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Wednesday, June 4, 2008


posted by on June 4 at 16:01 PM

That’s the day Hillary Clinton will officially drop out, according to ABC News.

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i say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by skye | June 4, 2008 4:12 PM

So... what exactly is the point of the delay?

Posted by Greg | June 4, 2008 4:14 PM

Gee, this sounds really familiar, as if we'd somehow heard it all before...

Posted by gfish | June 4, 2008 4:15 PM

It's somewhat ominous that the article said "Friday," but didn't mention which date, month or year.


OMFG, it's not over!!!1111!!!!

Posted by Original Andrew | June 4, 2008 4:16 PM

really? why friday? why alwasy stretch for one more week, day, minute.

Posted by Jiberish | June 4, 2008 4:17 PM

Thank god that bitch is finally dropping out and making room for the uppity negro. Looking at you, ECB.

Posted by Banna | June 4, 2008 4:20 PM

I won't believe it until Obama brings us her broomstick.

Ooooh! Misogynous!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | June 4, 2008 4:20 PM

It seems like this has happened millions of times. Major news source says Clinton is sure to drop out. All signs point to it. Then..

"She is listening. Nothing set," a senior Clinton adviser told ABC News' Kate Snow.

...she stays in.

Denver! Denver! Denver!

Posted by w7ngman | June 4, 2008 4:26 PM

Too late. Her last chance was Tuesday night. If she really does actually gully drop out, completely endorses Obama, and puts an end to this Vice Presidents nonsense, it would be a good start though.

Posted by Giffy | June 4, 2008 4:30 PM


Posted by Mr Fuzzy | June 4, 2008 4:35 PM

NY Times is now reporting the Friday dropout and endorsement.

Posted by Jay | June 4, 2008 4:35 PM

I'll believe it when I see it and hear it from her own mouth, and not a minute sooner.

Posted by Reverse Polarity | June 4, 2008 4:41 PM

I'm just here to ALIENATE Hillary supporters* by SAYING the word cunt.


*Shakespeare’s Sister

Posted by JC | June 4, 2008 4:55 PM

My god, Hillary is such a DICK.

Was that just sexism or was it a compliment?

Posted by max solomon | June 4, 2008 4:55 PM

I just want to say one thing, and I apologize to all my friends who are Clinton supporters before doing it ...

Nah Nah Nah Nah! Nah Nah Nah Nah! Hey Hey Hey! Goodbye!

Sorry, she had that one coming. I will now resume being gracious and respectful of your feelings, which are understandable, given your loss.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 4, 2008 5:16 PM

as a supporter of senator obama, i gotta say, sometimes i wonder if you clinton bashers are just cornholes or just old man mccain supporters trying to lose votes for senator obama by being corny douchebags with your dime store sexism.

r yall really old man mccain supporters? r you all meth heads? we need her votes. is not like she got whupped like kucinich. most of her voters will jump on to senator obama but it would be nice to get them all and crush old man mccain and get ourselves a mandate.

sometimes i think a lot of sloggers just get on to troll about erica.

Posted by SeMe | June 4, 2008 5:23 PM

First, here's a quarter, buy some caps. Second, if you can spell out all of your other words, drop the "r" crap and spell it out. Text-baby gibberish is for idiots and script kiddies.

Anyhow, as for the Clinton/Obama/McCain thing...Clinton and Obama have so successfully divided the Dem party that I don't believe either has a chance at winning, which is a shame. I'd rather see either of them win over McCain.

Not only that, but McCain is being consciously so close to the center of the right/centrist continuum, and Obama/Clinton are staying close to the center of the left/centrist continuum that it's getting hard to tell them apart. However--IF I vote, and that's up in the air since our system is so hosed that two of us at the same address had different polling places a couple of years ago--I have no idea how my vote would fall. I like to think that under no circumstance would I vote Republican.

What you see in the prelims is far from the final product you get. I do believe McCain will become another George W, but I don't particularly like Obama either.

Posted by Wolf | June 4, 2008 5:37 PM


The first step to Obama getting her votes is getting her do drop the fuck out so her zombie hoard can be freed to vote for someone else.

Oh, and then the B* needs to endorse him.

Posted by Flava Knave | June 4, 2008 5:38 PM

I think she's a dick and a cunt.

Posted by A Non Imus | June 4, 2008 5:43 PM

News reports today say that a U.S. attack on Iran is closer. Obama is talking like McCain about Iran. If such an atrocity happens I predict Obama will try to outdue McCain in jingoistic blather. Our best hope is that a movement arises to undermine the war effort.

Posted by Heather | June 4, 2008 5:45 PM

@ 20

nothing of the sort will arise, as long as the anti-war movement is led by reps of clowns without borders.

obama is not going to attack iran.

@ 18 i agree, but just like senator obama has been conciliatory and classy in his speech, we need to not trash her supporters, we will need those votes in PA, OHIO and FLA.

WA doesnt really matter in the general.

