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Wednesday, February 13, 2008

The Morning News

posted by on February 13 at 8:00 AM

On Trial: Former Evergreen student accused of helping torch UW horticultural center.

On Track?: Japan says it will be able to meet its Kyoto goals.

Winning Big: Obama and McCain in the “Potomac primaries.”

Passed: Surveillance bill makes it through Senate.

Still Included: Retroactive immunity for telecoms that spied for Bush.

Um, Really?: FEMA to stick tornado victims in formaldehyde-contaminated Katrina trailers.

In Guantanamo: US may carry out executions there over international protests.

McCain: “Insulting” to ask how long we ought to stay in Iraq.

“Culture of Life”: Women fight contraception ban in the Phillipines.

Incidentally: Thirty-nine percent of men in the Phillipines admit beating their wives. Does it surprise you that divorce is also illegal?

Eating Insects: The latest eco-trend.

Recipe of the Day: Buttery Salsify Puree with Horseradish (Recipe and photo via Apartment Therapy)


2 tablespoons lemon juice
2 pounds black or white salsify
1 small clove garlic
2 1/2 tablespoons butter
3/4 cup milk
1/2 tablespoon horseradish, or to taste
salt, to taste

Fill a large bowl with cold water, and add the lemon juice to create an acidulated bath. Peel the salsify, and cut it into 2 inch lengths, slipping the pieces into the bath as you work.

Add the drained salsify and the clove of garlic to a saucepan of cool water, and bring to a boil. Cook for 8-10 minutes or until tender. Drain, and puree with remaining ingredients. Garnish with parsley, or other mild herbs. If you like, this recipe can easily become a soup by increasing the amount of milk until the desired texture is reached.

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So Japan met the Koyoto goals? Did their economy totally destroy itself in the process? Are they all out of work?

Posted by Andrew | February 13, 2008 8:16 AM
Thirty-nine percent of men in the Phillipines admit beating their wives.


Does it surprise you that divorce is also illegal?


Posted by Mr. Poe | February 13, 2008 8:18 AM

My question is, as always, after you've reported some truly horrible news on what women endure in far away Saudi Arabia or the Philippines, doesn't it make you feel kind of stupid to be up in arms over a silly ad from American Apparel or Axe?

Like, "Oh, you were beaten and jailed for helping girls avoid mutilation? Well, I paintballed a billboard with models in sexy tights!"

Posted by elenchos | February 13, 2008 8:27 AM

She wasn't "up in arms" over the axe ad...

Posted by Mr. Poe | February 13, 2008 8:29 AM

Ah, but ere those Fillipino women wearing trousers? Tha would dxplain everything.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 13, 2008 8:33 AM

Ok, fine. She was not up in arms. She was baited into reacting in a stodgy and humorless way.

Posted by elenchos | February 13, 2008 8:34 AM

I think an arm was up there - not as much as when she discovered the existence of breast-shaped edibles, but it was there.

Posted by tsm | February 13, 2008 8:36 AM

Ah, but were those Fillipino women wearing trousers? That would explain everything. (Typos corrected; sorry, I'm not awake yet.)

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 13, 2008 8:37 AM

Actually, the article says, "... a survey of men who admitted having physically harmed women. Thirty-nine percent had committed it against their wives..."

There's no statement in the article (that I could see) regarding the overall percentage of the Filipino male population who are abusive.

Posted by Big Adventure Steve | February 13, 2008 8:37 AM

Well, okay, but I will blindly defend ECB for eternity. This is a decision I have recently made, and it is good.

Posted by Mr. Poe | February 13, 2008 8:41 AM

Meanwhile, on the electability front:

the electoral college votes of the states Obama has won versus those of states Hillary Clinton has won shows.....

Clinton is still ahead, 205-176!

Se that NYT Democratic map then use 2008 interactive map to figure the nos.

And Obamatons: just rounding out the facts. Yes he is ahead. He's the frontrunner. Mainly due to being ahead in delegates.

Gloat at will, with Will, but in any event....enjoy this phase of his success.

Posted by unPC | February 13, 2008 8:44 AM

"conducted a survey of men who admitted having physically harmed women. Thirty-nine percent had committed it against their wives; 15 percent were violent toward their girlfriends; 4 percent beat their unmarried partners. The rest of the attacks against women were committed by men unknown to them."

As Steve points out, that's not the conclusion you drew. Also, that last sentence makes no sense; the writer of the article has changed the subject and object around to make it sound more common than it is. It should presumably read "committed against women unknown to them", but it still sheds zero light on the question of how common spousal abuse is in the Philippines. I would say this harms the advocacy she's trying to do.

Posted by Fnarf | February 13, 2008 8:47 AM

You're an idiot, unPC.

Posted by Fnarf | February 13, 2008 8:52 AM

i dont know UNPC you can get all mathematical about it, but unless senator clinton wins texas by 70% and PA by 65% you can put a fork in her. Those wins by senator Obama were massive. Winsconsin is in the bag for him. I think at this point she is playing for pride.

