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Yves St. Laurent died yesterday. He was probably the greatest couturier of the second half of the 20th Century, completely bonkers, and a radical in his own way.

His three weeks in the army in 1960 were said to be so traumatizing that it's said that he never recovered.

His career as a couturier ran from 1957 to 2002. His Mondrian collection in 1965, Le Smoking in 1967, and the Rich Hippies of 1976 are all legendary, and still plundered by other designers.

Take a moment today for Monsieur Yves.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 2, 2008 8:18 AM
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Why does Puerto Rico get more convention delegates then quite a few US states do? I know we want to give them a say for the symbolic gesture of it all, but does it make sense for them to have so much power if they can't even vote in November?

Posted by tsm | June 2, 2008 8:20 AM
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and like all gay fashion designers, mr. mark, he hated women. how else can you explain that crap he designed on models who looked like 12-year-old boys? traumatized by three weeks in the army? boo fuckin' hoo.

Posted by scary tyler moore | June 2, 2008 8:24 AM
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@3. I don't think he hated women.

"Nothing is more beautiful than a naked body. The most beautiful garment a woman can wear are the arms of the man she loves. But I am here for those who have not had the good luck to find that happiness."

"The drama for luxury is that there are so many stupid rich people. Luxury, so few know how to use it and make it respectable."



"A woman's most beautiful make-up is passion."

All three were said by him.

Posted by apres_moi | June 2, 2008 8:35 AM
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I hate women.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 8:36 AM
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tsm@2:

PR gets a Dem delegate for every 73k voters (4m/55dels). For WA it 83k voters (6.5m/78dels). For WY it's 41k voters (500k/12dels).

Where's the problem?

Posted by Big Sven | June 2, 2008 8:40 AM
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Re: Liver Transplants

How you like not being able to pay for organs now?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 8:42 AM
8

And God told me that to get rid of those last 7 Jews in Iraq, I will send a hunter to get them out! Praise God!!!!

Posted by Rev. Haggee | June 2, 2008 8:43 AM
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@6, the problem is that we're giving far more power to a commonwealth that can't vote in the general election than we do to a lot of states that most certainly can. It won't affect much this time around, but it just seems like it's not necessarily conducive to picking a winning candidate.

(And if Obama had won Puerto Rico, I'm quite certain this would instantly become a Clinton talking point.)

Posted by tsm | June 2, 2008 8:44 AM
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He Made Them an Offer They Couldnít Refuse:  US hospital gives Japanese mob boss a liver transplant. Good thing he didnít smoke pot.
--with a link to Fox News, no less.

This was the lead story in the L.A. fuckin' Times three days ago.  Keeping an eye on Fox News is all fine and good, but to the exclusion of the country's 3 or 4 major front pages (NYT, WaPo, LAT, and [maybe] USAT)?

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 8:58 AM
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how do you like livers being rationed according to who you are and what influence you can pull? under a somewhat regulated market for livers the mobsters would have received as would the smoking on doctors recommendation.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 9:01 AM
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@3 His models looked nothing like 12-year-old boys. Most often they were tall, regal-looking women of African descent.

As for his clothes being "crap", if stunningly imagined, gorgeously colored, perfectly fitted, paradigm-shifting work is "crap", then so be it.

And frankly, 3 weeks in the army would probably be enough to wreck my nerves for the next 50 years, but I'm sensitive like that.

Have a nice day.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 2, 2008 9:03 AM
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and what's with those design review meetings?! didn't we win the cold war ?! ?!

Posted by ron paul jr | June 2, 2008 9:05 AM
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apres_moi @4,

I don't have any particular opinion on YSL, but the quotes you cite don't really counter the assertion that he hated women.  In fact, one could argue that the first quote actually reveals a bit of misogyny (besides being condescending and suggesting bizarre implications for women who have "had the good luck").  The second quote is irrelevant, and the third is an empty platitude.

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 9:10 AM
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why can't you fault the women for gobbling up misogynist fashion?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 9:22 AM
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@15

Cuz they're the victims!

