I wonder, wouldn't there be some kind of public health restriction on how a piece like this could be displayed? I mean, part of the piece made from human bodily fluids - isn't that considered slightly hazardous?
If it is real, which I doubt it is, it is fucking awesome. It is a complete nightmare for the anti-choice freaks (who incidentally decided to park themselves in from of Roosevelt High School last week with all their pictures of dead babies.) Maybe they'll all go to Yale now and leave my kid's school alone.
I too, think it is a hoax. 1: Most women don't just become pregnant on the first try and so she would need a steady supply of donor sperm which requires very special handling to remain viable which leads to...2: She states the sperm donors are screened for STDs which means they must know what she is doing which begs the question: How many men would lightly allow their own child to be aborted for art? 3: A very early abortion or miscarriage is pretty indistiguishable form a heavy period, so there is nothing to film but the passage of a small clot, which could be easily faked. 4: RU 486 is not handed out like morning after pills without a prescription. No physician would knowingly involve him or her self with this kind of act.
I imagine this was the offspring of a drunken night where after much moaning about how yale wasn't taking said artist seriously, they had a eureka moment. and a friend in a hollywood fx shop.
@17. question #4: She could've easily planned this out a few months ahead and picked up RU 486 a few different times through different health care providers then stocked up on them.
@23: This is the second blog I've seen this story on today, and I haven't clicked on the link yet. This is either a hoax, in which case, shame on whoever is reporting the story, or it's for real, in which case, shame on her. Either way, I really don't care all that much.
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Fifty-Two-Eighty |
April 17, 2008 12:44 PM
This article has an obvious and strong bias ("dangerous" RU486, "killing her own babies", etc). This puts the credibility of the entire article in question, and clearly isn't unbiased journalism. It is an interesting and inflammatory claim, but there is only one side of this story being told, and from a clear bias.
Why the Stranger is paying any attention to it at all, or linking to it, escapes me.
Posted by
Reverse Polarity |
April 17, 2008 12:49 PM
Reminds me of the artist who supposedly recently allowed a dog to starve to death in a gallery...which was a hoax, the dog lived. Lotd of people sure got upset about it though...I did, until I found that it was a hoax.
And no, I'm not saying dogs & "babies"/fetuses are the same thing.
@38 I wouldn't call it a crime against humanity, but most certainly a cry for attention ... or something. I'm seriously surprised a man would trust her with her sperm. What if she decided that she was well ... going to keep the child?
But then again, maybe in this twisted politcal environment, abortion rights have become a use it or loose it thing.
Then again, I don't think she was was using abortion drugs, I think she was using "herbal" remedies which are supposedly worse and well .... what the chinese have been using for hundreds of years.
Funny, in China they have more of an issue with unwed parents than they have with abortions.
I guess the whole point is up to the individual to decide what is more important, quality or quantity of life. But that's just politics, I wouldn't call it "art"
@14: pro-lifers love hanging out outside roosevelt h.s. i went there for my freshman year, and one time they were surrounded by a mob of angry teenagers and beaten with their own giant fetus signs. the security guards did not seem to mind. it was hysterically funny, and i think of it often.
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Damn...
I like art, and I like political statements, but...
Damn...
how derivative.... She should stop using Short Bus as her fountain of ideas for her performance art/artistic media
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She said she wasn't concerned about the medical effect of the dangerous abortion drug on her body, even though it has killed 13 women worldwide
Oh, boy.
I bet this is a hoax.
@5: and it's a pretty biased source/article. I'm with you.
New Lede:
YALE STUDENT SAYS "PAY ATTENTION TO ME"
Eww...
I wonder, wouldn't there be some kind of public health restriction on how a piece like this could be displayed? I mean, part of the piece made from human bodily fluids - isn't that considered slightly hazardous?
Yeah, I don't believe in this. There's no way she got herself pregnant that many times and then had miscarriages with no complications.
@7: haha!
Incidentally, I hear they're looking for real journalists at ABC. You should go for it.
reminds me of this. though serrano at least had a point ready. I wonder if this girl had a method to her madness.
Snooze. This is about as intriguing as the teenage boys that put Icy Hot on their balls and post it to YouTube.
This version of the story says she used herbs, not ru486.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24513
If it is real, which I doubt it is, it is fucking awesome. It is a complete nightmare for the anti-choice freaks (who incidentally decided to park themselves in from of Roosevelt High School last week with all their pictures of dead babies.) Maybe they'll all go to Yale now and leave my kid's school alone.