Posted by SeMe | June 4, 2008 5:53 PM

I am sorry that Hillary Clinton will not be our next President.

I will (and actually have been for the last month) enthusiastically support Obama. I will work for him, make calls for him, give him money and perhaps even travel to Florida or Ohio to do GOTV for him.

If he does not win I really will consider how I might move my family to Europe where the economy is strong, there is no theocracy, they will appreciate our over educated selves and allow us to get married (at least in some countries).

But anyway, I felt very happy watching Obama's speech last night and I did get a little teared up thinking about the historic significance of it.

But still, I think Hillary would have been better equipped to pass a Democratic agenda. That is why I supported her instead of Obama. I just believe that she has the tenaciousness to stand in the face of the Ken Starrs and Carl Roves and other evil ass fuckwads out there who will do everything in their power to stop us from accomplishing anything in the next 4 years under the Obama Administration.

I remember when Bill Clinton entered the White House as the youngest president. It was a “handover of the mantel” and he was going to “change the way they did business in Washington”. All these fresh faced idealistic smart policy wonks went in there and they basically got there asses handed to them. Then they learned how to play the game.

I also find ironic that just a few short years ago the worst thing that the Republican’s could call in Democrat running for office was a “Hillary Clinton Democrat” and what that meant was that they were sooooo incredibly liberal that they were out of step with the American Public.

Finally, Michelle Obama would not even be able to be her uppity self without the likes of First Lady Hillary Clinton.

Anyway, I expected to see these types of comments here and I guess I am not surprised. I will still work my heart out for Obama even though I was a Hillary Clinton supporter.

It would just make it easier if you people would not be such utter assholes and be such sore winners.

Posted by Democrat First Hillary Supporter Second | June 4, 2008 6:04 PM


Posted by Zander | June 4, 2008 6:04 PM

Whatever drawbacks antiwar forces may have I remind you that the antiwar movement was 100% correct in the run-up to the war. Those who pushed the war (including The Stranger) have been proven 100% wrong by history. Any justification for an attack on Iran is as suspect as the propanganda that led to the current disaster in Iraq. My deepest hope is that the U.S. military IS stretched out too thin to pursue it's imperial goals.

Posted by Heather | June 4, 2008 6:11 PM

I feel sad, and anxious. I certainly didn't expect to.

Posted by tsm | June 4, 2008 6:11 PM

i never said they were wrong, but the fact that a war more unpopular than the vietnam war cant put millions on the street is clearly a lack of credibility in the leaders' organizing capacity or the ability to organize beyond your comfort level.

Posted by SeMe | June 4, 2008 6:18 PM

The Hillary haters are pathetic, neurotic and childish.

Every time they call HRC a bitch, or a cunt, or a dick, they make it less likely that every one of her supporters and donors will fully, and enthusiastically support Obama with votes, more money, one more volunteer hour, etc.

The attitude of who the fuck needs 49% of the Democratic party is inconsistent with everything Obama stands for.

And: it's fucking stupid, you dimwits.

Learn how to unite. We need all the HRC votes, we need all the I votes, we need all the votes we can get, to win, and then to govern, and fucking finally pass some health legislation, some clin=mate change legislation, and so on.

Not everyone had your pick as their first pick. Not everyone worships him.

Grow up and deal with it.

Posted by PC | June 4, 2008 6:27 PM

What you see in the prelims is far from the final product you get. I do believe McCain will become another George W, but I don't particularly like Obama either.

To clarify:

That also doesn't mean I was a Hillary fan...I had made no decisions yet on that.

And, as if you give a damn, I don't see Obama offering Clinton the VP spot. I did in earlier (way earlier) posts, but not now.

Posted by Wolf | June 4, 2008 6:29 PM

@27 - huh?

My first pick was Gore, my second was Richardson, Obama was my third and final choice.

At least Obama has been - and is - gracious to those he won out over.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 4, 2008 6:56 PM

and more.

All you Obama folks calling HRC names:

Instead of calling HRC dick and cunt and bitch you should be organizing a huge unity bash at the Garage where you invite all the HRC supporters to come on board.

Then we all throw money in the pot for Obama and sign up for volunteering weekends in MT or CO or NM or someplace where it is an actual swing state.

Instead of calling someone bitch, cunt and dick.

Unity. It's not just a word.

Posted by PC | June 4, 2008 7:05 PM

Well, I would, PC@30, but both of Capitol Hill's Hillary supporters have very busy schedules.

Posted by tsm | June 4, 2008 7:16 PM

So, now the word is that she'll concede on Saturday.


Everyone in politics and business knows that if you want to bury a story, if you want to be as quiet as possible about it, you release the news on Saturday.

In other words, Clinton is going to whisper her concession and support of Obama.

Nice. The hits just keep on coming.

Oh...and Hillary supporters? While it's certainly important to win you over and to make you feel comfortable with the democratic is petulant and childish to the take the stance that we must woo you to our side or you'll take your ball and play elsewhere.

