Tuesday, July 3, 2012

Hey Rob: Put Up or Shut Up

Posted by on Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM

So, um, in addition to acknowledging my constitutional and statutory right to attend their press conferences (which they've refused to do), I wouldn't mind if Attorney General Rob McKenna's office stopped slandering me.

During last Thursday's incident, after calls from our lawyer (and my willingness to be arrested) forced him to blink, AGO deputy communications director Dan Sytman warned me not to be disruptive at the press conference, claiming that other reporters had complained about my behavior at other such events. It was a totally fabricated, 100 percent made up lie. In my eight years of blogging and reporting I have never behaved disruptively, inappropriately, or unprofessionally at any press conference or briefing. Ever.

In fact, I rarely even ask questions at press conferences, as I've long since learned that the answers I get in such settings aren't worth the effort.

Yet it's a lie that Solicitor General Maureen Hart repeats by implication in a letter (PDF) to The Stranger's attorney, Jessica L. Goldman:

Yesterday, I provided assurance to you that Mr. Goldstein will be allowed access to press conferences of the Attorney General's Office as a reporter for The Stranger on the same basis as other members of the media. That includes the expectation that Mr. Goldstein will not be disruptive. In this respect, I also assured you that Mr. Goldstein will not be individually cautioned in that respect. I do, however, wish to make it plain that this Office intends to protect its staff and other participants in such conferences from potential harm, and that intends to ensure that its press conferences can be conducted professionally and efficiently.

I understand that Hart is just repeating the lies she's being fed, but honestly, what an utter load of crap. If they're going to continue to attempt to sully my reputation with implied accusations of disruptive behavior, I suggest they put up or shut up. There are always TV cameras and audio recorders running at these events; if I had ever disrupted a press conference, surely there would be footage.

Of course, there isn't. But Hart continues:

I do not see much point in rehashing past events that have led to concern with Mr. Goldstein's participation in press conferences of this Office based upon his prior participation.

It would be a very brief rehashing indeed. To the best of my recollection I have had no prior participation in any press conference at the AG's office. I once attempted to ask a question of McKenna and (gasp!) a followup during the question and answer segment of a media conference call. I presume there's audio of that call as well. (As I remember it I fumbled the question, allowing McKenna to deflect it with ease.) That's the extent of my prior participation.

(Unless you count the half-hour McKenna enjoyed with me on air, March 29, 2007, on 710-KIRO. "I know AG McKenna enjoyed being your guest and we were hoping to join you again," AGO communications director Janelle Guthrie emailed me in sending condolences on the news that KIRO had cancelled my show.)

No, what Hart is referring to, and what McKenna is apparently relying on as the entire basis of his claim that I pose a threat of "disruption" and "harm," is a post I published to HA on March 25, 2010:"Are you mad as hell? Don’t take it anymore." (I suppose they thought my publisher and his attorney would be shocked to learn of my threatening rhetoric, but I'd already forwarded them the post, to which Tim replied: "Not very scary.")

Hart excerpts two paragraphs from the post, attempting to present it as a call for violence, while leaving out these two paragraphs in between that provide the context:

One of the reasons the Teabaggers have received attention far in excess of their actual numbers, is the presumably genuine anger they’re not afraid to express. They openly carry guns, or carry signs promising to use them. They mob congressmen, calling them “niggers” and “faggots”, fax nooses to their offices, and cut the gas lines of congressional relatives. They yell and they scream and they threaten and they disrupt… and they’ve been well rewarded for their efforts.

See, angry outbursts make for a good story, and thus emotion trumps policy almost every time. And that’s why it’s past time for some of us progressives to break with character and show a little genuine anger of our own.

While no doubt intentionally provocative, this was a post primarily critiquing the media for the way they lavished coverage on the violent, angry protests of the right while ignoring the peaceful protests of the left—a meme I have consistently repeated over the years. It wasn't a call to arms by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I specifically wrote that "I don’t particularly want to see any actual violence or property damage." What I suggested was, if the protesters dropping off petitions at McKenna's office wanted to attract a scrap of media coverage, the media demanded that they show some emotion. (An analysis, by the way, that was statistically borne out by the Occupy demonstrations.)

