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Saturday, March 15, 2008

Wright Brings Obama Down. In a Good Way.

posted by on March 15 at 10:35 AM

The whole Obama/Wright story makes me like Obama more.

While Obama is obviously bullshitting when he acts as if he’s surprised by Rev. Wright’s statements, I actually like that Obama goes to a church with an incendiary, kinda trite black minister.

Ha! Wright’s “chickens home to roost” line about 9/11 is directly lifted from Malcolm X talking about JFK’s assassination, right? It doesn’t get any more amateur-hour than that from a firebrand wannabe. But The fact that Obama has a goof ball minister like that just makes Obama more normal. About time.

Meanwhile, Obama’s performance on Olbermann about the whole flap was particularly well played.

Although, before I get to that, I must say, the typically dogged Olbermann was a total pussy. Watch the first Q&A in particular. Obama doesn’t answer the question (did Wright resign or did Obama ask him to step down?), and Olbermann doesn’t persist.

Having said that, Obama’s explanation about Rev. Wright is perfect. Obama subtly tells mainstream America to fuck off (!) by paying respect to Wright’s ’60s POV, but at the exact same time, Obama uses Wright’s outdated and silly POV to bring this whole thing back to his central campaign theme: It’s time to move on from the old polarizing battles of the baby boom years and so, vote Obama.

Well done. Even genius. Obama uses a bad story coming out of his campaign corner as more evidence that you should vote for him.

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Olbermann is always a pussy. He can be good, but he's a hell of a windbag at times too.

Whatever happened to normal religion? When did it all get so...religious? How come everybody's so shouty and intolerant these days? Where did all the bland Episcopalians go? The social greet-your-neighbors kind; that's the only kind of religion that makes sense to me.

Posted by Fnarf | March 15, 2008 10:41 AM

I support Obama. And while Wright is crazy as hell, he spoke some truths. This country isn't ready to deal with it. Realistically, he cannot win. This week was a boon for Hillary. She'll get the nom. And McCain will be the next Pres.

Posted by Tony | March 15, 2008 10:42 AM

"Obama subtly tells mainstream America to fuck off (!)"

Wow, that's a good basis for uniting America and winning swing voters in MN IA WI OH FL CO.

"Hope, unity, change, and btw, fuck off!"

Cool. I can be a lefty in an ultra left zip code, and be for hope and unity and getting republican votes, and ALSO tell mainstream America to fuck off!

A dream candidate!

Posted by unPC | March 15, 2008 10:43 AM

Dear Obamaniacs,

It's over for your guy.

It's a sunny day, go to that little cafe where you like to sit, take your laptop, and Wi-Fi away about . . .

let's see . . .

1) After 20 years of a close relationship with the pastor, this was the first Obama heard such vile remarks.

2) That those who dare criticize Obama and his preacher simply don't understand the "black experience," even though 99-plus percent of African-American preachers this weekend won't be spewing such bile to their congregations.

3)That . . . well, you know the drill.

Go for it!

But you know the truth.

It's over for your guy.

Suddenly he remembers getting more money from his Chicago pal.

The preacher.

Michelle's "proud" statement that was misconstrued, but wasn't.

You see, general elections are not held on Capitol Hill, but the U. S. of A.

Posted by Mr. Astonished | March 15, 2008 10:54 AM

Josh, I agree with your reasoning (and that eventually getting Obama down from the Pedestal is helpful)... but do you think the rest of the electorate is that sophisticated about this situation? The mass of people who (if you trust the Ohio returns) RE-elected someone as patently moronic as Dubbya?

I do however think that Obama's calm in the midst of any storm might just remind (and soothe) Scarified Middle Americans of his smooth resolve in a crisis, contrasted with a shrill opponent who SCREAMS "SHAME ON YOU" over a silly campaign mailer--so long as he avoids the overly-superior posture that made Gore looks so aloof and out of touch in 2000.

@2-- I doubt the Wright kerfuffle is going to erase Obama's THREE leads--in pledged delegates, in popular votes, and in contests won? (the last no longer possible as he has won 30).

There is over a month until the next primary vote, and HOPEfully enough time to clean this up.

Posted by Andy Niable | March 15, 2008 10:59 AM

And let's not forget tgat the Rezko saga has yet to even get warmed up. There will be much more to come on that front, including Obama (most likely) being called to testify. Yep, it's over alright. Have a nice day.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | March 15, 2008 11:00 AM

Why do you people hate Obama so much? He never says anything nasty about HRC.
Is it that he is winning?
Is it that he is black?

