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Monday, July 21, 2014

We Just Lived Through the Hottest June on Record

Posted by on Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Not only was it the hottest June on record, the month before that was the hottest May on record. Things are just hot in general.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Monday that last month's average global temperature was 61.2 degrees, which is 1.3 degrees higher than the 20th century average. It beat 2010's old record by one-twentieth of a degree.
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And that's only part of it. The world's oceans not only broke a monthly heat record at 62.7 degrees, but it was the hottest the oceans have been on record no matter what the month, Arndt said.

But, hey, remember when it snowed a couple years ago? So much for global warming!

 

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Will in Seattle 1
But it was fricking cold this past July weekend, Mr Bigglesworth!
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 21, 2014 at 3:55 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 2

Toyota betting hydrogen-powered cars will be next Prius

Unlike internal combustion engines which power most vehicles on roads today, a pure hydrogen fuel cell emits no exhaust, only some heat and a trickle of pure water. Fuel cells also boast greater efficiency than the internal combustion process, which expends about two-thirds of the energy in gasoline as heat.


http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/cars/…

@1

For a moment at 6:15am this morning, I had the odd idea of turning on the heat for a bit. I made coffee and warmed myself by the cup instead.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on July 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM · Report this
venomlash 3
@2: Water vapor in large amounts acts as a pretty serious greenhouse gas too, remember. The more pressing issue is that hydrogen is not a fuel supply.
Posted by venomlash on July 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 4
#3

Amount of water released is miniscule. And it often returns to the source fuel for use in the next cycle.

The source of energy in almost all fuel is the hydrogen bonds, but gasoline is not strictly speaking a "fuel" because it comes from petroleum which must be refined and have its octane boosted. With hydrogen. That is why the US and other nations already have developed an industrial hydrogen infrastructure capable of supplying hydrogen for thousands of daily uses in warehouses and factories.

Same thing with most electricity which finds its origins in the burning or breaking of C-H bonds.

It's all hydrogen. We already live in a Hydrogen Economy. We're simply doing away with more of the C and using the H more directly.

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on July 21, 2014 at 4:21 PM · Report this
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So if we use Algores company to trade carbon credits, will it magically make the temps go down?
Posted by I got carbon credits for sale on craigslist on July 21, 2014 at 4:27 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 6
I think this was the nicest June I can remember in Seattle.

Since the US Government is never going to do shit about Climate Change as long as the GOP has any power at all, you should lie back and enjoy it.
Posted by Max Solomon on July 21, 2014 at 4:41 PM · Report this
delirian 7
@3: You do realize that water vapor is one of the exhaust products for traditional hydrocarbon-powered vehicles, right? The hydro part of hydrocarbon needs to go somewhere.

@4: You don't know what you are talking about. You are thinking covalent bonds. Hydrogen bonds are what allow you dissolve sugar in your glass of tea. They aren't what holds a hydrocarbon together.
Posted by delirian on July 21, 2014 at 4:46 PM · Report this
Eastpike 8
You cant point to two months as data to illustrate global warming for the same reason that you can't point to a deeper-than-average snowfall to illustrate that global warming isn't happening.

Water-cooler weather talk is not climate data.

But yeah, it's hot, huh?
Posted by Eastpike on July 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 9
#7

Comparison of Gasoline Combustion and Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Energy Production Water Pollution

Idealize gasoline to be octane: C8H18 . When octane combusts O2 is taken from the air and the following reactions hold:

2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O

and

2C8H18 + 17O2 -> 16CO + 18H2O


http://www.roperld.com/science/GasolineV…

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on July 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM · Report this
delirian 10
@8: Actually, high temps contain a little more data than might be obvious, especially when you reference the last time the record was broken. They constrain all of the previous data. There is always a chance of breaking a high temp with a stable climate. The chance of breaking two values in rapid succession (I'm referring to the 2010 and 2014 values, not the May-June), is much less probable. Additionally, with the length of the data set (over 100 years), the chance to break a record decreases every year. So with the amount of record high temperatures and the lack of record low temperatures, it is clear that the temperature is rising. Other methods can show this with more rigor, but my point is only that record highs aren't simply a random data point when you can reference them rapidly occurring (unlike the random high snowfall record being broken).
Posted by delirian on July 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 11
I think it was a lovely June! What ever caused it, more please!
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on July 21, 2014 at 5:28 PM · Report this
delirian 12
@9: I don't know why you are responding to my post without mentioning covalent bonds. Why are you trying to explain combustion reactions to me? Are you unaware that the net reaction will be the same even if a fuel cell is used because almost all fuel cells use reformed hydrocarbons (and only slightly different if you use the steam cracking method from a hydrocarbon fueled power plant--which would require a novel storage solution to ensure a decent range)?
Posted by delirian on July 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM · Report this
Dr. Z 13
This weekend we drove up to Mt Hood just because we hadn't visited Timberline Lodge in ages. On the way back I noticed how many trees had leaves that were prematurely browning, a sure sign of stress. The vine maples in my garden (a native species) are doing the same, so I'm having to up my watering.On Friday our neighbors had to remove a fine old 120 ft Western Red Cedar; last year's drought weakened it, then the beetle grubs finished it off. It's happening to pine trees all over the PNW. This is serious business.
Posted by Dr. Z on July 21, 2014 at 5:45 PM · Report this
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@2,4,9 I've seen you laude the wonders of hydrogen fuel cells and lament our neglect of this panacea many times on here... However, my understanding is that hydrogen fuel cells are nothing but a storage and delivery system for energy generated by other means... Are you also asserting there is a way hydrogen fuel can be harvested or generated in a benign way with regard to our climate and environmental impact? Because if not, it's merely a handy technology for energy storage and transfer, and switching to renewable generation of energy along with drastically cutting our consumption is now more pressing than ever!
Posted by Upchuck on July 21, 2014 at 8:25 PM · Report this
venomlash 15
@7: I know, I know. I'm just saying that hydrogen cars aren't truly emission-free (as far as greenhouse gases go) even if you ignore the cost of the electricity needed to produce the hydrogen.

@4: NO NO NO WRONG WRONG WRONG
Energy is not liberated in the breaking of molecular bonds! Breaking bonds is an ENDOTHERMIC process, meaning that it requires energy to be spent to make it go! Of course, this means that forming a new bond is an EXOTHERMIC process, meaning that it releases energy.
How do we make this work for us? We break weaker bonds to allow stronger bonds to form and harnessed the net energy released. (This gets into issues of things like enthalpy, entropy, and Gibbs free energy, which I understand better than you because I FUCKING TOOK SOME CHEMISTRY CLASSES IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE.)

As delirian pointed out, hydrogen bonds are a special type of dipole-dipole intermolecular force, but the bonds broken and formed in the chemical reactions involved in combustion are, in fact, covalent intramolecular bonds. You know nothing, John Schmo.

Even by your dubious logic, we're more on an oxygen economy than a hydrogen economy. What all combustion systems have in common (barring the ones used in solid-fuel rockets) is that dioxygen (O2) is the oxidant, while the reductant varies widely. It may interest you to know, by the way, that anthracite (good coal) is almost entirely free of hydrogen.
JBITSMFOTP
Posted by venomlash on July 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM · Report this
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I have pretty much given up. Global Warming yes, but there's fuck all I can do to stop it.

The earth'll get on just fine after it closes us out in the next 100 or so years.
Posted by Foonken2 on July 21, 2014 at 9:32 PM · Report this
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Yeah @16 that post demonstrates shit. Please show us that the hydrogen fuel is generated or harvested without additional energy inputs or please kindly STFU with the hydrogen fuel cell drumbeat. It's just a fancy fucking battery...
Posted by Upchuck on July 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 19
@17, that's my thought. At this point the only responsible thing any of us can do is stop having kids. No ethical person can seriously consider bringing in a child into the living inferno (literally an inferno) we are going to leave them. And a small number of people forgoing owning cars and living in smaller homes isn't going to do shit at this point.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on July 22, 2014 at 8:53 AM · Report this

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