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 9:27 AM
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scary tyler moore @3:

traumatized by three weeks in the army? boo fuckin' hoo.

I have little idea what it was like to be a gay man in the French army in wartime in 1960.  Scenarios where YSL is laughably oversensitive and scenarios that in 3 weeks would reduce nearly anyone to hysteria both seem easily imaginable to me.

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 9:29 AM
18

Who has it worse in terms of victimhood I don't care about? Women or Native Americans?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 9:30 AM
19

But what if i need those drugs?
My brain really does not work.

Posted by dw | June 2, 2008 9:33 AM
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dw, I need those drugs too but at the same time I don't really care if people are using amphetimines to excel at school. the idea that you should be restricted from accessing your full potential unnaturally in high stakes learning environments is ludicrous, especially when those non natural options are available later in life.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 9:36 AM
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The Slog should link to this story:

Veterans share their stories, urge an end to the war in Iraq
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/365371_antiwar01.html

I'm disappointed that no Slogger wrote about it last week, encouraging people to go to Town Hall on Saturday. Sam M made a recent post about Winter Soldier but he didn't even realize what the video clip was. Now our local veterans have made the same stand as the ones in DC.
http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier

Posted by Jamey | June 2, 2008 9:40 AM
22

Pain is beauty, beauty is pain.

And since I am victim now, I want some money.

Posted by Original Monique | June 2, 2008 9:55 AM
23

1. "Why does Puerto Rico get more convention delegates then quite a few US states do?"

Por que son seres humanos como Vds. y PR tiene mas poblacion de muches de los EEUU.

Tonto.

2. "I know we want to give them a say for the symbolic gesture of it all,"

No, Sr. imperialista, queremos "darles" votos y representation porque es una asumto fundamental del partido democratico que inclyamos a todos. Todos son importantes. No nos gusta el imperialismo, aunque a Ud. le gusta mucho.

3. "does it make sense for them to have so much power"

No tienen demadisado, faltan muchos de los derechos que tienen Uds.

4. "if they can't even vote in November?"

Ahh ya le entiendo. Tomar el pais. Rechazar los derechos iquales para los puerto riqquenos. Y luego, pone la falta en las victimas.

Le entiendo bien: no son blancos, no son anglo sajones, son morenos y negros, y por tanta no valen como Uds.

Que tonterias racistas.

Es que Ud. trabaja por el Fox News o Rush Limbaugh?

"

Posted by CP | June 2, 2008 10:13 AM
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@18,

Shut the fuck up. You are a pathetic little whiny turd.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 10:16 AM
25

and? you seem to get a rise out of it.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 10:21 AM
26

CP @23, well said (I think).

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 10:24 AM
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@25,

Tell us, again, Bellevue Ave, how oppressed you are on Slog. You are the victim. How unsurprising that you can't stand other people's victimhood detracting from your own.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 10:33 AM
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Hated women? YSL is the guy who made it acceptable for women to wear pants to work. Pretty liberating, in fact.

Posted by Fnarf | June 2, 2008 10:35 AM
29

Keshmeshi, have you ever considered acquiring a sense of humor? It's free. Might even be able to remove that mega-bitch stamp you have stamped on your forehead.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 10:40 AM
30

What a worthless, dishonest hack you are, PC. "Sr. imperialista?" Spare me the bullshit, pendejo; you know quite well my argument had nothing to do with race. Yes, PR should have the right to vote in presidential elections, and the Democratic party should let them vote in the primary if only in support of this idea. The fact, remains, however, that they can't, and giving them more nominating power than 27 U.S. states get is pretty bizarre in light of that fact.

The irony is that several weeks ago you were around here incessantly whining about how Obama's support was coming from red states which should be neglected because they "wouldn't be voting Democratic anyway". Now you're defending giving more delegates to a commonwealth that definitely won't vote Democratic in November, because they can't.