Posted by Scott Dow | March 15, 2008 11:07 AM

Even if it's not good in the swing-states, I think it's a good thing that a guy like Wright has Obama's ear. I usually have the image that any sort of conspiracy (or similarly controversial) theory thrown towards a mainstream candidate is met with derision and dismissed outright. I haven't heard any indication that Obama stands and walks out of church any time he hears something he doesn't like, and that is encouraging to me.

Besides, there are lots of pissed off Black people in this country, and it's completely understandable given our history. While this anger doesn't play well in milky-white suburuban America, I think there were lots of nodding heads in Wright's audience.

Posted by Mahtli69 | March 15, 2008 11:09 AM

@6, there will probably be less to see in this Rezko saga than the smoking guns of McCain's Keating 5 scandal.

Posted by neo-realist | March 15, 2008 11:11 AM

Whats crazy is because Obama was on such a pedastal this and the Rezko saga will seem much, much more than it really is.

Compared to the shit the Clintons have rolled in the last thirty years this is nothing, but we didn't expect "better" from them. Bill could get caught giving a hooker a dirty sanchez and Hillary using the word "fag" and it probably wouldn't hurt their ratings by more than 5 points. Spin, spin, spin.

Posted by JJ | March 15, 2008 11:11 AM

Jebus, Mssr. Feit! You read like a Michelle Malkin caricature of "the left".

Posted by umvue | March 15, 2008 11:18 AM

Uh, the Rezko scandal is going to get just as much dirt on Clinton as it is on Obama.

Posted by Fnarf | March 15, 2008 11:20 AM

#10: Clinton saying "fag" would probably give her a small boost with her base with the party: blue-collar voters and over 65 voters. She gets the Archie Bunker Democrats overwhelmingly.

Posted by Jason | March 15, 2008 11:23 AM

Yeah, "Vote for Obama - He Really Isn't Any Worse Than Anyone Else!" Catchy campaign slogan there.

Posted by Elvis | March 15, 2008 11:25 AM

And people are freaked out about this? Wright spoke the truth and frankly it was good to hear.

But we are not talking about the pardons that Hillary's bothers paid for from President Clinton, we are not talking about her biography where she said that the biggest crisis she dealt with was Monica and she responded by gasping for air and crying (THAT makes me feel good if a dirty bomb gets released at 3 am in lower Manhattan) and there is the ties to the Carslile group that her husband has as well as the Saudi money donated for his library and the issue of why she has not released her tax return from 2006.

And all people can come up with is $250K on Rezko and a black preacher who claims (shockingly) the black people have been screwed over in this nation and that just MAYBE our foriegn policy in the middle east could have been the cause of 9-11?

It is called grasping for straws my friends!

Posted by Andrew | March 15, 2008 11:32 AM

Obama was a blank slate for many people. These Wright videos are fatal. They will be used to define him.

Obama will not be president.
He will not be the nominee.
He will not be Clinton's VP candidate.

If by some freak of chance he becomes the nominee, I will vote for him in November, but he will never be president.

Obama was delusional when he said the Clinton "machine" plays as tough as the Republicans. Hello? Remember 2000? Al Gore is the untruthful one. 2004. John Kerry isn't a war hero. They have a whole TV network, Fox News.

He has not been vetted. He ran against Alan Keyes for the Senate. This is why I voted for Clinton.

Posted by chicagogaydude | March 15, 2008 11:43 AM

I think that, as usual, most sloggers have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to religion.

Every religion has nutcases. Every religion teaches stuff that most of the followers ignore. For all their supposed devotion to the pope, most Catholics support birth control and think priests should marry.

I don't think this will hurt him. The people that wouldn't vote for him anyway will still make a stink, but the rational people out there will know exactly what he meant.

Posted by catalina vel-duray | March 15, 2008 11:58 AM

Disavowing a sentence or two is one thing, but 20 years? That crazy shit about deserving 911 is going to finish Obama.

Posted by crazycatguy | March 15, 2008 12:03 PM

I think this will give supes who want to support Clinton an excuse for doing so.

This isn't a killing blow to the Obama campaign, but it's certainly not good news, no matter what what Seattle progressives say.

What pisses me off is that Wright's views have been reported in a few media outlets for *months*. I feel like if the major media hadn't been sucking on Obama's crank for the last six months, this would have been vetted *long* ago, and wouldn't be such a big issue now. I think the argument is that the media has not done Obama a favor with their fawning...

