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Posted by momster | June 5, 2008 4:44 PM

No wrongdoing? Starting Miguel Cairo (OPS FIVE OH EIGHT) at first base? That's not wrongdoing?

Posted by Fnarf | June 5, 2008 4:52 PM

Gee, Dan, now do ya think just maybe that reality-show attention whore was doing a little more than just pecking her partner on the cheek? That seemed a likely scenario from the get-go, but of course it made a much better outrage story to blame the Mariners for their homophobia, didn't it?

Posted by suburbanlegend | June 5, 2008 5:05 PM

her case would be a lot stronger if she hadn't publicly, sloppily made out with Tila Tequila on TV.

Posted by brett | June 5, 2008 5:10 PM

#5, you have to admit, though, a misguided and reactionary protest would still be a riot. Oh so clever.

Posted by w7ngman | June 5, 2008 5:26 PM

#4, even.

Posted by w7ngman | June 5, 2008 5:27 PM

Well ... @4, it'd be easier to assume that if her story wasn't pretty well confirmed by the guy who kicked her out!

Posted by ben | June 5, 2008 5:30 PM

Safeco Field is apparently emphasizing that the comment about explaining why two women are kissing originated with another fan, not with the staff member (members?) who then quoted it to Guerrero and her date.

That's a red herring.  (As is Guerrero's putative attention-whoring.)

The comment, of course, characterizes same-sex kissing as (a) fundamentally different from, and (b) inherently more offensive than opposite-sex kissing.  For an employee to repeat it to the kissing couple at all, much less actually cite the comment as a supporting reason for proscribing their behavior, is discriminatory in and of itself.  Doing so endorses the legitimacy of the comment's distinction of sexual orientation, under color of authority and with Safeco Field's imprimatur.

That Rebecca Hale's statement to the P.I. failed to address this belies the assertions of Safeco Field's sincerity and seriousness about investigating the incident.  Seems what they were sincere and serious about was PR damage control.

Posted by lostboy | June 5, 2008 5:35 PM

This is all a ploy by the Mariners to fill Safeco in a shitty season. I mean, you start getting the word out that dykes are on each other at Safeco, and all of Renton will hock their ATVs to buy season tickets.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | June 5, 2008 5:37 PM

lostboy, you beat me to it:

If the discomfort in explaining to the kids why two women were kissing wasn't the reason the usher kicked them out, then why did he repeat to them what the complaining mother had said? Is it merely the job of ushers to relay prejudiced slurs from one guest to another at the park without owning any responsibility for them?

Posted by elenchos | June 5, 2008 5:40 PM

Don't worry Dan, officials barely ever reply to me either when I write up posts about Seattle agencies that investigate themselves and always find themselves innocent.

You get used to it, being ignored can be liberating.

Posted by unwelcomed | June 5, 2008 5:42 PM

I stand by my post last week.

Posted by dw | June 5, 2008 5:58 PM

So what about a kiss-in? I think there should be one that involves gay folks and straight folks. We need to assert the right of people to show displays of affection in public. I will be be at some coming games with my bf and we will kiss in the stands. I dare anyone to stop us.

Posted by Steveve | June 5, 2008 6:17 PM

The most reasonable explanation for the usher repeating the comment of the complainer is that the usher probably felt caught in the middle of two raging egos and had to quiet one down. Not that repeating the comment was the best way to quell this sort of thing, but you can see how anyone would feel caught in such a situation.
I think it is mighty odd that all this started with just a peck on the cheek, as the kisser stated. Does anyone really ever call security over a peck on the cheek? I don't believe her.

Posted by calvin | June 5, 2008 6:52 PM

Bad things happen to reality TV contestants. Sweet poetic justice!

Posted by Sirkowski | June 5, 2008 7:09 PM

Note that the link ben @8 posted now has a post up from someone supposedly sitting near the incident who weighs in with his/her take. Pretty reputable-sounding, at that.

Posted by leek | June 5, 2008 7:40 PM

There should be a kiss-in, but it should be a mass LGBT-straight combined event.

It's easy to throw one couple out.

It's hard to throw ten couples out.

It's impossible to throw 1000 couples out.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 6, 2008 12:42 AM

KISS IN!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!

Posted by Mike in MO | June 6, 2008 5:23 AM

Will @18, agreed.  We should keep the kissing strictly tame but deliver it in all combinations of gender and orientation.

Safeco's self-exoneration doesn't wash imho, and action is called for.

Posted by lostboy | June 6, 2008 8:30 AM

#11 FYI, they were not 'kicked out', just told to 'tone it down'. Not agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to keep the facts straight.

Posted by benjr | June 6, 2008 9:42 AM

I feel cheated. I never see any making out at baseball games - straight, gay, or bi. All I ever see are people talking on cell phones, and (thank the lord) attractive young women leaving and returning to their seats every inning.

The Giants used to have "family-friendly" sections where no alcohol is allowed. Maybe the Mariners should designate a couple of sections as official snogging zones.

Posted by never met a dyke I didn't like | June 6, 2008 9:42 AM

Yeah, we should totally buy tickets have a kiss-in! That'll show them! Corporations hate when people give them money for their product!

Posted by Hunter | June 7, 2008 12:45 PM

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