Amazingly, McKenna used that post as grounds for ordering his offices into a "modified lockdown," ironically attracting the media attention the peaceful petitioners would not otherwise have garnered. If McKenna wants to be a pathetic wuss about stuff like this, that's up to him, but his own knee-knocking paranoia isn't legal grounds for denying me my constitutional rights.

I'm not exactly sure where this dispute is going. It's Tim who pays the legal fees, so that decision is ultimately up to him. But if McKenna truly believes I'm as scary and dangerous as he's telling people I am, it's he who better seek the restraining order, because I'm going to continue showing up at his press conferences, and next time, God forbid, I might even ask a question!

 

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Phoebe in Wallingford 1
You say Goldy that you've never disrupted these events, but what about your body language? Sighs, grunts, rolling of the eyes, etc., can itself be disruptive even though you're weren't being verbal.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on July 3, 2012 at 5:57 PM
2
You make it impossible to root for you, Goldy. Insufferable would be too generous of a description.
Posted by karion on July 3, 2012 at 6:04 PM
3
@1

Bullshit.
Posted by seatackled on July 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM
4
Don't tase me, bro!
Posted by tabski on July 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM
5
@1: Yeah, that's lame. Seriously lame.

Consider the Congressdouche who yelled, "You lie!" at President Obama while he was speaking. That guy didn't get kicked out of Congress, am I right?
Posted by MLM on July 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM
6
@2 - It's about fucking time we had journalism that was "insufferable." A weak, pathetic approach to journalism is part of what's gotten us into the mess where politicians can just make up shit and get away with it. It's time someone called them out and made them defend their bullshit.
Posted by Mike in Olympia on July 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM
johnyawl 7
It's obvious from his reaction to Goldie, his sheer terror at being in the same room with him, that Rob McKenna is an anti-semite.

We need to spread this meme.
Posted by johnyawl on July 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Asparagus! 8
I can't believe my tax dollars are being used to pay an attorney to read Goldy's blog archives.
Posted by Asparagus! on July 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Reverse Polarity 9
@1, you're shitting me, right? Goldy should be kicked out of a press conference for an inappropriate eye roll or grunt?

Try harder.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on July 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM
10
These daily updates on your ridiculous feud with McKenna over his press conferences is completely boring. And I totally agree with @2 that I'd actually like to root for you but for the fact that you are completely insufferable. Can you please edit yourself a little? Maybe just one post like this a week would suffice? I am increasingly believing that you have nothing of value to offer the Stranger's readers, and I hope someone up there is listening when I say that. We want someone better.
Posted by YouAreBoring on July 3, 2012 at 7:13 PM
11
Sorry to be a pedant, but if the lawyer wrote it in a letter then they are libeling you, not committing slander. Just sayin'.
Posted by teamcanada on July 3, 2012 at 7:13 PM
Daddy Love 12
I thought that being insufferable was the role of a free press in a democracy. It's funny how wrong you can be.
Posted by Daddy Love on July 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM
13
You are so fucking lame, Goldy. Nice how you failed to mention this gem, which you don't dispute having stated: "I don't particularly want to see an violence or property damage, but I'd love to see the genuine fear of it." A real peaceful protestor, you are. Don't actually assault anyone, just make them think you will. Fuck-tard. The Stranger should fire you just for having said that. You disgust me.
Posted by GoldySucks on July 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM
14
Jessica Goldman is a crappy lawyer.
Posted by GoldyGoldy on July 3, 2012 at 7:41 PM
15
@1
OMG! He rolled his eyes! Ban him! Ban him NOW!!!

Democracy cannot stand if a reporter rolls his eyes!

Our government officials can only work if they are guaranteed that no member of the press will EVER roll his eyes!