Posted by Big Sven | March 15, 2008 12:08 PM

Obama has been acceptable to many voters as long as he seems like one of the nice blacks -- you know, a Will Smith type. This all makes him blacker than black. I think it's slipping away from him, the whole thing.

That said, I can't imagine, Hillary fan or no, being happy about this outcome. It's a disgusting episode.

Posted by Andy James | March 15, 2008 12:10 PM


Exactly. And that's what I meant by "it makes him normal." I think lots of people can identify with not really wanting their Sunday preacher's words being broadcast publicly.

Posted by Josh Feit | March 15, 2008 12:10 PM

Just to expand on one point I made @16. Clinton has already hinted about making Obama VP. She will be asked at some point about that statement in light of these videos and she will have to say in so many words, no, otherwise this will take her down too. It's that bad. Obama's people will howl about it but she has no choice if Democrats stand a chance of winning in November.

Posted by chicagogaydude | March 15, 2008 12:20 PM

"Disavowing a sentence or two is one thing, but 20 years? That crazy shit about deserving 911 is going to finish Obama."

How is that any different than the extreme right wing preachers and the crap coming out of their mouths. Not to mention, our current President is often associated with these whack nuts.

A few examples from Jerry Falwell:

“(re: 9/11 attacks) "...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."”

“The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" --on the 9/11 attacks

Posted by tr00fteller | March 15, 2008 12:24 PM

Interesting spin, Josh, but... no. You're like the mother who never sees any fault in her son.

Posted by Andy | March 15, 2008 12:31 PM

You're suprised that Olbermann is a pussy when it comes to Dems? Come on, I like the guys show but his constant Republican and O'Reily bashing while the spineless Dems get a pass can grow real old.

Is MN a swing state? I kinda thought it was almost as blue as Washington state.

Posted by Nat Cur Vag | March 15, 2008 12:33 PM

I don't think this is going to be such a big deal either. Although sometimes I worry about the same as Andy James @20, in person I've seen very little racism surrounding Obama in states like Arizona ans Wyoming.

We all expected that they'd throw whatever they could at him: all of Chicago, an outspoken black pastor, a shady fundraiser. It might hurt him in Pennsylvania, but nationally he's okay. John McCain is a (fairly new) Baptist who is being endorsed by Catholic-haters. He was a member of the Keating 5. He is outclassed by Obama historically, though I expect they'll be fairly nice in person. If Obama still pulls off the nomination, we're far from done.

I don't think his innate appeal is what the media says it is. Some people use words like pedestal and saint, but I think it's more about being logical about the law and problem-solving rather than spouting talking-points. Obama's legal training, time teaching the law, and time working in low-income communities help him here.

Posted by V | March 15, 2008 12:39 PM

Josh - couldn't you just have put up the lyrics of a song? Let's see you are happy that Obama has a minister that speaks to the truth but also you are glad that Obama is dismissing the old 60s rhetoric.

Is there anything bigger than jumping the shark? Cause you just did it.

Video of Barrack and Wright together maybe even with Barrack quotes on screen and then the preacher saying God damn America not God bless America and then the steady voice of reason asking if this man, as they focus in on Barrack , is the man to make judgements for us.

And this is nothing like Falwell saying something because Falwell wasn't W's home minister. He didn't marry W. He didn't baptize W's kids. He didn't suggest the title of W's book.

And Rezko bought 1/4 of the compound for the Obama's benefit and sold the rt they needed . People are still talking about a $56K limited partnership lost investment from the 80's but the Rezko deal is nothing?

What do you all think will be found in income tax tax records? As I understand it the Clinton campaign has said it will release all records by April 15.

Posted by McG | March 15, 2008 12:54 PM

i think this will help Obama because at least it will enforce that he's not muslim to all the people who care about crap like that.

Posted by konstantConsumer | March 15, 2008 1:00 PM

Interesting spin @24, but not accurate: With the exception of the few times I've slogged some fact checks on the Hillary campaign (for example: ... and the couple of Slogs I've done recognizing Obama's strengths as a candidate... I'm a huge Clinton fan. I'm not a big O fan.

So, you're quickie take on my post today way misses the mark.

Posted by Josh Feit | March 15, 2008 1:15 PM

I've heard the revs statements coming out of the mouths of white people too. Other lefty "Christians". All the while they believe in the white man's religion. The same religion that has been used as an excuse for heinous rascist and sexist abuse and enslavement. Hypocrisy on the left is every bit as ugly as it is on the right. As for Obama, I thought you people here would be finding Hillary behind this. Some sneaky way to besmirch their messiah. He'll never be President folks, even though he may make a good one. And racists come in all colors.