Posted by tsm | June 2, 2008 10:44 AM
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Keshmeshi just cant handle my heterosexual white man privilege.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 10:54 AM
32

Keshmeshi is soooooooooooo oppressed. Get some more dick in the kitchen to do the dishes so she can watch Oprah.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 11:08 AM
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The irony is that several weeks ago you were around here incessantly whining about how Obama's support was coming from red states which should be neglected because they "wouldn't be voting Democratic anyway". Now you're defending giving more delegates to a commonwealth that definitely won't vote Democratic in November, because they can't.

Right. How exactly does Puerto Rico play into your comically-misguided "electoral college" argument, unPC?

Posted by w7ngman | June 2, 2008 11:11 AM
34

Now, now, kids. Let's play nice. BA and Kesh, you go play on opposite sides. Mr. Poe, go stand in the corner.

Posted by Fnarf | June 2, 2008 11:15 AM
35

I'm ready to leave the corner now.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 11:18 AM
36

Mr. Poe, did you count to 500?

Posted by w7ngman | June 2, 2008 11:23 AM
37

No. I played Sister Ray in my head from start to finish.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 11:31 AM
38

It does seem like somebody pissed in everyone's wheaties this morning. Slog seems extra-cranky with a generous dollop of bitch.

If we're not careful we're going to get one of those adorable baby animal photos.

Posted by PopTart | June 2, 2008 11:34 AM
39

@3 It is pretty homophobic to begin your post "Like all gay fashion designers". You accuse YSL of using his bigotry to oppress women yet employ it yourself. Odd.

Posted by inkweary | June 2, 2008 11:39 AM
40

All right, then - sea otter chaser for everyone.

Posted by tsm | June 2, 2008 11:43 AM
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@32,

Yes, my attacking a moron on the internet is definite proof of my oppression. How about we talk about gay issues, Poe? Whenever those come up you seem to believe in your own victimhood.

And I'll get a sense of humor when BA does, and when he grows a brain.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 11:51 AM
42

kesh is a woman?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 11:52 AM
43

In support of apres_moi @4, (and in counterpoint to myself @14), this YSL quote from the New York Times obit:

"My small job as a couturieris to make clothes that reflect our times.  Iím convinced women want to wear pants."

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 11:55 AM
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kesh is a woman?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 11:57 AM
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@41

I'm allowed to have double standards because I'm fucking awesome. And come on, you bitches have been trying to holster the victim limelight for decades now. You don't have it anymore. You don't deserve it anymore. Deal.

Bellevue Ave has a sense of humor. A great one at that. You wouldn't know, though, because you've never bothered to attend a Slog Happy to find out how we are in person.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 12:00 PM
46

white men don't need brains kesh, we rely on exploiting other peoples flaws to our advantage

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 12:03 PM
47

@45,

Victim.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 12:05 PM
48

@46,

You keep trying to be funny and somehow you keep failing.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 12:07 PM
49

you got me kesh, but I don't care

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 12:14 PM
50

keshmeshi, you got trolled with ease.

Posted by w7ngman | June 2, 2008 12:16 PM
51

Come on, Keshmeshi. Don't make me get the hairbrush.

Posted by Fnarf | June 2, 2008 12:16 PM
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Bellevue Ave @46:

white men don't need brains kesh, we rely on exploiting other peoples flaws to our advantage

It's a darwinian kind of intelligence, like the remarkably clever behavior of bees.

Posted by lostboy | June 2, 2008 12:19 PM
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show me a gay male fashion designer who doesn't design clothes for anorexic women or uncomfortable shoes. do any gay male fashion designers design for the the full figure gal? like a size 8? no?

*crickets*

thought so.

Posted by scary tyler moore | June 2, 2008 12:21 PM
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We haven't been able to resist trolling Keshmeshi ever since she admitted to eating yeast infection.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 12:27 PM
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Straight fashion designers who like women are also the root of all evil. Can't win for losing.