I've yet to see any valid criticism of Obama that would make McCain a better candidate for so-called feminists and/or progressives. This game is pathetic, and your hurt feelings are self-manufactured.

Get over it and get on board. There's a lot of work to do. If you can't see that, if you can't see that Hillary has been wasting our time for the past three months, then you need to back off for a while and think things through a bit.

Obama 08. Go team. Kick McCain's ass and let's salvage what's left of our Country.

Posted by Timothy | June 4, 2008 7:57 PM

Everyone needs to chill out. Hillary will concede eventually. There will be party unity. The convention will be a big fat love-in where everyone endorses Obama and all this primary nonsense will be forgotten.

Most people are forgetting the one true long-term effect of the extended primary: Democrats have registered to vote in record numbers. THAT will carry over to the general election, and it will only help Obama against McCain.

Posted by Mahtli69 | June 4, 2008 8:00 PM
Posted by CanDo | June 4, 2008 8:03 PM

PC sez:


Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 4, 2008 8:19 PM

Love this comment from You couldn't make this shit up:

We WON"T STOP. We are crazier than all of them put together.

Posted by banjoboy | June 4, 2008 8:50 PM

Can't we all just get along?

Pissed-off Hillary supporters:

If you call yourself a progressive or liberal, John McCain isn't even an option. Good luck trying to get any traction on issues like reproductive rights or decent health care out of this guy. Voting for McCain out of spite because your candidate didn't win is absolutely ridiculous. Seriously, to read comments on, you'd think Obama was the spawn of the devil or something.

Pissed-off Obama supporters:

Chill out, seriously. Yeah I'm no great Hillary fan but I'd still vote for her over McCain. Completely alienating Hillary supporters by calling her a bitch and a cunt is completely counter productive (and offensive on many levels). At the very least, keep that shit to yourselves and try to be civil.

There are many hurdles to overcome before November and a party divided by spite and pettiness is just one of those. It leaves us completely open to the eventual onslaught of the republican party, who have shown absolutely no qualms about attacking in any and all underhanded ways that they can. The fact is that on almost all the important issues, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton vote the same way. John McCain doesn't.

It's not like you really even have to like each other. Just be civil. There's a much greater good at stake.

Posted by bearseatbeats | June 4, 2008 8:59 PM

Hey, Obamaniacs!

Here's a neat idea!

520 ads that Republicans will run!

Like, for example, at some town forum, they could have somebody ask Obama if he could list, in order, five consecutive military rankings in the Army, starting with PFC (that's private first class). I'm betting he can't do it.

Then, all they gotta do is run that clip and ask, "You want this guy in charge of our military?"

What do you think, Obamaniacs?

Posted by Mr. Astonished | June 4, 2008 9:23 PM

Since there was no blog/slog then, I wonder how Elizabeth Dole, Shirley Chisholm, Barbara Jordan or Eleanor Roosevelt would have been treated by the frothing Hillary detractors? (rhet.) Certainly, two of them were uglier than sin; two of them were probably considered uppity black women; and one of them was so butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth Suthrun oleaginous that you could have used her for personal lubricant.

How about saying "I don't like her" instead all of this uncivil pejorative juvenile crap. Your manners are not in evidence, and they really should be. Bringing this country together is going to take more than bitchy sideswipes to half the Democratic body politic.

Posted by RHETT ORACLE | June 4, 2008 9:31 PM

I don't mind the hard-core Obama fans taking a few victory laps. This was a big week for our future President. He won the nomination fair and square, by inspiring people and by becoming a better, stronger candidate as the campaign went on.

Just recognize the fact that you lose 48% of your audience (OK, here at the SLOG maybe it's more like 20%) when you use the term "bitch" or (sorry, can't even say it) the c-word.

Posted by Big Sven | June 4, 2008 10:25 PM


This just in from her Campaign spam:


On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.


Bye bye, say hi to Gina Gershon for me!

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | June 4, 2008 11:00 PM

so dramatic. taking the very small minority of people who use dirty language to express themselves (on an anonymous blog comment thread no less) as an excuse to claim sexism is rampant throughout obama's campaign or threaten to pack up your toys and go home (or vote republican) is dumb. people say stupid shit, but for chrissakes we're on the same side. ignore the knee jerk, intentionally offensive comments and put your energy to something more productive than getting upset over trolls. go read youtube comments for a few minutes if you think this is bad.

Posted by skye | June 4, 2008 11:39 PM

@ SeME #26--One reason for hope for antiwar forces was the recent one day strike by dock workers to protest the war. On that same day dock workers in Iraq walked out in solidarity with American workers. Back in the 70's hard hats attacked antiwar protesters in New York. The May 1st strike was a genuine antiwar effort and not as the media portrayed a negotiating tactic.

I also see hope in a growing anti military sentiment among young people. More are doubting the need for a strong military. This also makes carrying out future wars more difficult for the government.

Posted by Heather | June 5, 2008 7:08 AM

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