And that even made sense to you?
Posted by fairly.unbalanced on July 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Kinison 16
Is it me, or is the only reason Toby has a job with The Stranger, is because he is so far to the left, that he shits carbon credits and that makes everyone else look like moderates by compassion.
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on July 3, 2012 at 7:53 PM
17
Everyone seems to be taking comment #1 seriously; I thought it was meant to be humorous, in sympathy with Goldy.
Posted by Warren Terra on July 3, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Mark in Colorado 18
@1 [every horrible word that could be used to describe a female] I'm so thankful to be gay because of someone like you to remind me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, are you telling me Washington might elect this PIECE OF SHIT to be governor?! I so love Washington, well the western part anyway (except for female shit like @1)!!!!
Posted by Mark in Colorado on July 3, 2012 at 8:18 PM
TVDinner 19
@18: Burn. 1 is dead wrong, but playing the "women suck (if only I'd let 'em, har!)" card makes you lower than sludge at a waste treatment plant.

So burn, you piece of shit. Burn.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on July 3, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Phoebe in Wallingford 20
So many of you are taking my question way out of proportion. I was simply suggesting ways in which McKenna's people got the perception that Goldy was being disruptive in meetings. People shouldn't extrapolate anything else.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on July 3, 2012 at 8:34 PM
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@20

Bullshit. You were not saying that McKenna's people may have gotten that perception. You were suggesting that Goldy was being dishonest in claiming he has never disrupted a press conference.
Posted by seatackled on July 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM
Phoebe in Wallingford 22
@21: No, if you read my it again I ask "... but what about your body language?" I don't blame people who overlook their non-verbal communication and body language and how it impacts them both professionally and socially. We all are guilty of overlooking it at times.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on July 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM
lauramae 23
Journalists as a rule, should be big pains in the ass! They should not be obsequious nincompoops.
Posted by lauramae on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM
24
It sounds like you are on a Nixonian-style enemies list. You must be doing something right.
Posted by delirian on July 3, 2012 at 9:26 PM
GlamB0t 25
What the fuck is wrong with @18?
Posted by GlamB0t on July 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM
OuterCow 26
@25 Not that it okays misogyny, but Phoebe's constant trolling/idiocy can get really fucking annoying.
Posted by OuterCow on July 3, 2012 at 9:35 PM
bedipped 27
There's a similar situation with recalled Senate Pres Russell Pearce in AZ working it's way through the courts. Russell Pearce Sued by Puente's Sal Reza. Of course, Reza got roughed up and detained, what with it being AZ. McKenna and Pearce probably have much in common.

Posted by bedipped on July 3, 2012 at 9:38 PM
COMTE 28
Phoebe, I don't think "disruptive" means what you think it means. Even taking your ridiculously far-fetched examples into account, in order for such "non-verbal communication and body language" to have been the cause of the McKenna camp's complaint, such behavior would have had to create some sort of actual disturbance of the proceedings, either by interrupting or impeding them to a noticeable extent. Perceiving a disruption (which is what you seem to be implying) where nothing has actually been disrupted, doesn't cut it.

And aside from the accusation itself, they've provided exactly zero evidence of any such disruption occurring, which, as Goldy notes, should be quite easy to verify if true, given the preponderance of recording devices in attendance at any given public appearance by the AG. So, the issue should be childishly simple to resolve, because IF Goldy did disrupt any of McKenna's press appearances, somebody (multiple somebody's as a matter of fact) should have a recording of it, and all they need to do is produce it.

Otherwise, as they say on the Interwebs: "Pictures, or it didn't happen"...
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM
GlamB0t 29
@26 Ah, well annoyance aside, hating on every woman on the planet is probably not the best response to disagreeing with a comment.

@28 has the correct response I think.
Posted by GlamB0t on July 3, 2012 at 10:08 PM
30
@29

I think @3 was more succinct. :)
Posted by seatackled on July 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM
31
Didn't you say you were leaving soon, Goldy? C'mon, you promised us!
Posted by He can dish it out, but not take it on July 3, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 32
The hilarious thing is I've met and spoken to Rob McKenna many times over the years as a member of the 47th District as places as intimate as a Round Table pizza and and Oddfellows Hall. These were completely open, come as you are venues. (Yeah, you have to pay for your own pizza.)