Posted by Vince | March 15, 2008 1:37 PM

Obama just sat down for over an hour and a half with the Chicago Tribune and put the Rezko thing to bed. Here's a link to their editorial: After covering him closely for 12 years and hounding him for 16 months about full disclosure on Rezko, they are completely satisfied that there isn't damn thing wrong. From the editorial:

"When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him. Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict... Barack Obama now has spoken about his ties to Tony Rezko in uncommon detail. That's a standard for candor by which other presidential candidates facing serious inquiries now can be judged."

So, it's clear that Rezko's donations to his campaign in NO WAY bought Obama's political influence. The Tribune has been tough on Obama and they completely confirm his story.

RE: Wright - Obama handled it really well. Quick full exposure on all the major networks, no shiftyness, straight up condemnation of the offending sentiments while not rejecting his friendship with Wright. He has let the air out of the story with a straight-forward answer delivered in a even-tempered manner.

And, to up the ante, he also did full disclosure on all his finances as well as his earmarks - going out of his way to back up his own stated philosophy of transparence.

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I think when the dust settles and people have time to digest all this, the story will be this was a good week for Obama - proof of his personal integrity, his willingness to be transparent politically, and his ability to stay cool in the middle of hot button issues. I'll step out even further to say that this week will end up with the net effect of firming up his chances for the nomination. No scandals, cool under pressure, quick responses, able to shrug off the attacks without being greasy -- as a candidate, what's not to like?

Posted by Paul Moment | March 15, 2008 2:14 PM

@1 You don't miss the bland Fnarf. Bland is boring and you are anything but boring.

You're missing another time when Christians were not so power hungry and condemning and did what they were supposed to, which is be loving.

Posted by mj | March 15, 2008 2:16 PM

When, exactly, was this mj?

I seem to have missed it.

Bless Washington State and it's 25% secular population.

Posted by Max Bell | March 15, 2008 2:28 PM

All that old rhetoric from the early civil rights movement is like space cookie/crazy talk speak in 2008.

Schools are wonderful racial mixtures, hiring is much fairer - and a whole generation of folk don't relate at all to all the past sins - black and white people have been fucking each other a lot in the past twenty years.

In my family there are three mixed marriages, no one gives a shit, several gay couples, no one gives a shit, several crazy old people, no one gives a shit ... all that old crap out of a crazy black church will not play.

One thing to keep track of is Mc Cains feeble old age. He sounds terrible on camera. Slow, halting, half brain dead ---- either Hillary or Obama will blow him off any stage. He will have to take his shirt off and show scars to work the crowd.

Posted by Lynn Ward | March 15, 2008 2:29 PM

when your family is typical, lynn, then you can start that talk. in case you haven't left whatever little colorblind island you inhabit, i'll let you know what 98% of the country isn't like that.

Posted by konstantConsumer | March 15, 2008 3:14 PM

@ 33 As soon as I posted that I thought I might as well have painted a bulls eye on myself and handed slog the darts : )

It was dumb!

I have a pet peeve about Christians in politics and I don't think it matters what they are doing in church, screaming, yelling whatever ya like as long as they are not bullying the world into believing like they do.

Also Fnarf saying he missed the boring struck me as funny so I went on a side track.
I am a Christian but not a bully, I hope.

I'm outta here because I'm really setting myself up.... Who cares though? I don't!
It's nice and sunny and I'm going out to go have fun :)

Posted by mj | March 15, 2008 3:38 PM

With a little time to think about this, I've begun to believe this isn't terrible. If Obama can use this as a platform to articulate a version of religion and patriotism that A) sounds reasonable to most people and B) has some integrity to it, then it might be a net plus for him. I can imagine Obama focusing on his church and its emphasis on good works, responsibility, etc.

I have always understood that all groups -- ethnic groups, professions, religions -- say different things within their group than they do to the outside world. Doctors use gallows humor when no one else is listening. The religious rant against godlessness. Leftists imagine terrible fates about Dick Cheney. And yes, black people have an acid view of the white man's world.

Yet we all do this because we assume there is some functional middle space in which we can meet in compromise and work together. If Obama can outline that space and move us towards it, he'll do well.

Posted by Andy James | March 15, 2008 3:44 PM

Thanks to Dodd, Richardson, Biden and Edwards suppporters (and a few ex-Clinton folks) who have seen the light Iowa delivered 5-7 more delegates to Obama today, Woo-hoo.

