh. I corrected it.

Posted by Jonathan Golob | July 2, 2008 8:25 AM

#7 - here's the cannabis use stats:

I'd imagine it's hard to accurately account for per capita use of an illegal substance, but it's the only link I could find online that didn't seem to have an obvious agenda (DEA, NORML, or the millions of High Times-y websites).

The tobacco facts were from marketing data, and I'd have to intuitively agree with those.

Posted by Dougsf | July 2, 2008 12:40 PM

Wow, China is totally winnning the war on drugs.

Posted by Stinky | July 2, 2008 2:40 PM

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