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Thursday, March 20, 2008

A Pastor Problem for Clinton, Too?

posted by on March 20 at 16:25 PM

Barbara Ehrenreich says yes:

There’s a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that “through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as “The “Fellowship,” also known as The Family. But it won’t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet’s shocking exposť The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

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Middle America won't understand or care. (i.e., no story here.)

Posted by Move on | March 20, 2008 4:28 PM
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I read the Mother Jones thing a month ago. It's a hack job piece full of innuendo from "close Clinton family friends." There's no smoking gun.

Posted by Big Sven | March 20, 2008 4:36 PM
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You can't all call yourselves The Family. You've got your Children of God, your Mansons, your ELF terrorists, and now Hillary's church. It's just arrogant to think your family is The Family. Unless they all really are the same family...?

Posted by elenchos | March 20, 2008 4:40 PM
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"Prayer Warriors"? Where have I heard THAT phrase before?

Posted by Fnarf | March 20, 2008 4:42 PM
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And Bush goes to Bohemian Grove as well, no one gives a fawk!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

Posted by tr00fteller | March 20, 2008 4:47 PM
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Oh for frack's sake. I want an atheist for president, PLEASE. No more Goddy types in the oval office!

Posted by arduous | March 20, 2008 4:48 PM
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@6 too bad americans hate us more than the muslims

Posted by vooodooo84 | March 20, 2008 4:50 PM
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Jeff Sharlet, incidentally is the guy who pointed out to everyone that something major was up with Ted Haggard long before the sex scandal went down.

He's one of the nation's best religion journalists.

Posted by Kevin Erickson | March 20, 2008 5:39 PM
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There's still no story here. So she's a Bible-thumper? Big whoop. If anything, that will endear her to the unwashed masses.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | March 20, 2008 5:44 PM
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It's all about this one from The Omega Man. Best "the family" ever!

Posted by Jeff | March 20, 2008 5:50 PM
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Holy Shit!!!!

"Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao, the Family's current leader declares, "We work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.""

"According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance."

Posted by wf | March 20, 2008 7:15 PM
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Posted by viva | March 20, 2008 7:21 PM
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Not only has this already been well publicized, it's pretty much a non-issue. So they have a Christian bible study group in Congress...did you ever have any doubt that membership would be slanted in favor of Republicans?

Posted by Hernandez | March 20, 2008 7:23 PM
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I'm a little startled by the rampant scorn certain Clinton supporters have shown today towards the people they expect to reverse Obama's lead in the popular vote. I've seen several references to "unwashed masses" and "Joe Lunchpail" when referencing blue collar democrats. It'd be one thing if we were talking about the fundamentalist homophobes that make up the current base of the Republican party, but talking that way about a significant portion of one's own base seems a little, well, Republican. I'm not trying to start a "our supporters are better than your supporters" argument. Just...think about how you're talking about your own people.

Posted by Beguine | March 20, 2008 7:28 PM
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Oh, there are plenty of Republican and independent "unwashed masses" out there, Beguine. I wasn't necessarily referring to our beloved fellow Democrats.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | March 20, 2008 9:49 PM
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Hmmm... I wonder why the Stranger has not published the latest poll numbers showing that Obama is now tanking. Were you really that naive to think this wouldn't happen?

Congratulations, Blue Bloods, you have successfully f***ed the party again. Voters in 2 of the most important swings states have been disenfranchised. Dems have wasted millions because the blue bloods made a a well-orchestrated play for the primary with no regard for the general election. It's 1972 all over agin.

McGovern, Dukakis, Bradley, Dean, now Obama

Johnson, Carter, Clinton

Anyone else seeing a pattern?

Posted by mydquin | March 20, 2008 10:36 PM
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Obama Leads McCain 48% to 43% In Latest CBS News Poll
http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/obama-leads-mccain-48-to-43-in-latest-cbs-news-poll/242/

You mean the newest poll where he beats McCain by seven points.

As in seven point lead.

Pretty nice pattern.

Posted by kravitz | March 20, 2008 11:55 PM
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I hate to burst your bubble, but that CBS poll was conducted from March 15 to March 18 BEFORE the Rev Wright fiasco became widely publicized.

The most recent Gallup poll has Hillary at 48% and Obama at 43% AND both are losing to McCain.

Posted by mydquin | March 21, 2008 1:10 AM
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clinton attending an all-female private bible study might endear he to more people. seriously. this will make her seem like "one of us" to the religious crowd -- a crowd that largely participates in gender-segregated small group private bible studies.

Posted by infrequent | March 21, 2008 9:21 AM

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