Nasty.
@8 Only if you are planning on coming into physical contact with the work.
I too, think it is a hoax. 1: Most women don't just become pregnant on the first try and so she would need a steady supply of donor sperm which requires very special handling to remain viable which leads to...2: She states the sperm donors are screened for STDs which means they must know what she is doing which begs the question: How many men would lightly allow their own child to be aborted for art? 3: A very early abortion or miscarriage is pretty indistiguishable form a heavy period, so there is nothing to film but the passage of a small clot, which could be easily faked. 4: RU 486 is not handed out like morning after pills without a prescription. No physician would knowingly involve him or her self with this kind of act.
Can we at least link to semi-responsible sources of information? Lifenews.com does not qualify.
I imagine this was the offspring of a drunken night where after much moaning about how yale wasn't taking said artist seriously, they had a eureka moment. and a friend in a hollywood fx shop.
@17. question #4: She could've easily planned this out a few months ahead and picked up RU 486 a few different times through different health care providers then stocked up on them.
reminds me of this.
Hero.
Anybody else just outright not going to click on this?
if she'd used Damien Hirst's sperm we'd be looking at the next Tracey Emin.
Can the pro-life community HONESTLY say they want this woman to procreate?
23: I wish I hadn't. Not because it is clearly a hoax, but because this "LifeNews" website will get a record # of hits. No one wants that.
wait til the right wing noise machine gets a hold of this one
So long as she's not harvesting them for stem cells, it's fair game.
@27, this IS the right wing noise machine. Did you look at the source?
@6, link please :)
@23,
Yes, once I saw it was LifeNews, I decided not to give them more page views.
No adult male would EVER consent to this. Considering what happens if she would crack and decide to keep the child, leaving male vulnerable etc. etc.
@23: This is the second blog I've seen this story on today, and I haven't clicked on the link yet. This is either a hoax, in which case, shame on whoever is reporting the story, or it's for real, in which case, shame on her. Either way, I really don't care all that much.
This article has an obvious and strong bias ("dangerous" RU486, "killing her own babies", etc). This puts the credibility of the entire article in question, and clearly isn't unbiased journalism. It is an interesting and inflammatory claim, but there is only one side of this story being told, and from a clear bias.
Why the Stranger is paying any attention to it at all, or linking to it, escapes me.
Reminds me of the artist who supposedly recently allowed a dog to starve to death in a gallery...which was a hoax, the dog lived. Lotd of people sure got upset about it though...I did, until I found that it was a hoax.
And no, I'm not saying dogs & "babies"/fetuses are the same thing.
Yawn.
I hear Erica is on board to purchase the first prints off the line.
This defines modern pathetic feminism.
Here's a link to the Yale paper:
http://yaledailynews.com/story.html
Someone should have discussed this with her, and hopefully stopped her. Did she have a faculty advisor who approved this?
I’m pro-choice but after having read the article I feel like this should be a prosecutable offense.
There are so many people (LGBT, single, infertile) who would love to be parents but can’t. Meanwhile, this woman creates and destroys life as “art.”
I think this is sophomoric, immature, and a crime against humanity.
@38 I wouldn't call it a crime against humanity, but most certainly a cry for attention ... or something. I'm seriously surprised a man would trust her with her sperm. What if she decided that she was well ... going to keep the child?
But then again, maybe in this twisted politcal environment, abortion rights have become a use it or loose it thing.
Then again, I don't think she was was using abortion drugs, I think she was using "herbal" remedies which are supposedly worse and well .... what the chinese have been using for hundreds of years.
Funny, in China they have more of an issue with unwed parents than they have with abortions.
I guess the whole point is up to the individual to decide what is more important, quality or quantity of life. But that's just politics, I wouldn't call it "art"
@14: pro-lifers love hanging out outside roosevelt h.s. i went there for my freshman year, and one time they were surrounded by a mob of angry teenagers and beaten with their own giant fetus signs. the security guards did not seem to mind. it was hysterically funny, and i think of it often.
Am I the only one who noticed that the article quotes their own editor
I'm envisioning a Jackson-Pollocky looking thing.
That smells.
Disgusting.
@34 -- The artist who supposedly starved the dog-- where did you find out about it being a hoax?
I don't know if I believe it or not. Lifenews.com is obviously crap journalism, but Yaledailynews.com? I have a harder time arguing that source.
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