Posted by elenchos | June 2, 2008 12:29 PM
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sct, show me a woman that has to buy fashiionable clothing. women aren't helplessly oppressed if they explcitly support anorexia with their pocket books.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 12:32 PM
57

BA, that argument doesn't really make any sense.

Posted by Abby | June 2, 2008 12:39 PM
58

@53 Michael Kors

Posted by PopTart | June 2, 2008 12:42 PM
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@53,

Show me any fashion designer (who doesn't work in the plus size industry) who designs for real women's bodies. There are some big name designers who offer a plus size line in addition to the skinny bitches line, but you certainly don't see it on the runway.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 12:43 PM
60

abby, what a part?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 12:55 PM
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kesh, women buy the designers lines in spite of what model is on the runway. maybe if women actually didn't condone those decisions it wouldn't happen.

also its easier to desigb and model clothes on a standard frame that isn't real because it opens up model selection and requuires less alteration for the model.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 1:02 PM
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It's more that I'm annoyed at the idea that "women who buy these clothes = all women", but I know you're just being contradictory, bellevue. It's just an extremely slow day at work...

Posted by Abby | June 2, 2008 1:36 PM
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why would anyone read it as "all women"?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 1:40 PM
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Clothes look better on skinny people. It's not all misogyny and jazz hands people.

Regular people don't look as good in clothing, period. Its not difficult to understand. Size 8? Doesn't look good that great in jeans. I should know.

Plus, with tall/skinny people the clothes hang better.

I am not offended by this (as a short, average size person), and the really skinny anorexic look is just what is in for the past couple decades. Get over it. Hot people sell things better. Everything you buy is advertised with that in mind.

Posted by Original Monique | June 2, 2008 1:50 PM
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Actually I think it is jazz hands.

Posted by Fnarf | June 2, 2008 1:59 PM
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@61,

Excuse me, where do you find me complaining about the fashion industry? Address someone who's complaining, moron.

Your argument that women are responsible for this state of affairs is so asinine I'm not even sure where to begin. For starters, most women are not self-actualized. Most women are not feminists. Most women have bought into our shallow and superficial culture. But it's their fault, more than the fault of designers and marketers who spend millions of dollars every year to convince people that this is how it should be. I would like nothing better than for women to spurn this shit. Although I can imagine the shrieking from shallow men, like you, when their source of eye candy dries up.

But that will never happen. Shallowness and superficiality keep the economy going.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 2:03 PM
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@64 Umm, bullshit. Marilyn Monroe was not skinny and people thought she looked good in what she wore. If the clothes you are wearing fit well and are an appropriate style for your body type they can look good no matter what size you are. And, half of wearing clothes well is the personality of the person wearing them.

I've seen skinny people who look terrible in the clothes they are wearing. Just as I've seen larger size people who really rock the outfit they are wearing.

And why the hell are we arguing about women's fashions on Slog today? Did we just morph into the blog for WWD or something?

Posted by PopTart | June 2, 2008 2:05 PM
68

Misogyny, jazz hands and spirit fingers.

Posted by kid icarus | June 2, 2008 2:11 PM
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Marilyn Monroe was skinny when you consider the time. And tiny. And beautiful. You could put rags on her and she'd blow everyone out of the water.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 2:11 PM
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@64,

The ugly shit that most designers (Yves not withstanding) try to fob off on the public looks tolerable only on skinny people. And there are many types of clothes that don't look good on skinny women.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 2:18 PM
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kesh, I am happily dating a woman who makes her own clothing and who isn't a slave to modern fashion or trend following. She is beautiful first thing in the morning with no makeup and beautiful when she decides she wants to experiment and apply makeup. She is a size 8 or 10, I dont really know which because it doesn't matter to me; she is the love of my life and through thick or thin I want to be with her.

On to the more relevant point than my personal life; Why is it the fault of designers giving women what they want and continue to show that they want by continuing to shell out money for it. Your conclusion that women aren't responsible for the choices they make is much more insulting about women as a gender than anything I've ever come up with. Women have no power to think clearly about what is good for themselves? It's really insulting to believe that most women are so powerless to resist the simple manipulation on the pages of Cosmo that somebody else should take responsibility for them.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 2:24 PM
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Point of order: most men that I know like women that look like women. Monique gets more attention at SLOG night than any other woman there.

