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Monday, July 14, 2008

Americans Are Too Stupid for Satire: The Proof

posted by on July 14 at 12:07 PM

Over at WorldNetDaily, a conservative web site, a poll on the Obama New Yorker cover reveals the breathtaking idiocy of right-wing America. As of this morning, the most popular option, with 60 percent of votes, was “the image isn’t too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family.” The second most popular option? “Funny, because there’s some truth in it.” Only five percent chose “hilarious, it’s perfect satire.” The scary thing is that these people vote.

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"The scary thing is that these people vote". Funny. Many of us say the same about you when you freak out over something Bernie Mac says.

Posted by sleestak | July 14, 2008 12:17 PM

There were only about 1300 people who voted “the image isn’t too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family.”

Nothing to worry about. Move along.

Posted by Sir Learnsalot | July 14, 2008 12:27 PM

This cover is what will sink Obama: Expect him to take a big hit in the polls within two weeks that he will not recover from.

Obama is on his way to going down into defeat against McCain.

Posted by Just Me | July 14, 2008 12:29 PM

Tasteless and extremely unfortunate. Free speech yes. Of course, this should be legally allowed. But an outlet with the New Yorker's reach needs to have a moral compass and avoid things that are so mean spirited. So much of the battle that Obama is fighting is against subliminal racism and fear and this feeds that fire mightily.

Posted by Bummer | July 14, 2008 12:29 PM

The really scary thing is the people who count the votes.

Posted by flamingbanjo | July 14, 2008 12:29 PM

Don't be so smug ECB, the typical Slogger isn't any brighter...

Posted by Random | July 14, 2008 12:30 PM

The people who are dumb enough to believe the crazy rumors about Obama will only see that cover as a confirmation of their beliefs. Few will buy the New Yorker to investigate, they never liked the New Yorker anyway.

It sickens me that the New Yorker would play a cheap publicity stunt when so much is at stake.

Posted by dammit | July 14, 2008 12:31 PM


Well said.

Posted by Sir Learnsalot | July 14, 2008 12:33 PM

If Hillary had won and the New Yorker had a Bill/Hillary cartoon that had a similar sendup (use your imagination), we'd be peeling ECB off the ceiling.

Posted by mistermix | July 14, 2008 12:37 PM

So what? You vote.

Posted by And that's pretty fucking scary. | July 14, 2008 12:37 PM

The scary things are the the people commenting on this and related posts with some bullshit about free speech BUT... Ach! I'm too pissed off to write anything coherent. Let's just say I think you're wrong. Wrong.

Posted by umvue | July 14, 2008 12:45 PM

The cover image is a perfect distraction from the content of the article. Obama's campaign is able to direct the ire to the cover art and the majority of the people up in arms won't bother to read the article.

Some of the things in the article *might* change the minds of people who were planning on voting for Obama. The cover art only affirms the beliefs about Obama in the minds of the people who wouldn't vote for him anyway.

Posted by PopTart | July 14, 2008 12:46 PM

Or maybe the people voting - all 1400 of them... took the "dangerous truth" option because they found voting for that one funny?

ECB you're not the only person on Earth with a sense of humor, you know.

Posted by jmr | July 14, 2008 12:54 PM

If the media would chill out on making a huge stink about it, the only people who would even see this cover are New Yorker subscribers, who'd most likely get the joke.

Nobody said a word a few months ago when the New Yorker featured Hillary & Obama in bed together because there was no media feeding frenzy about it.

Posted by Queen Vidor | July 14, 2008 12:56 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if the New Yorker proved responsible for the defeat of the leftist presidential candidate in 2008?

Posted by Bub | July 14, 2008 12:57 PM

And by the way, WorldNetDaily is not exactly in the mainstream of conservative thought. Michael Medved always refers to it as "WorldNutDaily".

Posted by jmr | July 14, 2008 12:58 PM
This cover is what will sink Obama: Expect him to take a big hit in the polls within two weeks that he will not recover from.

Jesus, do you really think that? That's ridiculous.

