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Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Re: Who’s Of the People Now?

posted by on April 16 at 9:51 AM

Bruce Springsteen endorses Obama; 100 small-town PA mayors endorse Clinton.

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"Following Senator Obama’s remarks dismissing small town America . . ."

Right, that's what he was doing. Dismissing small town America by actually caring enough to tell the truth about their experience. What a load of crap.

Posted by Levislade | April 16, 2008 9:58 AM

Nice to see you embracing right-wing memes wholeheartedly.

Posted by tsm | April 16, 2008 9:58 AM

"....and that is why Hillary Clinton should be the Democrat nominee."

Posted by AMB | April 16, 2008 9:58 AM

I'll go out on a limb and posit that folks in small-town Pennsylvania think the Boss is more of a "regular guy" than their local mayor (who's probably the annoying student-council type in most cases).

Posted by Trey | April 16, 2008 10:03 AM

On another note, at least we won't hear ECB whining about the latest Maureen Dowd column, since MoDo's switched into Obama-trashing mode instead.

Posted by tsm | April 16, 2008 10:05 AM
In the new Post-ABC poll, conducted just as the "bitter" controversy began, half of rural Democrats said they want Clinton to be the party's nominee, compared with 39 percent who prefer Obama. Suburban Democrats are divided about evenly between the two, and Obama has a 24-point advantage among those living in urban areas.

Hint: lots of people live in urban areas.

Posted by w7ngman | April 16, 2008 10:07 AM

It's not the shrill and hysterical* tone of her campaign that I dislike so much, it's the blatant intellectual dishonesty. She seems to subscribe to the GWB school of "saying it makes it true." She really is morphing into McCain/Bush, and it's not pretty.

* I was going to say "strident and constantly outraged", but I thought that ECB might not have enough triggers for apoplexy today and figured I'd help her out.

Posted by also | April 16, 2008 10:08 AM

All those blue-collar folks aren't lining up in droves and spending hundreds of dollars on scalped small-town mayor concert tickets.

The Boss for the win!

Posted by Jeff | April 16, 2008 10:09 AM

Pick a cherry, any cherry.

Posted by annie | April 16, 2008 10:11 AM

Pittsburgh's a small town?

Posted by DOUG. | April 16, 2008 10:17 AM

I love the stench of desperation with my morning coffee

Posted by UNPAID BLOGGER | April 16, 2008 10:19 AM


Posted by kelly | April 16, 2008 10:28 AM

Erica, have you ever *been* to a small town?

Hint: Tacoma does not qualify, nor does, for example, Bothell.

Posted by K | April 16, 2008 10:28 AM

100 small-town mayors are dumbasses. why hitch your wagon to a dead horse?

Posted by max solomon | April 16, 2008 10:29 AM

Let all these small-town dumb shits vote for McCain, just like they voted for W (twice). Then their kids will die or get maimed in Iraq while they lose their pensions and try to hang on to their trailers. Fuck 'em. Seriously. If one sentence from Obama is enough to make them support "More War Less Jobs" McCain this fally then they absolutely deserve to have their children shipped home in body bags as they work graveyard at 7-11 and try to live off dog food. Meanwhile, those of us in prosperous areas can make and consume faggy elitist things like music/art/literature and insulate, insulate, insulate.

Posted by former small towner | April 16, 2008 10:38 AM

Related to #6:

Exactly. Didn't the Stranger do an excellent piece following the 2004 election: its the cities stupid.

Posted by Jason | April 16, 2008 10:54 AM

I believe i read elsewhere that only 16 of those "100 Mayors for Clinton" showed up for the rally. i wasn't there, though.


Posted by diggum | April 16, 2008 11:05 AM

Look, I'm an Obama supporter voting for ANY DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. However, I'm so sick of poo flinging vitriol, from both sides. Knock it off, babies. All of you.

While I appreciate ECB viewpoints from time to time, she exhibits more and more troll like behavior in the most tenacious and unrelenting ways. I presume she enjoys the attention and self centered righteousness created by drawing Obama supporters into the ring, then characterizing them as asinine or mindless when they engage. It’s the worst type of con imaginable. There are plenty of pro Obama intellectuals to engage with in a clear, respectful conversation, which she ignores.