Posted by Mike in Iowa | March 15, 2008 5:30 PM

I think it's hilarious Wright is considered radical at all? I mean, really, his rhetoric actually scares people? Man, it doesn't take much to terrify white people.

Posted by Jay | March 15, 2008 6:07 PM

And quite frankly I'm tired of all this faux piety and sanctimoniousness. There needs to be more crazy preachers saying "fuck America." Part of being American is being able to say "fuck America." All this hand wringing about the guy's rhetoric is, at best, self-righteous posturing; at its worst, it's cynical politicking aimed squarely at the hearts and minds of scared middle-class whites who probably say far worse things than Wright in private.

Posted by Jay | March 15, 2008 6:11 PM
So, it's clear that Rezko's donations to his campaign in NO WAY bought Obama's political influence. The Tribune has been tough on Obama and they completely confirm his story.

From -

During the summer of 2005, though, Obama did give a prestigious internship in his Washington office to Aramanda’s son, who Rezko had recommended.

The Trib has not been that tough on him

Posted by McG | March 15, 2008 6:27 PM

Oh my God! Obama gave a kid an internship! We must convene a special prosecutor immediately!

After all, there might be blowjobs involved!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | March 15, 2008 7:21 PM

We'll call it SomeonesKidWhoRezkoRecommendedGate!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | March 15, 2008 7:23 PM

McG, I recall reading last week that an editor said that lots of reporters were trying to dig dirt on Obama and coming up with "pretty thin gruel" or something to that effect. Doing a supporter a favor by putting their son in an *internship*? Stop the presses! I sure hope you're serving that gruel up with some raisins or something, 'cause that's pretty weak.

Posted by Paul Moment | March 15, 2008 7:31 PM

Nappy/Paul - read the story. The guy wasn't a supporter of any pol until he gave $10,000 to Obama. This wasn't a job as a page - internships apparently are a big deal. I'm sure Aramanda's son was the best qualified.

Posted by McG | March 15, 2008 7:54 PM

OMG, he gave someone's kid an internship. That's so much worse than pardoning terrorists to get votes.

Posted by Mike of Renton | March 15, 2008 8:53 PM

Was Obama even in the room when Wright was speaking? You can tell who supports Hillary by the comments made. Someone Obama is associated with saying something that, while largely truthful, may be offensive to some people is not a scandal in any sense. It just proves how deep the media has to dig to find any kind of actual controversy surrounding Obama. I doubt Deibold will allow Obama to become president, but the majority of America will vote for him in the Presidential election. Americans are less racist than folks think.

Posted by toasterhedgehog | March 15, 2008 9:28 PM

All of the other co-defendants in the Rezko case are big Clinton donors or big Republican donors. The case doesn't have anything to do with Obama; it's about a bunch of crooks who tried to buy their way into EVERYBODY. That's the reason you haven't seen McCain trying to make hay out of it, and why Clinton is only going there out of total back-against-the-wall desperation.

In the meantime, people are starting to wonder if there's something in those Clinton tax returns that she doesn't want us to see.

If you want to evaluate the candidates on the basis of donation sleaze, the Clintons are going to put everyone behind them.

Posted by Fnarf | March 15, 2008 9:52 PM

Mike - Who really IS in Iowa -

To the point - SEX - any and all kinds among the tall green and wonderful corn rows. Tell us ALL.

When I was 16 I spend a few week on an uncles farm who had about 50 acres of sweet corn, same destined not for pigs but fresh harvested for a cannery/freezing operation.

I did, as in blow jobs and much ass play, my very hunky and manly 14 year old cousin four or five times a day for two weeks. By far the hottest sexual adventure in my life so far. And chewing the raw corn right off the ears in the field was great as it matured.

Tell us Mike. Iowa tales?

Posted by TEN YEARS AGO | March 15, 2008 10:09 PM

I also have a question for the Clinton supporters:

We all know you think Obama's going down for this. Do you think he should?

Posted by Andy James | March 15, 2008 10:17 PM

Wonder why anyone thought Obama could be from Chicago and there not be some sleaze?

Even in Seattle the cops get lap dances, and strip clubs try to buy rezoning.

This so called problem sounds like little shit.

But, it is not over by far. I am enjoying the whole thing as I get my papers in order to flee. I will vote Dem. but if Mc Cain wins, I will go somewhere that will not be nuked in the coming exchange with Russia.