Posted by Judah | July 14, 2008 1:11 PM

The scary thing is that when ECB does a hit piece on Obama, people read it.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 14, 2008 1:15 PM

also... when was the last time you took a DailyKOS poll seriously. I sure as fuck don't. now back to work everyone

Posted by ho' know | July 14, 2008 1:23 PM

ECB, are you really shocked that hyper-conservative white folk would find black people frightening?

No magazine cover was even needed for them to feel this way. These are the same people who cross to the other side of the street if a black person is approaching...

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | July 14, 2008 1:24 PM


Posted by Vince | July 14, 2008 1:29 PM

I always wonder why Democrats don't fight back.

Why can't Obama say, "I'm getting sick of people questioning my patriotism. Why don't we question the Republican's patriotism? How patriotic is it to enact policies that result in the tanking of the economy? If the Republican party were so patriotic they would have been more careful about where they chose to send our troops, they wouldn't have sold our economy to China and Saudi Arabia. The Republicans have been trashing this nation while wrapping themselves in a flag for 8 years now. It's time to look at the substance of their actions. Bush and McCain say they love this country, but have driven us into a morally bankrupt foreign policy and a broken economy. They've shredded the Constitution for their own selfish purposes. That's a bad way to show love, in my mind. I'll show this country with actions, how much I love it, and how much I love her people with policies that restore us to a state of honor in the world community, by working to restore justice and strength to our economy, and stuff, dude."

Anyway. I'm all fired up. The double standard bugs me.

Posted by Nerntasaurus | July 14, 2008 1:35 PM

ECB you are so clueless!! I don't even know where to begin except to say it just keeps getting more and more entertaining.

YOU are the one too stupid for politics.

Your constant amazement "Wow" about Bernie Mac jokes and "The Proof" about conservatives.

I'm starting to understand why your opinions are so misguided. You think the WorldNetDaily poll is pretty damning. Um, ok.

Posted by Them over You | July 14, 2008 1:48 PM

22 - apparently you haven't been paying very close attention. obama has been saying that for some time now. as far as i can tell he's the first and only democrat to proactively fight back like that.

and erica, if you think the readership of the world net daily is an accurate reflection the intelligence of americans, then you really need to get out of your liberal bubble a little more often.

Posted by brandon | July 14, 2008 1:58 PM

You could also say it shows that these people are RIPE for satire, rather than being too stupid for it, which was the point in the first place...

Posted by Trevor | July 14, 2008 2:07 PM

The people who said "hilarious - perfect satire" probably meant "hilarious - perfect satire of the Obamas!"

Posted by Phoebe | July 14, 2008 2:10 PM

We won't support ball-less NO-Bama and will re-defeat him in November!!!

Posted by clintonsarmy | July 14, 2008 2:26 PM

As soon as this magazine hit the racks in every town (yes even Puyallip) I bet you hand over fist that a huge majority of "aint gonna vote for no black man" voters
have this on their garage walls, right next to the dixie flag throwing darts at it.
But thinking about that, there were some just comming over to the other side, you know the ones who can't read, or just read auto mechanic, and are getting sick of Rush Limbaugh.
Those votes might have counted to just edge Mccain out .
But now the New Yorker just thinks everyone will get it.
I don't think so New Yorker. That blaintant everybody who gets it will vote for Obama anyways, and those who don't were not going to anyways just shows you that the New Yorker has never once heard or listen ot heart what Obama is trying to change about this country.
The image is a political cartoon but it needs to be next to an article about what the hell it aludes to.
On the cover without a caption or explanation, it might as well be an image of Obama in black face 1930s characature paint saying "Mammy", with Jackson in KKK garb looming over him ready to cut his nutz off. How bout that for shock and awe New Yorker. Jeesh.
ECB you are right people sometimes don't get the satire. But maybe somehow we ought to try and explain that directly to ones who don't. Even those who read the New Yorker are not one hundred percent going to vote Obama either. On the other hand some locals at the country bar do not believe the lies about Obama. but being preached to or talk down too by the 'educated types' ,ight just cause resentment and them to switch their vote.
This spits in the eye of what Obama was trying to do to reach across the table for both blacks and whites. Its )* and it does set us back. Keep on ignoring the voting will of any people and slapping them down if they don't get the satire, doesn't change the fact that they still vote.
Obamas friendly jestures and talking points do. Now the insult has added to the injury.
Wehter we are clued in or not to the 'joke'.