Instead by cherry picking the worst examples of pro Obama fanaticism, and generalizing a few poorly formed opinions as a trend representative of all Obama supporters, she claims victory, proving to herself that the effort was worth the struggle; and she uses their knee jerk reaction as reinforcing evidence of the superiority of her personal opinions. Not only do I find this behavior offensive to me, but offensive to genuine Hillary supporters who think she will be a better president. ECB’s sentiment creates only a forum for the most offensive and asinine commentary which ignores the more important and harder problem—to unite as a party against a common enemy—John McCain.

I am no pacifist myself, but to deliberately fan the flames of division and widen the chasm of understanding between democrats is inane, nonconstructive and harmful in the long run for all democrats.

For this reason, I have created a Yahoo pipe to block all political ECBs post from showing up in my RSS feed by keyword. (It ignores posts in ECB posts which contain Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, politics and a few other choice words). If anyone is interested, please post a comment—I’d be happy to share the script.

Posted by Steve | April 16, 2008 11:14 AM

Press release: 100 Keystone State Mayors Endorse

Erica's interpretation of press release: 100 small-town PA mayors endorse Clinton.

Among those 100 "small-town" mayors:
Mayor Michael Nutter, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County

I must say, I've lived in Philly, and it didn't strike me as a small town. However, I am willing to defer to Erica on matters like this.

P.S. I think DOUG. @10 beat me to this one: Pittsburgh's a small town?

In Erica's defense, I can say, having lived briefly in Pittsburgh, it does at least have a small-town feel.

Posted by cressona | April 16, 2008 11:17 AM
For this reason, I have created a Yahoo pipe to block all political ECBs post from showing up in my RSS feed by keyword. (It ignores posts in ECB posts which contain Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, politics and a few other choice words).

Of course! Yahoo Pipes! You are my new god, dude. I'm going to go make one that ignores all Dan Savage and ECB posts.

Posted by w7ngman | April 16, 2008 11:22 AM

Who's of the people now?

Bruce Springstein. Duh.

Posted by Hernandez | April 16, 2008 11:42 AM

@20 Out of curosity, which posts of Savage's would you be ignoring? All? Anything relating to youth pastors?

Posted by Marty | April 16, 2008 11:53 AM

I'm here in Pittsburgh, and I grew up in a bordering low-income town. I can tell you that Obama did not say anything that was not true (as politically incorrect as it may have been to say it). During a high school civics class (in 1994), I distinctly remember arguing with bigots whether it was ok for blacks and whites to marry. My dad has friends who can't let go of the "n-word", and my aunt throws out food that was served by an African American or Hispanic. There, hate is the language of acceptance. Is it their economic status that makes them bitter and hateful? I couldn't tell you, but it's definitely there. Now, I spend my time in the Pittsburgh communities that are the most culturally diverse. They also happen to be the ones within close proximity to the universities and are the most educated and affluent. In discussing Obama's remarks with friends, we just cannot see what the fuss is about. His remarks were certainly true; so, I cannot hate him for making them.

Posted by Strawberry Limonade | April 16, 2008 12:19 PM

#22, I guess I've enjoyed a Savage post from time to time. I would start by ignoring "every child", "youth pastor", "pitbull", anything to do with priests or catholicism or the bible, and anything to do with national politics.

So, yeah, I guess everything.

Posted by w7ngman | April 16, 2008 12:22 PM

Erica is officially the spokesperson for "yoni-yum".

The other chick with down syndrome dropped out because of kidney failure. Congrats on the promotion Erica. You are truly "special".

Posted by ecce homo | April 16, 2008 12:39 PM

Didn't he also endorse John Kerry a few years back? LOL, BHO is sure to win now!!!

Posted by fluteprof | April 16, 2008 12:42 PM

Didn't he also endorse John Kerry a few years back? LOL, BHO is sure to win now!!!

Posted by fluteprof | April 16, 2008 12:43 PM

Maybe Hillary can pick up John Cougar Mellencamp's endorsement.

Oh yeah, Hill's campaign goes on, long after the chance of winning is gone...

Posted by NapoleonXIV | April 16, 2008 12:48 PM

@18, we need this script now!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | April 16, 2008 3:47 PM

I don't know about you, but most people in Pennsylvania aren't that interested in what the Mayor of their small town thinks about the election actually. He's more likely just some joe anyway.

Posted by Will in Seattle | April 16, 2008 4:41 PM

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