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Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Another Expression I Hate

posted by on February 26 at 9:56 AM

… “and what not.”

That’s a telltale sign.

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but a sign of what? i guess i'm curious cos i do use that phrase on occasion

Posted by Jiberish | February 26, 2008 9:58 AM

I say "and what not" all the freakin' time.

Posted by Mr. Poe | February 26, 2008 9:59 AM


Posted by contextboi | February 26, 2008 10:01 AM

I hate it when people end a sentence with "so..."
Don't have a problem with "what not" tho. I am curious what it's a sign of.

Posted by Henrietta | February 26, 2008 10:05 AM

I'm becoming partial to saying "and all that jazz". It's much more fun to say and positive sounding than "and what not". Just dont overuse it, then it gets annoying.

Posted by catnextdoor | February 26, 2008 10:06 AM

Perhaps it's a sign it's slow news day.

Posted by Henrietta | February 26, 2008 10:07 AM

I like "and whatnot." It's certainly better than ending a sentence with "and such as," anyway.

Posted by Levislade | February 26, 2008 10:07 AM

It always gets to me when people end sentences with "or...?"

It's very passive- like they're inviting you to finish their sentence and/or contradict them.

Posted by UNPAID BLOGGER | February 26, 2008 10:11 AM

I was going to criticize this thread for being judgemental (on slog?), but then I thought of a phrase I can't stand: "It is what it is." Drives me bonkers. Such a hopeless phrase.

Posted by jhell | February 26, 2008 10:12 AM

Thanks for the nostalgic reminder of my old Sunday-school teacher whom we kids nicknamed "Mrs. Whatnot." Haven't thought about her in years.

I prefer to end my sentences with "...and shit."

Posted by Erik | February 26, 2008 10:13 AM

I like to end all my sentences with "Hey, everybody!" and then do jazz hands.

Posted by Fnarf | February 26, 2008 10:15 AM

I try to keep a relatively even mix of "and whatnot," "and shit," and the oft-underused "and so on."

Posted by Hernandez | February 26, 2008 10:18 AM

I prefer "and what-have-you" or "and such-like."

Posted by flamingbanjo | February 26, 2008 10:20 AM

What about "and such?"

Posted by Gitai | February 26, 2008 10:24 AM

@11, how odd -- I end all my sentences with "Hot tamales!" and then I pump my fist like I'm shaking dice.

Yes, boys, I'm single.

Posted by haunted leg | February 26, 2008 10:29 AM

Fnarf @11:

I think you'd be better off ending all your sentences with "HOWAAYAA!", but keep the jazz hands, as in the following video, starting at 3:19:

Posted by Chompers | February 26, 2008 10:42 AM


Posted by Fnarf | February 26, 2008 10:56 AM

I've been railing against "and what not" for months, and has anyone come to aid me in support of my tirade? NO!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | February 26, 2008 11:15 AM

My first thought ran to Molly Ringwald... "Life is not what-not, and that's none of your business."

Posted by monkey | February 26, 2008 11:18 AM

I hate smug douche bags who think they are the expression police

Posted by meathead | February 26, 2008 11:34 AM

Did I say something wrong? My bad.

Posted by treacle | February 26, 2008 11:35 AM


Instead of these little passive posts about expressions you hate: here's an idea.

POST A LIST OF BANNED PHRASES IN YOUR IDEAL WORLD. Then explain why the phrase should be banned.

It would be far more fun and entertaining, and far less annoying.

I'm asking honestly, Josh. Not trying to be mean here. Seriously, do it.

Posted by mackro mackro | February 26, 2008 11:49 AM

The reason I'm being ALL CAPS about this idea is that I think people should know *where* these phrases come from.

"And what not", "My bad", "for all intents and purposes", "After all is said and done", etc.

How did these phrases come to be? It would be awesome to actually explore and find out.

Posted by mackro mackro | February 26, 2008 11:52 AM

I hate it when someone takes a position, then says "Duh":

Anyway, yeah yeah, Iím against the rules changes too. Duh. Itís bad.

In fact it's a cue to me that the opposite position is better.

Posted by JMR | February 26, 2008 11:58 AM

Irregardless needs to go, of course.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | February 26, 2008 11:59 AM

With that being said, it is what it is.

Posted by Joe in DE | February 26, 2008 12:13 PM

I end most of my sentences with a period. But that's because nobody wants to talk to me, and I'm stuck commenting on blogs.

The only telltale sign I see here is that of a man with a blog amplifying his curmudgeonly annoyances. Homer Simpson's dad but who already works at the paper and doesn't have to hope they run his goofy letter to the editor.

Posted by Mark at YVR | February 26, 2008 12:32 PM

I first encountered "and what not" when I moved to eastern Washington to go to school. I blamed the them until I moved back and it had taken over here too. Eesh. I am totally guilty of starting my sentences with "so" though. :P :P

My biggest problem with language is that I'll pick up a phrase and use it mockingly or ironically and then eventually it becomes part of my vernacular much to my chagrin. See, "my bad" "hella" "wicked" "lol" etc. Sigh.

Posted by Nay | February 26, 2008 12:57 PM

I was impressed by the little kid who kept it clean by saying something was "hecka cool".

Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale | February 26, 2008 1:25 PM

Here's mine: people who constantly use the phrase "real quick," i.e. "I just gotta check my e-mail real quick." Drives me up the fucking wall.

Posted by Jason Josephes | February 26, 2008 1:29 PM


Posted by NapoleonXIV | February 26, 2008 2:22 PM

A sign that you're a judgmental douchebag?

You can't even spell it correctly.

Posted by w7ngman | February 26, 2008 4:50 PM

howz about "this, that, and the other thing" on the list of to be offed phrases?

Posted by derek | February 26, 2008 4:50 PM

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