While I support Goldy's right to access, I am wondering if his inability to do something which seems to be quite easy for the average citizen has more to do with behavior than he is letting on.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on July 3, 2012 at 10:43 PM
33
McKenna is a monster.
Posted by soggydan on July 3, 2012 at 11:02 PM
34
I don't know, Goldy. If you are explaining, you're losing. Love your stuff, but this story line is weakening the main point. Which is?
Posted by Why are there cars? on July 3, 2012 at 11:16 PM
35
Good for you for answering the insinuations and not letting them get away with damaging your career.
Posted by floater on July 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM
JensR 36
@32 which is what? The very point of journalism is to counter balance those in political and economic power - to create accountability by reporting everything. To be an obnoxious asshole basicly. Not to be well behaved, forgiving and forgetful.

If he didnt scream, kick over tables or puked on the snacks-table - banning him is "banning a journalist". It doesn't matter whether you like McKenna or not, or what your political leanings are - a world where journalists are banned for their criticism of someone in political power is a very dangerous one.

Personally I think Goldy could well keep pushing this button for a while. Questions like "So why are you banning journalists who doesn't agree with you" while wearing "I love McKenna more than babies" Tshirt would be brilliant.

Its a spectacle but its a relevant spectacle.
Posted by JensR http://ohyran.se on July 4, 2012 at 1:53 AM
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@36

Erm, journalism can't counter power, it can only wield it, or question its direction. And the particular sort of journalism that The Stranger practices isn't questioning power at all, it's advocating the transfer to or consolidation of power within a particular ideological tendency.

The fact that we generally regard that ideological tendency as correct should not blind us to the intent, methodology, and effect of those attempting to advance it.

Anyone who tells you that a group or individual is acting entirely outside a given power structure is trying to hide something. And that goes double for anyone who pretends to be forcefully, vehemently, stridently, or even violently opposed to "all" power structures (by which they inevitably mean only those power structures in which they do not participate).
Posted by robotslave on July 4, 2012 at 2:16 AM
watchout5 38
What I find endlessly more fascinating about this is had Rob dealt with you in a different way I probably would have been more annoyed with Goldy, however the situation makes it near impossible for me to feel any sympathy towards McKenna and really I just want to yell at him for being an unreasonable twat. It seems he has made the personal decision to personally bar you from his public events because he doesn't like who you are or what you do and is desperate enough to grasp all the straws to keep you away. People who do that strike a very fine line with me, consider it a pet peeve, if you hold a public event and complain about who is there it's 100% your fault and you deserve the uncomfortable feeling. If you take a job where it's expected that you talk to the public on a daily basis, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO HATE YOU AND WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN YOU QUITTING, you should expect to talk to people you don't like and to have them say things about you that you don't like. I think they called it America or something, free speech or some technical term or something. There are a few places McKenna can go if he has a problem with journalism, America is not one of them. In conclusion this entire thing is silly, but it's only silly because McKenna made it that way. Imagine him answering your questions sarcastically while rolling his eyes, sure you have to be there but no one said (even as a politician) that you'd have to treat Goldy with respect. This bullshit? Acting like you have the power to ban the public from a public event because their press badge wasn't given out by the government? Revolutions have been started for less, this candidate is barely a joke anymore.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on July 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 39
If there is a litigious case then Goldy needs to sue. AND if there is a case attorneys will take this case. If there isn't anything there then nothing will happen and this is nothing but internet bitching.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on July 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM
Canadian Nurse 40
@39: The lawyers are talking.

How do we know that? Because this past letter was sent from the Solicitor General to the Stranger's attorney.

Lawsuits are expensive and reasonable people try to accomplish their goals without taking up space in the public courts (and thereby costing taxpayers money).
Posted by Canadian Nurse on July 4, 2012 at 4:17 AM
41
SLANDER?!

omg, goldy. that is so unfair.....

you poor dear.

lets fix things for you.

first, mr professional journalist, go look up 'slander' and report back to the class, you pathetic ignorant piece of shit moron.

next, let's hire a lawyer.

or shut the fuck up.

If you're going to continue to attempt to sully the AG's reputation with implied accusations of SLANDER, we suggest you put up or shut up.

(btw, shutting up would be nice....)
Posted by goldy. the gift that keeps on giving on July 4, 2012 at 5:24 AM
42
I have been in a couple of press conferences with Goldy at Seattle Schools.

At those conferences, he acted as he described - sat quietly and asked few questions and mostly took notes.