One thing thats starting to turn latinos off. she fires pati solis her latino campaign manager, eventhough she is winning with latinos and women? Hello!

she will win texas, but the rest is pretty much done. it was one hell of a race and she certainly deserves props, but is time to get behind obama. specially if mccain convinces condi.

Posted by SeMe | February 13, 2008 8:54 AM

Not a word on Slog about the recent U District robberies near frat row, and the UWPD meeting tonight about it at the HUB?

Not that I think SPD or UWPD is going to do much about it, but I just realized I haven't seen it discussed much here.

Posted by Gomez | February 13, 2008 8:56 AM

What is this "U District" you speak of?

Posted by Fnarf | February 13, 2008 8:59 AM

unPC is a pathetic, whiny troll. Why don't you go support McCain or Huckabee. I'm sure you like them better than Obama.

Posted by Realist | February 13, 2008 9:04 AM

I've heard it's somewhere north, or maybe west, of Capitol Hill. That's all I know.

Posted by cdc | February 13, 2008 9:04 AM

The American Apparel billboard on Roosevelt that kept getting paintballed was in the U District. How much attention does one neighborhood deserve?

I mean if there were like gangs of men attacking people with bricks, that would be "news" but a robbery or two?

Posted by elenchos | February 13, 2008 9:08 AM


oh i WANT mccain to pick condi. please tie that anchor around your waist, grampa.

Posted by max solomon | February 13, 2008 9:09 AM

@ 20

the loons have already put up a website max. but she can be scary and it could bring that loony right wing base he is lacking.

Posted by SeMe | February 13, 2008 9:15 AM

The article says that 39% OF MEN WHO ADMITTED ABUSING A WOMAN were married to that woman. It does NOT say that 39% of ALL men abuse their wives.

I didn't know divorce was illegal and that sucks, but lying about the statistics doesn't help anything.

Posted by hm | February 13, 2008 9:36 AM

unPC, you're Hillary Clinton's own personal Fred Barnes. It's very cute.

Posted by tsm | February 13, 2008 9:39 AM

19. I hope that was in joking reference to the party that got attacked by the thugs with bricks. Given the audience here, I'm actually not sure if you're in jest.

Posted by Gomez | February 13, 2008 9:42 AM

And ECB - geez, way to screw up the details again, as Fnarf@12 points out,

Posted by tsm | February 13, 2008 9:43 AM

ECB, it would have been so much more amusing if the recipe posted beneath that final news item had utilized bugs as an ingredient. :-)

Posted by Mickymse | February 13, 2008 9:47 AM

I get an e-mail from UW every time one of these violent robberies or assaults happen in the U District. Here's the latest:

On Saturday, February 9, 2008, at approximately 2:00 a.m., four UW students were assaulted by unknown suspects in the 4700 block of 17th Ave NE, Seattle. The suspects had been asked to leave a party earlier in the evening at another location, according to the victims. Later in the evening the suspects went looking for the victims and located them at a residence in the 4700 block of 17th NE. The incident moved to the street where the victims were assaulted. There were as many as ten suspects, some of whom were armed with bricks. Two of the victims sustained injuries requiring medical treatment at the UW Medical Center. The suspects fled the area prior to the arrival of police. The suspect group was made up of both Caucasian and African American males; all described as having muscular builds.

Posted by Gomez | February 13, 2008 9:47 AM

Ah, football players.

Posted by Fnarf | February 13, 2008 9:52 AM

Oh... Crap. That is news. Somebody send a reporter to this "U District" they tell of.

Posted by elenchos | February 13, 2008 9:54 AM

condi is well liked among conservatives. there was a collective sigh of disappointment when she announced she did not intend to run for office -- similar to the sigh heard when gore made a similar statement.

Posted by infrequent | February 13, 2008 10:03 AM

Insects are decidedly more delicious than microwaved babies.

Posted by Andy | February 13, 2008 10:13 AM

My mistake on the phillipines numbers. The source I got it from read it wrong, and I didn't double-check. Still, forced pregnancy and no divorce is bad enough, right?

Posted by ECB | February 13, 2008 10:14 AM

A little poison in his supper solves the abuse problem nicely. Just sayin'

Posted by Cat in Chicago | February 13, 2008 10:20 AM

I have said many, many times that Obama is a great candidate and a great leader and I am glad he is running and I want him on the ticket.
I often try to base my posts on facts and arguments and I am sorry that often, SOME Obama supporters (not all) react to negative date and argument by resorting to ad hominem attacks and dismissive if not bitter and venomous arguments. (To me, the accusation of being GOP = pure venom.)

It's sad, but more important it also shows that often they have no rebuttal of the facts or arguments presented.

It was the Obama camp that brought up no. of votes hey what about no. of votes didn't Obama win more votes on supertuesday and the fact was no he did not.

