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Friday, August 24, 2007

Far From Now

posted by on August 24 at 14:20 PM

Yes, Portland is feeling it
Portland.jpg…But it’s still a very long way from the day it can play with us (Seattle and Vancouver) the skyline game.

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Haha ... Portland always reminds me of one of those annoying younger siblings. Always shouting "Mommy, look what I can do, Mommy, Mommy, look what I can do..." over and over again.

Posted by chris | August 24, 2007 3:00 PM

Portland is always ten years behind Seattle. I moved to Seattle from Boston to work as a software project manager and I loved the condo selection in Seattle. Portland has a bunch of moldy seventy year old houses. Yuck!

It'll be a century before Portland is as good as Seattle.

Posted by Port-Lame | August 24, 2007 3:15 PM

every city needs to pick on a smaller city to hide the flaws within itsef.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | August 24, 2007 3:42 PM


Except for light rail.

Posted by MHD | August 24, 2007 3:44 PM

Also except for land use regulations.

Posted by cul de sac | August 24, 2007 4:04 PM

Heh, Bellevue. I think New Yorkers would argue that your logic is provincial.

Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale | August 24, 2007 4:07 PM

If tall buildings were a hallmark of livability, Portland would be the lesser of the three cities. But it ain't.

Posted by Grant Cogswell | August 24, 2007 4:08 PM

Charles, your logical fallacy is assuming that PDX has any desire whatsoever to compete against SEA & VAN.

PDX knows better. PDX has no desire to compete. That's why PDX will always kick ass.

Posted by PDX Native | August 24, 2007 4:15 PM


Saying "PDX" a lot does NOT make you, or your city, cool.

Posted by mr. ryan | August 24, 2007 4:17 PM

"PDX" was almost called "Boston". The coin just flipped the wrong way.

(If the myth is true.)

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | August 24, 2007 4:34 PM

I aspire to be a new yorker one day!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | August 24, 2007 4:35 PM

Portland is great! A city with intelligent city planners and a government not in thrall of the fucking developers...

and nude strippers!!

Posted by michael strangeways | August 24, 2007 4:39 PM

Uh, @2 have you been to Portland lately? They are putting Seattle to shame when it comes to condos. Seattle is building some really, really unattractive structures and Portland is pumping out some totally beautiful buildings. The Pearl District is one of the most amazing neighborhoods I have ever seen. I can't wait to see what Portland looks like in 10 years. If Seattle keeps this shit up I'll be down there!

Posted by bradlesb | August 24, 2007 4:48 PM

I used to rag on Portland a lot... but after just two weekends there with my Portland-area-native girlfriend I have to say it seems like an awesome place.

This may sound dorky/scarily-adultish, but it also seems like a nice place to raise a family.

Posted by NW | August 24, 2007 4:55 PM

@13 - you need to stop hanging out on Capitol Hill and get to the other neighborhoods where we have more interesting condos.

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 24, 2007 4:56 PM

It's jut like a Seattle without Microsoft, Boeing, and UW. Just like Seattle is a smaller SF without Silicon Valley and a rapid transit system and a decent nightlife.

Posted by Tiffany | August 24, 2007 5:39 PM

@ 12:

You forgot to mention the booze!

Nude strippers AND booze!

Posted by COMTE | August 24, 2007 6:49 PM

@ 12 and 17

...and cheap steak dinners to go along with the strippers and booze!

Posted by Mr. X | August 24, 2007 6:59 PM

I love PDX

Posted by -B- | August 24, 2007 7:58 PM

I love Seattle and Portland.

Posted by Deacon Seattle | August 24, 2007 9:47 PM

If Portland had a drink spilled on it by some just-don't-care dickthwap, I would not care for that. Not one bit.

Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale | August 24, 2007 10:51 PM

I love both Seattle and Portland and it is true that some insane out-of-towners are paying megabucks for the new condos in the Pearl district in Portland. Well, I am just guessing it is out-of-towners. Who else would buy a studio condo for over $200,000 in Portland with no parking!?! I mean, maybe that would be a steal in NYC, but it is just dumb here. I guess I'm just a country bumpkin though. What do I know?

Posted by Kristin Bell | August 25, 2007 12:45 AM

Admittedly, Portland lacks that self-loathing, defensive, whiny, can't-do attitude that is the only point of civic "pride" in Seattle.

Of course, Portland is just Portland. It's not a city that thinks it compares to New York or San Francisco, when it's really just a depressed Minneapolis, or Des Moines having a nicotine fit.

Posted by boomer in NYC | August 25, 2007 5:26 AM

When I moved here from Baltimore for my job as a software project manager I couldn't believe Seattle's cheap condos in great locations.

I'm sure real estate in Seattle will keep going up like it always has. We have great restaurants, more density every day and a great Jewish community. Seattle rocks.

Posted by Seattle Pride | August 25, 2007 10:49 AM

Portland's ability to build super tall massive monuments to developer ego is limited by the layout of the downtown street grid. The founders laid out blocks that are half the size of Seattle's super blocks. This means more retail on the ground level and perhaps a more humanistic scale.

Posted by tiptoe tommy | August 25, 2007 9:32 PM

Portland will never have a beautiful skyline full of tall and impressive buildings because all the rich who live in the west hills will fight to keep their view of Mt Hood. I once lived in a neighborhood where our neighbors poisoned our tree to get a better view of the narrows bridge. Can you poison a building?

Posted by expdxer | August 26, 2007 9:57 AM

Hahah, I like how Seattle thinks it's important.

Posted by Jay | August 26, 2007 11:21 AM

I love Portland, but I wouldn't want to live here again.

That damned river just makes things difficult.

Posted by Alex-jon | August 26, 2007 12:25 PM

Hahaha, Jay, I like how you think your opinion of Seattle is more important than Seattle.

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