Carry on.

Posted by Big Sven | June 2, 2008 2:36 PM
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@71,

Jesus Christ.

Women are told from the second we hit puberty and on and on for the rest of our lives that: 1. Our looks are paramount to our importance in this world. 2. No matter how beautiful we are, we are still inadequate. It's a rare woman who isn't insecure and who isn't given tons of reasons* to believe that she's fucking ugly. The fashion industry and the beauty industry overall spend millions, if not billions, of dollars every year to exploit this. But, you're right. It's all women's fault. Not the motherfuckers who deliberately make us feel like shit nor the motherfuckers who deliberately exploit our insecurities.

And, unlike you, I'm not saying it's all women. Some women buy into this shit hook, line and sinker and you, despite your protestations, are happy to blame all women for it.


*I can't speak for all women, but almost every person who has insulted my appearance has been of the male persuasion.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 2:40 PM
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Someone needs to smash twenty violins over your head, Kesh. When you're unconscious, who knows, maybe the world will start revolving around the sun again.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 2:44 PM
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Why is it the fault of designers giving women what they want and continue to show that they want by continuing to shell out money for it.

For someone who is so pro-business, it's astounding how little you know about how business works.

Marketing and advertisement, from their very beginning, manufacture needs. Business doesn't figure out what people need and deliver those things to them. Business tells us what we need and commands us to buy those things. And that's the very definition of fashion.

Perhaps you should address your own incredible ignorance before you dictate how other people should behave.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 2:44 PM
76

/yawn

Why is this the most interesting thread on Slog.

Gawd I am bored.

Posted by Original Monique | June 2, 2008 2:45 PM
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I'm happy to encourage women to take greater responsibility for themselves and how they feel instead of leaving it to a man to be benevolent and dictate that being a fatty is the new hot look.

Seriously, why are you so bent on letting victims continue to be victimized by forcing someone else to do something that is only a placeholder for what is wrong with the individual. Skinny models aren't why women feel insecure, women feel insecure because they rely on something outside of themselves for validation and acceptance and self image. If being a blubbery blob of fat was what was hot you'd blame the medium for projection unhealthy values on women that few can live up to instead of going "why the fuck do so many women look to something outside of themselves for what they should be?"

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 2:51 PM
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why the fuck do so many women look to something outside of themselves for what they should be?

I do ask that question. And I mostly have an answer. You are projecting what you want onto my argument. At no point have I said that women should have no blame, I'm just sick of you putting the blame primarily on women, on all women, rather than sticking it to society and to the fashion industry, which takes a huge part of the blame. Why are you so hell bent on blaming only women? Especially when your argument isn't that women should look within themselves to feel better about themselves, but to rather shut the fuck up because you are sick of hearing about it.

Well, I'm sick of hearing your ignorant bullshit. So, shut the fuck up already.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 2:57 PM
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Seriously, why are you so bent on letting victims continue to be victimized by forcing someone else to do something that is only a placeholder for what is wrong with the individual.

Answer the question, Kesh.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 3:03 PM
80

Fashion designer don't design for skinny women, they design for RICH women, and they know clothes and they know what they want to pay for. If you aren't rich you buy the eventual copies and things that become trendy after the rich ladies pick out what they like.
Also, designing for the thin and the fat are very different things altogether, and have little to do with one another. No one makes anyone buy anything and anorexia has nothing to do with fashion.

Posted by inkweary | June 2, 2008 3:06 PM
81

@79,

Victim.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 3:09 PM
82

Kesh, you don't know anything about advertising except what you've learned in supposed documentaries about how evil it is.