Posted by Angel | March 15, 2008 10:21 PM

so my mom grew up with someone who ended up being the business executive at the state attorney's office in my town. when i graduated from undergrad, my mom called her friend and i got a job. now that i'm in law school, i'm going to get a good internship that will lead to a job. should someone call the washington post about this injustice???

Posted by konstantConsumer | March 16, 2008 12:45 AM

My first summer job in college was due to my father asking someone if they'd hire me.

Sure, I was qualified, but it is what it is.

Wow, Josh, you've really flipped.

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 16, 2008 1:38 AM

OK folks you are right. The Rezko case will not impact Obama any more than any other politician because lots of pols got money from him and his gang. And having a mom call a childhood friend to help get a kid a job is the same as giving a federal senator a $10,000 donation, the first money to a pol ever, and get an intership in D.C. a few months later. And the calling over and over for tax records reminds me of the Rose law records which when found had NOTHING in them. And Whitewater investigated for years turned up what crime? The point is that the Clintons were not charged with anything after a $50 million investigation but you good Democrats all bring it up along with most of the Republican talkig points years later proves that the Republican smearing works. I'm waiting for Fnarf to blame one of the Clintons for the Rezko trial.

Marc Rich seems to be the worst thing HE did and even there most of the money given before the pardon was to the Democratic party.

You people are correct that Obama's first and biggest contributor that let people freeze in Obama's district while continuing to contribute, that Obama said he would fequently meet with to talk, that had Obama write letters for public money for low cost housing that has pretty much all fallen apart and while under court order to pay back debts was able to find a way to buy in his wife's name an empty lot next to Obama's dream house to aid in closing and then sold off 1/6 of it at cost and then sold the rest to one of those first time Obama contributors, is no more connected to Obama than to Clinton or McCain.

Take a look at natioinal polling at realclearpolitics - and the smearing hasn't started on Obama.

Gore/Obama seems to be the best chance.

Posted by McG | March 16, 2008 9:10 AM

Getting yourself pastored by a radical hater shows bad judgment. Lying about it when asked by the media shows dishonesty. Request for presidency denied.


Posted by poetryman69 | March 16, 2008 4:37 PM

Canny Mc Cain is going to run on the war.

New polling shows less anger at the war.

The theory that voters would be so anti war that the R's would be chased out of DC might be an old play book theory.

Who will be the best Commander in Chief is the mantra. Sure as hell helps war hero John.

Posted by John | March 16, 2008 4:55 PM

we are a "country and a culture controlled by rich white people."

-rev. wright

omigod, how could he dare say THAT?

Posted by ellarosa | March 16, 2008 8:59 PM

Andy James @ 50 -

question for the Clinton supporters... We all know you think Obama's going down for this. Do you think he should?

Well I specifically said @19 that

This isn't a killing blow to the Obama campaign

but no, he shouldn't go down for this. He should go down for the fact that he's a state legislator who won a non-election against a retard, immediately started running for president, and has gotten sloppy knobbers from the press ever since. Vs a candidate who won *two* genuinely contested and nationally watched raced despite fifteen years of Republican smear campaigns financed by the tax payer.

Does this answer your question?

Posted by Big Sven | March 16, 2008 9:52 PM

"The US of KKKA" - Jeremiah Wright, Obama "Spiritual Advisor"

Such a message of unity!

I mean c'mon, Josh, there is nothing Obama could do that would change your mind on at all. You probably faint when he comes to town. Asking nutty leftists such as yourself about this is like asking Goebbels to comment on how damaging the holocaust made Hitler look.

Real America, outside the confines of the nutroots will see it differently. Get ready to cry some tears in November. Oh and you might want to beat the rush and get your Canadian citizenship today.

Posted by Baluga | March 16, 2008 11:10 PM

By bullshitting, you mean lying. Caught right the f**k out. Big time.

Posted by Alex | March 17, 2008 6:33 AM

Josh -

Given that Malcolm X did not invent the proverb about chickens coming home to roost, I think it inappropriate to dismiss what Rev. Wright is trying to say here. It is not amateur hour to link US foreign policy to the attacks of 9/11, given that Osama bin Laden has said as much.

Rev. Wright, may in the heat of his passionate speech get some facts wrong (Romans were not at the time specifically Italian), the point the man is trying to make was very clear to his audience.

Posted by Stella | March 17, 2008 10:47 AM

wow, you really would drink his pee pee wouldn't you? if this were hillary, you would be hunting her down. thanks for keeping it "real". carry on with the pee pee drinking.

Posted by Emily | March 17, 2008 10:47 AM

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