Those of us who are not trained journalists but are allowed in press conferences because the brave new world of journalism allows bloggers in? We know it's better to keep a low profile.

No, I think McKenna is worried about what Goldy will ask. If McKenna is acting like this now, as a candidate, I worry about what he would try to do as governor.
Posted by westello on July 4, 2012 at 7:39 AM
43
Attorney General Rob (Pussy) McKenna is too thin skinned to hold public office.
Posted by wahomeowner on July 4, 2012 at 7:54 AM
Just Jeff 44
McKenna fears the question about why he supports state's rights okn health care, but not legalization of cannabis.
Posted by Just Jeff http://pstonews.wordpress.com on July 4, 2012 at 8:09 AM
Helenka (also a Canuck) 45
Or perhaps McKenna is afraid of what Goldy's growing in his garden. Hey, it makes just as much sense as any other ... uh ... reason.
Posted by Helenka (also a Canuck) on July 4, 2012 at 8:23 AM
46

"To be an obnoxious asshole basically."

But not to Inslee right? That's the difference. Goldy is a party hack.
Posted by Instead Goldy has Inslee's cock in his mouth on July 4, 2012 at 8:23 AM
Goldy 47
@38 Exactly. The funny thing is, the nature of the press conference automatically puts the press at a disadvantage. Much like a talk radio host, it's the person giving the conference who controls the mic. He gets to speak for as long as he wants, pick and choose who to call on, and then play the journalists against each other if one insists on pressing for a followup: "Give someone else a turn," McKenna might say to me scornfully if I'm too persistent. And everybody else wants their turn.

It's why adversarial press conferences rarely yield much new information or insight.

So all McKenna had to do was let me in and knock me down. Then I might be the one looking stupid and arrogant instead of him.
Posted by Goldy on July 4, 2012 at 8:31 AM
48
I just have to say that I find Goldy vs McKenna waaaaaay more interesting than Inslee vs McKenna. Way to make the governor's race interesting.
Posted by lillehammer on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 AM
49
Let me, modestly, offer two suggestions:
1. Use a professional byline, instead of a nickname, if you want to be taken seriously by more than an ideological claque.
2. Stop whining.
Posted by mr. viking on July 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM
COMTE 50
...says the poster whining behind an anonymous nickname...
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on July 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Goldy 51
@49 I'm not asking Rob McKenna to respect me. I'm just asking that he respect my constitutional rights.
Posted by Goldy on July 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM
52
Goldy, what is the slanderous statement? can you quote it for us? thanks. You said he's claiming other reporters complained about you, I didn't see that in the lawyer letter, is it somewhere else? the letter to you can't be defamation or slander as it's to you. a warning to you not to disrupt isn't a statement of fact it's more an opinion ("we think you deserve a warning") so it's not defamation either. The only thing you point to that's a statement of fact that could be untrue is when you say the AG is claiming others complained about you. Can you quote that statement ? Thanks.
Posted by false publication of fact on July 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM
53
47

now goldy.

don't sell yourself short
(despite what your ex tells everyone about your wee willy...)

Stupidity and Arrogance are not Zero Sum matters.

It is not an either/or proposition where
Stupidity
and Arrogance
(and Assholeness)
and the AG and yourself are concerned.

it is manifestly obvious
to all
that there are plenteous heaps and gobs
of Obnoxious Stupidity and Arrogance to go around.

so,
you AND the AG come out looking stupid and arrogant.

Selah!
Posted by your mommy must be so proud on July 4, 2012 at 11:10 AM
54
If Mckenna doesn't respect Goldsteins constitutional rights how can I expect him to respect and honor mine or anyone elses?

These modern (neo) conservative republicans are out of line! One only needs to listen to a few minutes of Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage and their ilk to realize what little respect they have for any law or right.

The republicans only plan is "monkey wrench" in the gears or church.
Posted by charliebickle on July 4, 2012 at 11:16 AM
55
Please stop wasting column inches with defensive responses to silly accusations. State the facts and fucking move on- you are a reporter- your struggle with McKenna is not as important to readers as it is to your ego.
Posted by James1234567890 on July 5, 2012 at 8:09 AM

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