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Thursday, June 19, 2008

The Obama Ad Washington & Oregon Aren’t Getting

posted by on June 19 at 14:29 PM

Eli isn’t around, so I’ll pass on the general election fodder he’d normally be all over. This is Obama’s big new ad buy—full of white relatives, describing “values straight from the Kansas heartland”—and it’s going up in Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Virginia, according to Ben Smith. It’s notable that there are a lot of red reaches—Alaska, Montana, Georgia—and that Washington and Oregon have dropped out. The Obama campaign is feeling pretty cocky in the NW, looks like. We won’t be getting much love.

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i'm cool with it. BHO has the NW locked.

he's got to convince whitey he's not the antichrist, and we aren't that "whitey", though we're mighty white.

Posted by max solomon | June 19, 2008 2:32 PM

'...straight from the Kansas heartland...' Is that a coded hint on VP choice?

Posted by damnqueerfuck | June 19, 2008 2:33 PM

The close on that ad is genius shit.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 19, 2008 2:42 PM

No need to run ads in a state where he's been up over 20% in every poll since day one.

OR might need some help, but I don't think we'll see much activity from Obama, better to spend money in places he needs to win.

Posted by Chris | June 19, 2008 2:48 PM

I think it's a bit unfair to Obama that the reception to this ad (around the political blogosphere, with people like Matt Y) is that he is unsubtly trying to emphasize his white background. While there's likely some truth to that, the guy should be able to make reference to his own damn mother and grandparents without being told that he's trying to convince us he's white.

Posted by Gabriel | June 19, 2008 2:49 PM

I'm cool with that. If he can carry places like Iowa, Florida, and Indiana because of semi-ignoring Washington, I'm definitely willing to forgive President Obama.

Posted by Greg | June 19, 2008 2:55 PM

I'm 100% positive Obama's going to take Montana, maybe by a huge margin, as long as he doesn't do anything crazy like murder someone with his bare hands.

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 2:58 PM

I was going to compare this with McCain's "get to know me ad" on my blog, but I found this instead... McCain does cribs:

McCain does cribs:

Posted by Notecarder | June 19, 2008 2:58 PM

if hillary had run that ad you would have crucified her. oh wait, you already did. media bias runs both ways, my friends.

Posted by gross | June 19, 2008 2:58 PM

fnarf, you are an idiot. montana hasn't gone to a dem president in like 60 years. but keep on speaking your ill-informed opinions...

Posted by obama 2008! | June 19, 2008 3:05 PM

The candidate who spends the wisest wins.

It's the states where the American Idol-addled idiots still think he's a Muslim Manchurian Candidate where he needs ads as personal as this one to be seen. Washington is not one of those states.

Go for it, Barry, we know ya love us anyway...

Posted by Andy Niable | June 19, 2008 3:07 PM

@9 If she had won the nomination, few here would have a problem with her running an ad like this.

Posted by Mike of Renton | June 19, 2008 3:09 PM

A damn good ad. He's smart not to run it in Seattle, too. Talking about "values straight from the heartland" and "faith in the country I love" would probably turn off most Seattle voters.

Posted by David Wright | June 19, 2008 3:11 PM

#10, you are an idiot. Who cares if it hasn't gone D in 60 years?

Montana, Alaska, and the Dakotas are all within reach. McCain's candidacy hasn't even begun to implode yet, either.

Of course, there is only 12 EVs between them, but whatever.

Posted by w7ngman | June 19, 2008 3:16 PM

@10, Montana's got a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators. And they last supported a Democratic candidate for president SIXTEEN years ago, not sixty. That's three elections. Who's an idiot, now?

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 3:17 PM

Stop complaining. Not seeing that ad is proof
you don't live in a shithole.

Posted by karst | June 19, 2008 3:20 PM

Hey Fnarf @7 I think you might be right. Montana has a democratic governor and two democratic senators right now. Obama2008! @10, Montana supported Bill Clinton for president in 1992, which kinda makes your comment a little ironic.

Posted by rtw | June 19, 2008 3:21 PM

@1 and @5. . .good points! I totaly agree with ya'.

Posted by irl | June 19, 2008 3:24 PM

We'll defeat NO-Bama in November!!!

Posted by clintonsarmy | June 19, 2008 3:34 PM

What an insightful point you have there, #19. Better stock up on coat hangers.

Posted by w7ngman | June 19, 2008 3:39 PM

The political process overwhelms a candidate's good intentions.