Then they brought up no. of states with some kind of weird combination of total popular vote and no of states so I looked at the electoral college "game" to provide perspective and it's pretty interesting that Clinton today with her 13 states beats Obama with his 22 states.

You can just go ahead and file that data and guess what?
It doesn't have to change your mind to be for Obama.

No single piece of data is conclusive.

But this is relevant data as it (a) destorys the argument that somehow racking up lots of teeny tiny states matters for electability. Reall, ND and ID = jack shit. Be real
And (b) it shows the Clinton won and Obama failed to win in the really big states or most of them.

So, if you are an Obama fan you might want to just keep these things in mind. There are tons of reasons to be for Obama. And to think he's more electable. But to immediately diss and attack anyone who points out contrary data -- that's what I call proto fascist and Joe McCarthyite.

Because it is.

Meanwhile if you have read my posts you would know I am not a Republican because I have said we need single payer, we need representation for DC and Puerto Rico, in part because that would help the Democrats and all of us nationwide, we need action on the economy the way Clinton did in the 1990s ie to help those at the bottom half and raise their incomes, and we need a forieng policy where I WISH Obama would spell out his idea that we've been goaded by fearmongering EVEN MORE because our long term response to this actual terror threat requires that people get it that they don't hate us and we are prone to fear mongering.
And on Obama my consistent poitn has been about electability. Why would I focus on that
Needless to say, these are not very Republican ideas.

So no. 17: Try to learn to have a civil disagreement without swiping the tar bruch like Joe McCarthy. (Explanation for the oblivious: JM did it by calling people commie, @17 does it by calling people GOP. The underlying principle is "tar brush" not left or right here).

And in the meantime, STFU.

Posted by unPC | February 13, 2008 10:23 AM

UnPC, until you learn to edit yourself, and acquire a little bit of English usage, and a whole lot of basic logic, your screeds are always going to come off as crazy and stupid.

Your particular argument in this case is nonsensical; you're looking at electoral college votes, but they DON'T MATTER in a primary. It's a stupid point to make. What matters is delegates.

You also refuse to grasp the obvious, which is that if Obama loses a state to Clinton, or vice versa, it does not mean that he or she will lose it in November.

The one who needs to BEE REALL is you, my friend. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Posted by Fnarf | February 13, 2008 10:31 AM

Maybe we should let him be Fnarf, he just wants to feel like Hillary is somehow winning. However tortured his mothodology may be...

"No single piece of data is conclusive"

Except, um, the delegate count.

Fnarf already said this, unPC, but the only way your electoral college "game" argument even makes sense is if you assume that Obama would not be able to carry all of those big states that went to Hillary.

Now, if Hillary takes huge wins in big states that traditionally go red in the general, then your argument might have some legs. This *might* illustrate that Hillary has a better chance of winning those states. But Hillary's win in your electoral college matchup is largely driven by California and New York, states that are almost certainly going blue anyway.

Simply put, Obama has more blowout wins in traditional red states than Hillary does. Not that that even *matters*, I'm just trying to play into your argument a bit.

I know you're just looking for cute new ways to measure who is winning, but those people in the Obama camp that you're satirizing... they are spinmeisters and hacks, and I don't listen to them anymore than I am listening to you ramble on about the electoral college.

What I find most interesting is the Virginia results, which was an open primary. Voters could vote for any candidate from any party. Obama cleaned up, and Hillary even came in second above McCain. Granted, it was a primary, and I'm guessing a lot of aloof Republicans aren't going to get mobilized until the candidates shake out, but I think this shows huge potential for either Obama *or* Clinton (but especially Obama) to carry this traditionally red state in November. Also, if this had been a runoff election, Obama and Clinton would be the two candidates in the general. Go blue!

Posted by w7ngman | February 13, 2008 11:02 AM

"McCain: 'Insulting' to ask how long we ought to stay in Iraq."

I've seen this attitude from McCain a lot lately, like that campaign rally where some dude asked about what he was going to do about illegal immigrants, and he gave some line about how he wasn't going to dignify the question with a response.

Does this guy just sometimes forget he's running for president, or what?


Posted by w7ngman | February 13, 2008 11:06 AM

@32 My mistake on the phillipines numbers. The source I got it from read it wrong, and I didn't double-check. Still, forced pregnancy and no divorce is bad enough, right?

eh, people make mistakes... but are you joking? as a reporter, getting some of the story right is not good enough. so, sure, it is bad bad bad in the phillipines. bad enough, as you put it.

but not bad enough that it is okay to distort the truth -- even by accident.

Posted by infrequent | February 13, 2008 11:23 AM

In other Morning News, a huge explosion in Vancouver destroyed a Starbucks, Taco del Mar and a bunch of other businesses on Broadway, about six blocks from my house. Witnesses reported somebody fleeing the scene.

Posted by Gabriel | February 13, 2008 11:57 AM

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