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Tuesday, August 7, 2007


posted by on August 7 at 10:14 AM

Who’s writing the headlines over at the PI? Eminent victorians?

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It's not the ruffians who are the problem. It's those darn hooligans!

Seriously though, he's right. That area sucks.

Posted by monkey | August 7, 2007 10:26 AM

Now if they'll just address the rapscallions and ne'er-do-wells.

Posted by Gabriel | August 7, 2007 10:27 AM

What's next: baiting animals, careless driving of cattle, unloading coal between prohibited hours, dogs loose or mad, Exercising horses to annoyance of persons,
Exposing goods for sale in parks, Obscene singing, Persons Driving without reins, and making slides in streets?

Posted by kinaidos | August 7, 2007 10:36 AM

#2 is that you Mr. Burns?

Posted by monkey | August 7, 2007 10:38 AM

I think it must be Mr. Burns.

But yeah, I was waiting (for a long, long time) for a bus in that area after the Block Party (and, apparently, right after the Torchlight Parade - who knew?), and the roving bands of teenage ne'er-do-wells and/or hooligans (probably a miscreant or two in there as well) was freakin' me out. There was a strong police presence, though, which actually just served to freak me out more. Go figger.

Posted by Levislade | August 7, 2007 10:40 AM

Ruffians or not, that block sucks, and every time I walk by there it seems worse.

Posted by rb | August 7, 2007 10:55 AM

old timey talk is the best.

Posted by kerri harrop | August 7, 2007 10:58 AM

Super Stars!

Posted by Mr. Poe | August 7, 2007 11:11 AM

I don't understand why they just don't have more cops walking the beat down there. A little deterrence goes a long way, imo. And I couldn't care less about the drug dealing, but the random intimidation of passers-by makes the place a shitty place to be, imo.

Posted by Tiffany | August 7, 2007 11:15 AM

I take it that if it were on Slog, the headline would have been "Fucking ruffians chasing folks away from downtown."

Posted by David | August 7, 2007 11:23 AM

So many options...

Too Scared to Shop

Third & Yikes

Thug Terror: Caught on Tape!

Posted by Seth | August 7, 2007 11:28 AM

See, I saw a cop car on that block almost every day now, and think "Well, at least they're addressing the problem", then I hear the cop is just out to catch jaywalkers.

This is purely coincidence, but the problems starting happening right when that area of the building put all that dark tarp over the bus stop on northbound 3rd ave for construction purposes. I'm wondering if removing the tarp will reverse the effect. My first inclination is to say "pffft. of course not.", but there is a lot of psychology involved in darker, hidden areas where people can get away with more vs. more open, brighter areas. Again, probably just coincidence.. but who knows. I look forward to a Mudedeopsy on this.

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | August 7, 2007 11:28 AM

I figured they used "ruffians", because "fucking assholes" doesn't fly at the PI. It is pretty sketchy down there, though catching buses along 2nd isn't any better, really. I generally suck it up and go wait in the U District for the 271 back to the Eastside rather than deal with downtown.

Posted by Jessica | August 7, 2007 11:29 AM

As for the person too scared to walk on 3rd and pine and opt for a Bellevue day...


Downtown Bellevue is starting to resemble downtown Spokane now... all of the reasons to want to go to downtown Bellevue (outside getting a paycheck) are either now replicated in Seattle, or are gone. I've walked there recently, for Comp USA's liquidation sale. It was fucking creepy, much more so than the loud, obnoxious kids on 3rd and Pine.

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | August 7, 2007 11:32 AM

its white PI code for Young Black Teenagers.

thugs is too race-specific.

Posted by maxsolomon | August 7, 2007 11:34 AM

In any case, I look forward to a headline on the P-I saying "Begorrah! Knaves To Replenish Ye Viaduct. Huzzah!"

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | August 7, 2007 11:38 AM

Mendacity! Mendacity!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | August 7, 2007 11:49 AM

Cops in Seattle are fucking useless. Last week I was waiting for the 16 at that corner and was near a crazy homeless guy screaming at a commuter for not acknowledging his presence, while a Century Square security guard and an SPD officer, both about 20 feet away, ignored the situation.

Where are Batman and Charles Bronson when you need them?

Posted by elswinger | August 7, 2007 11:52 AM

the cops torment commuters who jaywalk or drivers who accidentally turn onto 3rd ave cuz they have $ to fund spd. it's a lot more expensive and a lot more work to arrest someone dealing or trying to roll somebody. it's all driven by the dolla! holla!

Posted by brad | August 7, 2007 12:19 PM

Maybe the cops are afraid if they do something they'll be called racists.

Posted by elswinger | August 7, 2007 12:34 PM

#15 beat me to it. Somebody would have taken "thugs" the wrong way. It always happens in this uptight city.

Some ruffians are thugs, and some thugs are black. But they're not all black. The Mexicans, for instance.

Posted by Jason Josephes | August 7, 2007 12:36 PM

"fuckers" would have been far more neutral.

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | August 7, 2007 1:02 PM

oh here we go again, racism on slog. Nothing new.

Seattlest has joined the ranks as well I see.

Cops are called racist because some are in fact, racist! *GASP*

Posted by hunh? | August 7, 2007 1:18 PM

"Guttersnipe" would have been a better choice.

Posted by Sean | August 7, 2007 1:35 PM

Jamieson has called them thugs in previous columns.

Posted by Parker | August 7, 2007 1:36 PM

#23 Show me the roving bands of hillbillies threatening people downtown and I'll let you call me racist.

Posted by elswinger | August 7, 2007 1:42 PM

@ 15 & @ 21 - Read the article. First line:
"They are speaking out, offering stories about the thugs who haunt Third and Pine."

Matter of fact, the word "thug" crops up 3 times total. And if my eyesight does not deceive me, the author of the article is a black man.

Posted by OddlyEnough | August 7, 2007 2:36 PM

Fuck 'em, glad to see them go to Bellevue on 'Bellevue Day' that's where they belong.

"we're not visiting some of our favourite stores"

Try waiting for the bus downtown sometime bitch, fuck your inconvenience.

Posted by K X One | August 7, 2007 3:07 PM

@26 The roving bands of hillbillies are actually spread throughout the touristy areas of the city, constantly asking me how the parking pay stations work.

Posted by Gitai | August 7, 2007 3:19 PM

I think those are tourists.

Posted by elswinger | August 7, 2007 4:09 PM

@26 show me the roving bands or ruffians or blacks and I'll call you a hillbilly. Have you personally been attacked or threatened by roving bands of thugs? You've got to be kidding me. I would love some fucking facts or a photo at least. Maybe I'm just blind but I'm NOT seeing this shit! All I'm seeing is paranoid white blog posters who have not been downtown in 2 years spouting their uninformed 2 cents.

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