Between this ad and his flip/flop on public campaign financing, it's clear from Mr. Obama's actions that we are going to get more of the same. He may change what he said he'd do, if it helps him politically. Whatever CHANGE he thought he'd bring has been thoroughly "boiled" out of him through the nomination process.

Yes, he wants to win. Yes, he has to play the game. But it's clear his handlers have trained him. Don't think that he can flip this on and off. Those same handlers will be guiding him if he is elected President. Telling him what he needs to do to win politically.

If it's not his handlers telling him to do this, then he simply mislead us. NO different than Clinton, Bush, or any politician.

Any hope for real change is dead.

Posted by Medina | June 19, 2008 3:42 PM

Gee, it's not like he's running 80 percent with massive donation levels around here.

Oh, wait ... he is.

Yeah, this ain't McSame country, that's for darned sure.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 19, 2008 3:47 PM

and @7 is right about Montana - that state's locked down too.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 19, 2008 3:50 PM

im not entirely happy with the welfare to work line.

Posted by um | June 19, 2008 3:51 PM

as a new yorker i take deep offense at his wall street jab...just kidding...
medina your not wearing all black and writing bad poetry right now are you? 'cause you sound like a regular barrel of monkeys to me...

Posted by douglas | June 19, 2008 3:54 PM

@15 -- Now, now...why go zero sum? You're both idiots, and mommy loves you each in your own special way.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 19, 2008 4:08 PM

You're not still mad, are you, Jubilation?

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 4:27 PM

The ad is fine. During the primaries, a candidate must appeal to the base. But once a primary is over and the general election campaign starts, all candidates run for the center. Duh.

And after the blowout he had here in the primary, it doesn't surprise me he isn't blowing money here on ads when he doesn't need to. Spend it where it might make a difference. November is still 5 months away, people. I'm sure we'll see ads here eventually.

Posted by Reverse Polarity | June 19, 2008 4:36 PM

I don't need Barack to kiss my ass. I need him to win this election. So fucking much. Heigh ho! BO!

Posted by Smade | June 19, 2008 4:57 PM

@27 -- You need to apologize for that song.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 19, 2008 5:27 PM

About time Democrats/progressives said "we stand up for America's values."

What I've liked about Obama is his ability to wrap together the colonists fighting the British, the civil rights workers, the greatest generation fighting the Nazi's etc. into one big American communicty where we all want opportunity for all and stand together.

Those who disdain patriotism/the American flag etc. don't get it.

Posted by PC | June 19, 2008 5:54 PM

note his background of French doors -- mullions make multiple crosses -- a la Huckabee ad -- nary a crescent to be seen.

Posted by PC | June 19, 2008 6:45 PM

@30, I did.

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 7:41 PM

@34 -- Where?

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 19, 2008 7:43 PM

In the original post. I don't know where it is. I can't find it now. I can't even find your burst of fury.

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 8:00 PM

Those kids were talented, and innocent, and it was awful. Hate them if you must for being MUFC, but some of those boys could have brought England a World Cup in 62 AND 66!!! And that has to be respected.

I'll shake your hand if you understand that.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 19, 2008 8:36 PM

Of course I do, Jube. Don't be daft.

For someone who claims to be a fan of English soccer, you don't understand the art of the windup very well, do you? That's the thing about the song; it's not offensive in what it SAYS, because what it says is ridiculous on the face of it. It's offensive because it was written -- not by me, may I point out -- deliberately to piss off Man Utd FANS, NOW. It's not disrespectful of the dead; it's disrespectful of the living.

See how that makes it all better?

Hmm. Let me try again. It's in the same spirit as songs about Posh Spice's cunt, or the reworking of "You'll Never Walk Again" into "You'll Never Work Again" -- "Sign on, sign on, with your pen in your hand...." It's designed to get a reaction. And, goddamn, it does!

So, yeah, I was winding you up, because it's funny to see. I didn't expect you to go off the deep end. And for that I am sorry. For singing it, no, but for pissing you off so much. Even though that's what I was trying to do. Does that make any sense? I was trying to get a rise; I wasn't trying to set your hair on fire. And no, I wasn't disrespecting the loss of life.

But you know, if you really want to hear the song sung loud, don't look at me. Go watch United play City at City of Manchester Stadium.

Posted by Fnarf | June 19, 2008 8:52 PM

Posh spice is a slapper.

Posted by Gabriel | June 19, 2008 11:29 PM

BHO is a superstar. Srsly.

Posted by Jamey | June 19, 2008 11:50 PM

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