Your contention that advertisement creates wants basically would make most consumers idiots and susceptible to the "rainmaker" effect where because said good didn't deliver the benefits that it touted, people would just have to consume more of that good. products have to confer some benefit to people otherwise they wouldnt be able to be sold on a continual basis. unless you think everyone but yourself is too stupid to evaluate benefit received independent of benefit implied.

You're also confused about why advertisements seem to make people want things. People want specific ends, specific benefits in their life. Advertisements merely make a connection between said product and the benefits the person already desires to have. Does that mean the actual connection exists? Not always and it will vary based on what people expected the product to deliver.

I think your loathing of humanity is really sad though and it might explain a lot about you and what you post.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 3:19 PM
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kesh, sweetie, put up my own words that state your contention that i want women to "shut the fuck up" for my benefit. I wan't women to take responsibility for themselves and how they feel instead of blaming other people for making them feel a certain way.

everything you've said here is patronizing towards women, gay men, people in general, and it really pushes home the point that maybe your brand of feminism is less about women's empowerment and more about men being better stewards of women.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 3:32 PM
84

theres an old yittish proverb that explains my stance succinctly; you may not be able to control the wind but you can adjust your sails.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 3:33 PM
85

@82,

Read up on advertisement, Bellevue Ave. Demonstrate that you're not an ignoramus. Ads are designed to manipulate you. If you don't want to believe it, fine. But it takes a lot for an individual to overcome it.

People want specific ends, specific benefits in their life.

Right. Like becoming beautiful when your society says you're ugly and you ain't worth shit until you somehow magically change that.

And you still haven't demonstrated how you don't think that all women are responsible. You say that you don't blame all women, but then you turn around and blame all women. Make up your fucking mind and stop lying.

I think your loathing of humanity is really sad though and it might explain a lot about you and what you post.

Funny. I was thinking the same thing about you. It's sad how you see yourself above everyone else and how you base that presumption on astounding ignorance of how the world works.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 3:34 PM
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@83,

I have said nothing about gay men, except to throw Mr. Poe's victimhood in his face. Like you, he shouldn't call other people victims when he clearly considers himself one.


Who has it worse in terms of victimhood I don't care about? Women or Native Americans?

That sounds an awful lot like: "shut the fuck up, bitch."

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 3:36 PM
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@84,

Yiddish, you ignoramus.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 2, 2008 3:38 PM
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read up on decision theory and microeconomics to prove you aren't an ignoramus about the theory of the firm and why things are produced and why they arent...is that a valid argument kesh?

kesh, society values beautiful people and that's the fault of advertisement? eons before advertisement i'm pretty sure the beautiful women in society were being plucked up by rich old gents and they certainly weren't being directed to do so from the Gutenberg Press. Or on clay tablets. The only thing that changes in society is what beauty is, not the fact that it is valued.

It's funny how the positive message of "Self improvement through greater responsibility and reliance" is translated to you as "shut the fuck up" but "most women are too stupid to think for themselves and thats why advertisements are bad" is one of humanitarianism.

And i never said all women are responsible for all women's plights. Individual women are responsible for how they feel about themselves and if the cede that responsibility to another group or party then I really can't be too broken up about the end result.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 3:51 PM
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What's funny is Keshmeshi thinks she's kicking ass here. What's funny is Keshmeshi thinks she makes sense. What's funny is if Keshmeshi killed herself, nobody would read her letter.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 3:58 PM
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If kesh offed herself, she'd blame society for making the noose.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 2, 2008 4:35 PM
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keshmeshi, i must take you sharply to task over calling mr. poe a victim. he is about the least victim-ly person i know. and i'm not just sayin' that 'cause he grabs my big butt at slog happy hour. mr. poe knows how to have a good time and lives life to the fullest. so knock it off, kesh, before i give you a good rap upside the head.

Posted by scary tyler moore | June 2, 2008 4:45 PM
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Yeah! YEAH! You big meanie!

If you were to meet me, you'd understand 9/10 of my comments. If you choose not to, you will be with the minority who believe me to actually be a sexist. Which I totally am. Word.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 2, 2008 6:10 PM

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