Posted by sci fi | July 14, 2008 2:43 PM

So what we've learned is that 60% of the people on that site are too dumb to be allowed to vote even on an online poll.

Posted by Colin | July 14, 2008 2:54 PM


Yeah, I've only been reading newspapers, watching the news, and checking the news online at multiple sites.

I'm reading his speeches from his website now to catch up.

Posted by Nerntasaurus | July 14, 2008 2:56 PM

Even Daryl Cagle political cartoonist has a good point why the image is bad.
the image lacks the context for anyone educated or not. And Cagle exaggerates important firgures and americans everyday. But it is true. It needs to be put into context. Or it just looks like Propaganda, and therefore fits right in next to the dixie flag or swastika with darts thrown at it.

Posted by sci fi | July 14, 2008 3:02 PM

uh, The New Yorker has millions of Republican suscribers.

I think they're down to about 98,000 suscribers most of whom are Comparative Lit majors working at dot coms, high school English teachers, and your liberal, Wolvo driving mama...

Posted by michael strangeways | July 14, 2008 3:15 PM

World Net Daily published this expose on witchcraft in America:

money quote:

"Witchcraft, sorcery, magic and idol worship have been around since the earliest days of man," said WND Editor Joseph Farah. "They do, indeed, pre-date Christianity as we know it today – just as their practitioners like to point out with pride. But they do not pre-date the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob – the one who created the universe. They are, in fact, part of a rebellion against Him and His laws."

Posted by Luke Baggins | July 14, 2008 4:03 PM

@32: Not sure if you're just being humorous as you throw around numbers, but just in case: New Yorker circulation is right around 1 million.

Those who suggest it is irrelevant (because they personally don't read it) clearly don't travel in the New York/Washington power circles.

Posted by bigyaz | July 14, 2008 4:08 PM

Now that the liberal New Yorker has published this racist trash, every right-wing rag out there can put up something 10 times worse and they just have to label it "satire" to make it OK. Nice work New Yorker. You just gave the right permission to be as openly racist as they can possibly imagine.

It's going to be an ugly, ugly election.

Posted by montex | July 14, 2008 4:13 PM

@35 - well, yeah, it will be ugly, but that's cause consumer confidence is LOWER than it was for the last 30 FRICKIN YEARS!

Which means they have to bring out the slime, cause they got nothing else.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 14, 2008 4:35 PM

Then why not use it after he is elected president? This cover feeds the fire of the 40% of America (the dumbest part) who think this cartoon is true.

This may be the first time a New Yorker cover will be tacked up where Klansmen and Skin Heads hang out.

Posted by elswinger | July 14, 2008 5:26 PM

"The scary thing is that these people vote"

Do they really? Look at all the tender hand-wringing liberals do over "the youth", "single Moms", "The working poor", etc.

They don't vote. They whine, but they don't vote. Could be the same with this bunch.

Posted by Is it November yet? | July 14, 2008 6:22 PM

People! Calm the fuck down!
Are you surprised that the results of a World Net Daily poll came out this way?
Take the same poll with Slog readers and you'd get an opposite response. This poll was hardly unbiased.

Posted by jean genie | July 14, 2008 7:21 PM

Obama's gonna get a massive bump out of the convention and McCain won't and Obama will ride it like a circus pony until the election. Don't sweat this shit. Kudos for the New Yorker to briefly, suddenly, unexpectedly making itself relevant.

Posted by Bob | July 14, 2008 9:55 PM


It's not "mean-spirited", it's SATIRE.

I swear to gawd, there is a gene that allows some people to appreciate satire, and when a person isn't expressing that gene. . .don't get it, CAN'T get it.

The cover was smart and funny and totally appropriate! The people who take it seriously weren't voting for Obama anyway. This doesn't matter. Except in that it's funny.

Posted by violet_dagrinder | July 15, 2008 7:51 AM

Since when is the 'WorldNetDaily' an accurate representation of what people in this country, or even conservatives specifically, think? Please, cite a reputable organization, or a reputable poll, ECB, and more of us may start to believe that you're a reputable human

Posted by Allen | July 15, 2008 10:15 AM

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